I went from being on your side to remebering how gay highschool is after reading all this. It sounds to me like EVERYONE in that school is soft as fuck. Bust some heads.
O, btw standing up for yourself gets girls wet, that and hot abs.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
But if you’re talking about violence, it suggests that you DO find a gay person making a pass at you threatening. If it’s not a physical threat, what could it be? I’d be willing to bet that it threatens your masculinity, and a violent response (or the threat thereof) is a way to restore it. Of course, if you were secure in your masculinity, you wouldn’t care, would you?
On a related note, it’s funny how often you see politicians and preachers talking about the evils of homosexuality, and then you hear about these same guys sucking dick in a bathroom stall.[/quote]
On another (much more) related note, you are talking to a 14-year old kid in high school. How many kids DON’T make pseudo-macho comments like that at that age (oh, and on the Internet, too, famous for not only making nuts drop faster and further, but double in size, as well)? In case you haven’t noticed, this thread isn’t exactly the paradigm of maturity.
He’ll grow up and mature in time - even without the weak psychoanalysis or the thinly veiled prediction that he’ll grow up polishing knobs at truck stops.
[quote]anonym wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
But if you’re talking about violence, it suggests that you DO find a gay person making a pass at you threatening. If it’s not a physical threat, what could it be? I’d be willing to bet that it threatens your masculinity, and a violent response (or the threat thereof) is a way to restore it. Of course, if you were secure in your masculinity, you wouldn’t care, would you?
On a related note, it’s funny how often you see politicians and preachers talking about the evils of homosexuality, and then you hear about these same guys sucking dick in a bathroom stall.
On another (much more) related note, you are talking to a 14-year old kid in high school. How many kids DON’T make pseudo-macho comments like that at that age (oh, and on the Internet, too, famous for not only making nuts drop faster, but double in size)? In case you haven’t noticed, this thread isn’t exactly the paradigm of maturity.
He’ll grow up and mature in time - even without the weak psychoanalysis or the thinly veiled prediction that he’ll grow up polishing knobs at truck stops.[/quote]
A kid around his age killed another kid for asking him to be his valentine a couple of weeks ago. “Leave him alone, he’s just a kid” doesn’t cut it. It’s much better he give this some thought sooner, rather than later.
And I’m not at all saying he’s gay, just insecure; he’s a just a kid, after all. Most adolescents are probably insecure about their sexuality, but when we start talking about murdering homosexuals, it’s time for someone to encourage some introspection, wouldn’t you say?
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
A kid around his age killed another kid for asking him to be his valentine a couple of weeks ago. “Leave him alone, he’s just a kid” doesn’t cut it. It’s much better he give this some thought sooner, rather than later.
And I’m not at all saying he’s gay, just insecure; he’s a just a kid, after all. Most adolescents are probably insecure about their sexuality, but when we start talking about murdering homosexuals, it’s time for someone to encourage some introspection, wouldn’t you say?[/quote]
While I would agree that it is best to nip certain behavioral issues in the bud, I’ll simply remark that this entire thread, to me, at least, reeks of an insecure kid trying to build himself up and fit in somewhere (he’s been here a few months and is already turning to us for advice on how to handle his life, for God’s sake). Some people post messages oozing with testosterone, and he picks it up and runs with it in whatever direction his adolescent, high school mind thinks is “coolest”.
I, honestly, wouldn’t put too much stock in any of his tough talk, but I get where you’re coming from.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
anonym wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
But if you’re talking about violence, it suggests that you DO find a gay person making a pass at you threatening. If it’s not a physical threat, what could it be? I’d be willing to bet that it threatens your masculinity, and a violent response (or the threat thereof) is a way to restore it. Of course, if you were secure in your masculinity, you wouldn’t care, would you?
On a related note, it’s funny how often you see politicians and preachers talking about the evils of homosexuality, and then you hear about these same guys sucking dick in a bathroom stall.
On another (much more) related note, you are talking to a 14-year old kid in high school. How many kids DON’T make pseudo-macho comments like that at that age (oh, and on the Internet, too, famous for not only making nuts drop faster, but double in size)? In case you haven’t noticed, this thread isn’t exactly the paradigm of maturity.
He’ll grow up and mature in time - even without the weak psychoanalysis or the thinly veiled prediction that he’ll grow up polishing knobs at truck stops.
A kid around his age killed another kid for asking him to be his valentine a couple of weeks ago. “Leave him alone, he’s just a kid” doesn’t cut it. It’s much better he give this some thought sooner, rather than later.
And I’m not at all saying he’s gay, just insecure; he’s a just a kid, after all. Most adolescents are probably insecure about their sexuality, but when we start talking about murdering homosexuals, it’s time for someone to encourage some introspection, wouldn’t you say?[/quote]
Using your rationale, I feel that you are insecure. You were threatened enough by a post on an anonymous internet forum that you felt the need to defend the entire homosexual race (in a thread not even concerning this topic); thus, lacking a display of security. If you were secure, you wouldn’t let this intolerance bother you as you are the almighty tolerant one.
Forget being politically correct here and realize that a kid quoting his dad on the internet got your panties in a bunch. I highly doubt his father meant that in the literal sense…and I doubt he was referring to a tap on the shoulder.
Even if he meant it literally…you don’t even know his father. Not all people criticize others because they feel insecure about something (despite what your mother told you). Personally, I wouldn’t want anyone touching me unless I was acquainted with them or in a setting where such behavior might be expected.
K, just to make things clear, and back on topic, when i was referring to “touching” i meant the package. Hope i have that cleared. And the term “kill” is a used loosely by a lot of people. “imma kill that mothafucka” doesnt mean u’ll literally kill him, just badly injure him.
Yes, if a gay dude comes up to me and starts to fondle my package, i am gonna kick his ass. Im not insecure about my sexuality… Ive had a gay dude come try to grab my package before, and all i could think of at that point was “punch and run!” so i did. I dont hate gay people, and that term was to refer to someone grabbing you inappropriately.
Hope this clears up any confusion. Now, can we get back to the main topic?
I posted in this forum caus i know people here give good advice, and they’ll probably know what to do. I cant tell my parents, and everyone at my school is gonna sabotage me if they know what im planning.
[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:
Using your rationale, I feel that you are insecure. You were threatened enough by a post on an anonymous internet forum that you felt the need to defend the entire homosexual race (in a thread not even concerning this topic); thus, lacking a display of security. If you were secure, you wouldn’t let this intolerance bother you as you are the almighty tolerant one.
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So your argument is that I feel threatened by my own throbbing urge to put “assaulting gay people” in my mouth and pump it until it explodes in order to assert my masculinity? Yeah, maybe.
Or maybe I’m not willing to sit back and listen to this kid whine about the “mean kids at school calling him fat” and how it makes him feel bad, and then “joke” about murdering homosexuals.
This thread is not on this topic? Well, there were three distinct homophobic comments made, each more offensive than the one before, and culminating in talking about murder. Pretty much makes it the topic, as far as I’m concerned.
And since when are homosexuals are race? Do you think that homosexuals are more likely to have biological children of the same orientation? Since homosexual sex doesn’t result in reproduction, I have to ask: do you understand where babies come from?
I don’t care if he’s quoting the pope, it was a hateful thing to say, especially when he’s crying about being called fat. And I don’t care if he meant literally or not. If someone started talking about lynching blacks, but didn’t “mean it literally”, it wouldn’t make it more acceptable, either. If you were gay, how would seeing or hearing someone say something like that make you feel? Given the many incidents of violence against homosexuals, including several well publicized murders, I’m willing to bet that you probably wouldn’t be feeling all that great. Political correctness? How about “being a worthwhile human being.”
[quote]
Even if he meant it literally…you don’t even know his father. Not all people criticize others because they feel insecure about something (despite what your mother told you). Personally, I wouldn’t want anyone touching me unless I was acquainted with them or in a setting where such behavior might be expected.[/quote]
It has been demonstrated that people who express more negative attitudes about homosexuals experience more sexual arousal (measured through degree of erection) when viewing gay porn than people that don’t (Kelly et al., Journal of Psychology and Human Sexuality, vol. 9, no. 2, pp. 53-71, 1997). Based on empirical research, I can predict that his father will get a boner from watching a dude have another dude “visit the chocolate factory”. And it’s fine! If watching guys smoking poles is what floats his boat, than raise the anchor, sailor! It’s the hypocrisy and the harming (or threatening to harm) others that I have a problem with.
It’s not a coincidence: homophobes tend to love cock. “American Beauty” was actually a pretty accurate depiction of this.
just listen to three six mafia - fuck that shit
go to school and hit him
btw i’d probably punch you in the mouth if we ever met just for the simple fact this has got too be the most retarded thread I’ve read in reference too wanting too rule the school
if i ever win the lottery, im going to send you a ticket to australia when you arrive i am going to give you a fly kick to the head and tell you to get the fuck out of my country with this bullshit
Dude, those guys are obviously morons. Most of them don’t weigh more than a petite female pornstar. Normally, I’d advice taking the high road, but what the hell…
Next time one of them gets in your face insulting you, just give them a good solid surprise punch in the rib-cage/stomach, when they’re in the middle of a sentence. They’ll lose their breath for sure, and prolly shut the fuck up in the future as well.
Do not change schools.
I personally do not get picked on at school. I have, however, seen plenty of these situations. The only way your going to accomplish something, is kicking the shit out of them.
That may sound brutal, but Ive seen it happen enough to know that its the only thing that works.
And stick to face/torso shots, anywhere else and your branded a dirty fighter, no kicks either.
[quote]CanadianLM wrote:
I personally do not get picked on at school. I have, however, seen plenty of these situations. The only way your going to accomplish something, is kicking the shit out of them.
And stick to face/torso shots, anywhere else and your branded a dirty fighter, no kicks either.[/quote]
Thats pretty crappy advice to give out to someone thats never actually BEEN in a situation like that. “oh i’ve seen enough” the only thing correct is telling him to beat the shit out of said asshole.
Fight Fair? stop right there. Anything goes in a fight, yes kick him in the balls, do whatever it takes to win because thats all that matters. you better have your head in the right mind set because once the shit hits the fan you better be in it to win.
Fighting “fair” can make the difference of you winning or you being the dude laying on the ground bleeding. who do you want to be?
P.s. get it over with now because this shit will not stop until you actually DO something about it. this shit followed me from in highschool for a year before i did anything about it and after it was all said and done no one messed with me (you might have to fight his friends too but if you take out the leader the beta males probably won’t give you shit) Don’t tell him what you are going to do, let him push/shove you (this constitues an assault) then take care of business. fighting in school isn’t advice, rather go out to a field in the middle of no where and do it, make sure you have plenty of friends, his friends will probably jump you when he starts to lose. If you get on top of him and start to pound him becareful because they might try to kick you in the back of the head.
You Better Win
[quote]jtg987 wrote:
if i ever win the lottery, im going to send you a ticket to australia when you arrive i am going to give you a fly kick to the head and tell you to get the fuck out of my country with this bullshit[/quote]
Thats some good shit man.
I’m picturing an angry aussie dropkicking a fat kid off of the apex of the Sydney opera house while yelling that.
I was bullied few years back, and tho i didn’t kick all their asses, i can tell it helps. There used to be these 4 guys who was always on my ass, tearing me down verbally all the long, as well as doing shit like stealing the tires of my bike, or just taking a knife and ripping them open. They even showed up at my house, after school once, removed the front tire, and fucked it up, i found it later a few houses down the street.
So this one time, at school, one of em was giving me shit. A small little douchebag, about a head below me. So i basically grabbed him by the shirt, and i swung him around with everything i had, which resultet in me throwing him straight into a wall and he went straight to the ground. Didn’t hear much from him after that.
Point being, that in some cases, you can take the high road as much as you want, but when it comes down to it, a good adults size kick in the ass might be your best bet.
(Also, i took a necklace off the other guy, while i pinned him down, then i ripped it apart right in front of him. He later told me that necklace meant the world to him, he also shut the fuck up after that.
Stop trying to sound tough. You are not big and strong just because you joined T-Nation. Even so, don’t let people push you around.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Or maybe I’m not willing to sit back and listen to this kid whine about the “mean kids at school calling him fat” and how it makes him feel bad, and then “joke” about murdering homosexuals. [/quote]
It’s the internet. Don’t take it so seriously. If he kills someone, good for him…if not, good for him. It’s his parents’ responsibility (and his own), not yours.
[quote]
And since when are homosexuals are race? Do you think that homosexuals are more likely to have biological children of the same orientation? Since homosexual sex doesn’t result in reproduction, I have to ask: do you understand where babies come from?[/quote]
You got me there! lolololozzlz hehe. They’re a culture or something, whatever.
[quote]
I don’t care if he’s quoting the pope, it was a hateful thing to say, especially when he’s crying about being called fat. And I don’t care if he meant literally or not. If someone started talking about lynching blacks, but didn’t “mean it literally”, it wouldn’t make it more acceptable, either. If you were gay, how would seeing or hearing someone say something like that make you feel? Given the many incidents of violence against homosexuals, including several well publicized murders, I’m willing to bet that you probably wouldn’t be feeling all that great. Political correctness? How about “being a worthwhile human being.”[/quote]
So what do you make of one of your buddies saying “I’m going to kill you” joking around? Do you take that much offense to it, or do you just think blacks and homosexuals deserve special attention? People get killed everyday.
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It has been demonstrated that people who express more negative attitudes about homosexuals experience more sexual arousal (measured through degree of erection) when viewing gay porn than people that don’t (Kelly et al., Journal of Psychology and Human Sexuality, vol. 9, no. 2, pp. 53-71, 1997). Based on empirical research, I can predict that his father will get a boner from watching a dude have another dude “visit the chocolate factory”. And it’s fine! If watching guys smoking poles is what floats his boat, than raise the anchor, sailor! It’s the hypocrisy and the harming (or threatening to harm) others that I have a problem with. [/quote]
Now, empirical research is great when dealing with machinery producing output, but when it comes to human beings…not so much. You can pull a 95% confidence interval out of your ass, but every person is different (but I’m sure they had five trillion willing participants in that study). Some homophobes will love dick. Some will not. I bet some non-homophobes love dick too.
[quote]
It’s not a coincidence: homophobes tend to love cock. “American Beauty” was actually a pretty accurate depiction of this.[/quote]
You hit that one on the head. Movies are great representations of real life.
This ranting and bullshit and whining about homosexuality and straight guys smoking dong and all the other horse shit needs to end.
This psychoanalysis of political correctness and empirical data of gay boner popping and everything else is stupid and pointless…take it somewhere else.
Pretty much this whole faggoty ass thread is pointless. High school kids bitching about getting picked, more high school kids saying kick their ass…somebody bitching about tossing around the word “fag” as an insult…ruling the school and running shit…gay guys grabbing a guys package blah blah fucking blah…this fucking thread needs to DIE RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.
Ahzaz-your trying to look cool and manly on an internet forum…that is obvious. I seriously doubt a “gay guy” has ever tried to grab your package. I was your age not that long ago and those are the typical horseshit lies kids tell for attention and as an attempt to prove a point. I want to tell you the honest truth without telling you to fight and everything else bro:
A. You are always going to get picked for something by somebody throughout life…its the nature of people. You could get swole and ripped and then people when just try to bring you down about something else…they’d probably start by claiming you use steroids…you need to let insults role off your back.
B. Don’t start fights, people who start fights often get their asses kicked…they often are the ones who feel like they have the most to prove. In my experience, the toughest sons of bitches are the guys nobody messes with anymore. I know you think your a hardass or at least want everyone here to think so…but this is the internet…I promise there is someone in your school, yes, even grade 9, who would kick the ever living dogshit out of you. There’s always someone who can kick the shit out of you. Stand up for yourself, but don’t try to be mister super tough guy all the time, you’ll eventually get embarrassed by someone beating your ass for acting that way.
c. You obviously very insecure about the way you look and everything else…its a part of life…start trying to improve yourself through weightlifting and just growing in life in general. The more you try to kick everyones ass and bitch about being called small or fat or weak or whatever, is the more time you could have spent improving yourself.
D. As someone said, the kids who could kick the shit out of you in school don’t give a fuckless about you. Most bullies aren’t that tough, the toughest guys I’ve known usually aren’t bullies…because they don’t have shit to prove.
E. Fucking relax, hit the gym, stop telling stories and homo nut grabbing and high school clique wars…its stupid and you’ll feel like an idiot for it later.
And last but not least: Them saying your a pussy for working out because you have to work for a physique and all that shit…proves my point earlier…soon as people stop picking on you for one thing…they will make up some horseshit to pick on you about something else…its a part of life…get the fuck over it.
/End Thread…
And as someone said, just cuz you joined T-Nation you aren’t big, strong or tough, step away from the e-thugging and go hit the gym…go get big, strong, and tough…and bet it’ll clear up your issues at school as well.
I dont buy into that “homophobes are gay” theory. I think people dont like gays, not because they are secretly gay, but because gays are different. Neo-Nazies dont hate black people because they are secretly black do they?
Good analogy. Seriously. I don’t believe that dogshit either.
[quote]rander wrote:
I dont buy into that “homophobes are gay” theory. I think people dont like gays, not because they are secretly gay, but because gays are different. Neo-Nazies dont hate black people because they are secretly black do they?[/quote]
Amen brother.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
It has been demonstrated that people who express more negative attitudes about homosexuals experience more sexual arousal (measured through degree of erection) when viewing gay porn than people that don’t (Kelly et al., Journal of Psychology and Human Sexuality, vol. 9, no. 2, pp. 53-71, 1997).[/quote]
I’ve seen the same study, but it raises a question: just how did they go about conducting the study? “Hey, random homophobe, we’d like to attach this digital cock ring to you, show you some gay porn, and see what happens. Feel up to it?”