How well did you trust your source? drostanolone is expensive to make and many sources fake the drug.
I am a Defy patient. Have been with them for the last 5 year. I have no interest in Deca for myself but I will ask if my wife can try it. She is post menopausal and has osteoporosis and this is what Deca was made for. It is not a man’s drug yet many take it. If it works for you do it just be ready to deal with the sides.
Without defy’s knowledge, I am currently experimenting with drostanolone added to my TRT. I have HCT issues on high does of T cyp as well as E2 issues. Lipids has not been an issue for me do to my diet. I also believe it is because I am taking such a low dose. I do really well on 100-120mg of T cyp/wk anything more my HCT and E2 go thru the roof. Both causing me grief. For the last 5 months I have been experimenting with different doses of drostanolone. Too much( the recommended dose of 40IU EOD) I have found can be really bad( a major reason for leaving this forum for a time) but in low doses added to TRT I have no bad sides and it is really hard to describe what I am feeling. My pump from the gym lasts for days. Even my wife commented on my physique changes. My orgasms litterly blows the top of my head off. I will be watching my lipids and blood pressure to see if there is any long term use issues.
I wish you luck with your deca experiments with Defy.
Care to comment on the above? What sides would you expect at 100mg/week?
Drostanolone was raw powder from a source that’s a sponsor on another board. Compounded myself. I still have plenty so I could test it. My lipids were in bad shape.
This is going to sound super simple to reduce your lipid issues but trust me it works. I’ve got bloods to prove it.
4000iu high quality fish oil every day, Stop eating or using any Omega 6’s (that is corn oils, etc)
Only use omega 3’s, olive oil.
With Deca all I know is what I have read and none of it sounded good but. But in the back of my mind something was telling me these deca dick guys were meat heads ODing on the shit. Taking more (T, AAS) than required is a normal thing in this hobby. Lots of stupid kids out there.
On a side note,
I already have deca dick without taking Deca. I have ED so bad cialas/livitra does nothing for me. But defy gives me tri-mix so I have no erection issues anymore. That stuff is unreal.
I make it a habit on this forum to never offer advice on any drug I have not actually tried and tested with blood tests myself. So I can’t comment on your 100mg/wk. Everyone responds differently. Only you will know if that is the right amount.
Thanks for your prudent approach, it’s a model all of us should follow!
I do think that the dosages where guys had issues were really high. I’ve seen a fair number of anecdotal responses on other forums where guys run low doses of nandrolone and feel great, so I’m certainly willing to try it. There’s also this article that I’ve found specifically looking at nandrolone in a TRT context.
What I’m especially interested in for myself is that when I’ve tried a little bit of progesterone cream, I sleep noticeably better. So I’m wondering whether the progesterone-receptor affinity of nandrolone may help with some of that without the other issues I had with using the progesterone cream.
Will do. I failed pretty hard on the test prop trial I did for TRT (trough values were leaving me hypogonadal) so I’m going back on a long ester plus the nandrolone. Will prob take a while to settle back in.
To backup my suggestions on fixing your lipids. Here is my 1st bloods with Defy’s and working with their nutritionist and of course my current lipids.
2019
I am very interested in seeing if my low dose T cyp with low dose drostanolone effects my lipids since I already treat high lipids and have been treating it for the last 6 years.
It will probably have an effect on lipids if you’re predisposed towards having a bad lipid profile. How severe said impact will be is the unknown variable… you’re dosage is low, so it’s a wild card that you’ll have to play (against my reccomendation) in order to garner the effect
With all due respect, what’s your recommendation based on in terms of expertise? How many people do you prescribe to? How large is your practice? How many people do you follow who have tried nandrolone at TRT doses? I’m all ears but I also want to know who I’m supposed to be listening to. I appreciate your help as I am confident you are well meaning but I also am not sure how much expertise you have in this domain outside of reading studies and researching online.
I prescribe to millions… my practice is well regarded in the states of California, Maryland, Pensylvania, just fucking with you…
I haven’t prescribed to anyone as I’m not a medical practitioner… then again no one prescribes drostanolone to anyone as it isn’t available pharmaceutically be it in branded or generic formulations…
It’s a well known fact that androgens, particularly non aromatising and c17AA compounds exert a dose dependent deleterious effect on ones lipid profile… whether said effect is significant or sub-clinical is largely dependent on genetics, properties of the compound (anything that significantly activates hepatic lipase will have a far more detrimental effect in terms of tanking HDL… anything that significantly impedes hepatic function/bile flow will fuck up cholesterol management etc), diet and lifestyle
I don’t have to prescribe medication to anyone or be a licensed physician to tell you drostanolone will have an effect on you’re lipid profile comparative to had you not used it. Will the impact on lipids be particularly significant at a low dosage… probably not… but then again there are some who say drostanolone at 100mg/wk (a simple google search can replicate what I’m talking about here) dropped their HDL into the 20s.
If you wish to trial nandrolone and you perceive the risks to outweigh the benefits (honestly, if I was in you’re situation with a doctor offering me nandrolone I’d take it in a heartbeat), then go ahead. There are far more dangerous things out there that you could be taking. Given you’ve got the Deca with a prescription I assume you’ll receive adequte monitering… this is far more than what most of us can say, and such a revelation makes using quite a bit safer
I mention the impact on lipids as such alterations are more detrimental as we get older (more prone to myocardial infarction, atherosclerosis induced blood clots etc) and @hrdlvn is 67 years old (though he looks about 45-50 I assume due to a healthy lifestyle and good genetics)… I’m 18 and I look about 24-26… so god help me in 20-30 years from now
Hi @InCorporeSano I know you and I just met so my word does not hold much merit but I would like to vouch for unreal24278 he and I have been friend on this forum for a couple years. No he is not a doc but I have found him to be an excellent resource for bouncing ideas off of. No we don’t always agree but we still remain great friends. Friends like that are hard to find.
I did forget to mention. For a brief stint (I think between 2-4 weeks) I did use nandrolone in conjunction with TRT (want to say 70mg or so per week)
Whilst such a duration of use was very short lived (used NPP, quit 1.5 wks prior to bloods). I notice no ill effect other than the fact that it took notably longer to ejaculate (with and without exogenous… as in pornography) stimuli
I’ve seen that they offer nutrition services but never asked about it. Is that during your regular appointment, or do you pay extra to talk to a nutritionist?
An argument should stand or fall on it’s own merit, not based on who said it.
In @unreal24278 's case, he is not just wildly stating things. His claims are usually backed up by research, and are generally well thought out. Not always, but most of the time this is true.
