so I was cooking my eggs this morning…and they are sitting dissolved in my BA:BB on the stove…
I somehow misplaced or lost the damn Cottonseed oil I always put on them.
What oils can be used instead.
PM if I know you and your a vet please!
These eggs where expensive and I hope I didn’t screw over the whole batch!
Thanks guys
DG
I use Wesson, specifically the regular soybean oil Wesson.
I’ve been doing so for 10 years or a little longer and have been recommending it for very many years as well, with 100% success rate.
Grapeseed would work. A lovely flavouring for your eggs.
I also enjoy Wesson Brand soybean oil. Grapeseed oil would also work fine.
sweet thanks guys. I got it sorted out.
Anybody against regular olive oil?
I’ve just heard it can be thick and thats the only probs there.
I have a ton of it…
DG
Olive oil ordinarily (and on purpose) is nowhere near as highly refined and purified as oils such as Wesson are.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Olive oil ordinarily (and on purpose) is nowhere near as highly refined and purified as oils such as Wesson are. [/quote]
I also love wesson,I wonder where I got the idea from.
Do you just heat the wesson and then run it through a whatman/milipore filter? I used sterile oil when I was doing such things and would be scared of cooking oil, but I trust your opinion.
I found this cool pic online of somebody who brewed with Olive Oil.
To my surprise it is much clearer than expected and it draws easily as well…or so I was told.
DG
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
I found this cool pic online of somebody who brewed with Olive Oil.
To my surprise it is much clearer than expected and it draws easily as well…or so I was told.
DG[/quote]
Wesson brand soybean oil is a light oil, it actually draws very nice I use it for lubing up R.C. cars which I use a 25g syringe to get in the springs and such.
and with olive oil I only cook with EVOO which is darker it has more of the olive goodness but it would not be suitable for eggs at all.
if you would use the lighter oil like this guy in the pic there should be no problems at all.
and if you buy USP soybean oil then its no different than filtered wesson
just when you buy an oil from the store read and make sure its one oil eg soy,safflower whatever and not a blend
I find through papers and such athat the blended oils are thicker.
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
Do you just heat the wesson and then run it through a whatman/milipore filter? I used sterile oil when I was doing such things and would be scared of cooking oil, but I trust your opinion.[/quote]
I don’t “bake” oil.
It does filter a touch more easily if prewarmed to a moderate temperature such as 46 C but it’s not necessary to do that. The filtering is done after the product is dissolve, not on the straight oil.
(The 46 C figure is completely arbitrary. I just happen to use it for a couple of reasons that are of no real relevance in this situation.)
BA if used is added after the filtering. However if using a pure powder in the first place it would be a little better to add it beforehand as it will reduce viscosity slightly.
On olive oil: Is there one single pharmaceutical that uses it for injection? I can’t say for a fact there isn’t, but if so I never heard of it.
And why pick olive oil? Because of its reputation for being healthy consumed orally?
Three mL (as an example value) is 1/5th of one tablespoon.
Insignificant with regard to your fat intake profile. Not a remotely substantive reason to choose olive oil for injection.
I remember way back when, people wanting to use flax seed oil for injection. The same considerations apply.
not answering for him, but I think it was the closest thing to grab and use.
I would have grabbed olive oil as well if thats all i had in my shelf.
Oh. Well that would be a better reason.
Even for that though, myself I think it is better to go buy a fresh bottle of oil or one that has only been used once or a couple of times for this purpose only.
A bottle of oil that has been opened and poured from, cap removed and recapped, many times for cooking or other reason is I think not as much to be trusted as a freshly-unsealed bottle or one that has been opened only a couple of times with cleanliness very much on the mind.
any type of cold-pressed, organic oil. I don’t trust processes used to make ‘regular’ consumer-grade oils. Soy seems to be most readily available and thinnest. I no way would I use olive oil - quickly goes rancid and as BR mentioned, health effects from that samll of an amount are negligible.
I assure you pharmaceutical oils used for injection are refined.
This is a case where the more refined, the better. All you actually want is the oil itself, not various other vegetable components along for the ride.
Optical clarity is a legitimate guide to that. Any haziness is most definitely not from the oil itself. If one looks carefully, one will see that many oils for human consumption are at least slighly hazy, and the cold-pressed organic ones tending to be the haziest. And why not? The makers likely feel that the non-oil components are also valuable for oral consumption. Certainly that is true with olive oil, for example.
If one wants to shop for a pharmaceutical oil, Croda is the one that I’ve used, but personally I just don’t see a need, with Wesson being readily available and working just fine, and haven’t continued the practice. I don’t know where one would get it if not in a related line of business, though.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
…All you actually want is the oil itself, not various other vegetable components along for the ride.
Optical clarity is a legitimate guide to that. Any haziness is most definitely not from the oil itself. If one looks carefully, one will see that many oils for human consumption are at least slighly hazy, and the cold-pressed organic ones tending to be the haziest. And why not? The makers likely feel that the non-oil components are also valuable for oral consumption. Certainly that is true with olive oil, for example.
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I never noticed…crystal clear after it goes through filter though, which puts me at a loss as to why I am so adamantly opposed to olive oil.
I believe olive oil is absorbed into the body too fast, and affects the half life of the drug - i also kknow that it is nowhere near as refined as it needs to be.
Grapeseed oil is JUST as accessable and is available not only from local healthfood stores but also supermarkets too.
Gerdy, using EVOO would be a mistake IMO. Your eggs will cool but they would hold stable in the alcohol solution for a day or so in the fridge no problem.
Brook
[quote]testolius wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
…All you actually want is the oil itself, not various other vegetable components along for the ride.
Optical clarity is a legitimate guide to that. Any haziness is most definitely not from the oil itself. If one looks carefully, one will see that many oils for human consumption are at least slighly hazy, and the cold-pressed organic ones tending to be the haziest. And why not? The makers likely feel that the non-oil components are also valuable for oral consumption. Certainly that is true with olive oil, for example.
I never noticed…crystal clear after it goes through filter though, which puts me at a loss as to why I am so adamantly opposed to olive oil.[/quote]
The haziness being removed from the submicron filtration is a good thing. Still one has to wonder if the various non-oil components that are dissolved in the oil – and thus not filtered and not hazy – really ought to be present in an injectable regardless of being good to consume orally (for example, why this might not be good is that something that might be fine when absorbed by the GI tract and widely dispersed conceivably might not be ideal to have sitting in far higher concentration in the muscle) and then second your point of the olive oil being less stable to oxidation has some merit as well. It’s probably not a severe issue, but not an ideal situation.
Or as a non-scientific analysis: Olive oil smells funky, and tastes funky. (One might use a different word, but there’s no question that it has taste and smell that is not from the oil molecules.) Would you want to hold it in your mouth for a vast period of time on end?
Or, if you had to hold some oil in your mouth for a long time, would rather it be an oil that was pretty much absolutely neutral? Considering how long the oil is going to be sitting in your muscle, which do you want it to be, olive oil or a very neutral oil?
That doesn’t prove anything but might be suggestive of why one might be instinctively against the idea.
[quote] Brook wrote:
I believe olive oil is absorbed into the body too fast, and affects the half life of the drug - i also kknow that it is nowhere near as refined as it needs to be.
Grapeseed oil is JUST as accessable and is available not only from local healthfood stores but also supermarkets too.
Gerdy, using EVOO would be a mistake IMO. Your eggs will cool but they would hold stable in the alcohol solution for a day or so in the fridge no problem.
Brook[/quote]
thanks Brook,
the eggs are already cooked and I used just regular Olive Oil not EVOO.
I’m thinking I should have picked up the Wesson…but being that Olive Oil was already used…do any of you see a MAJOR problem with it?
Say you cooked your eggs with olive oil…would you still partake? lol
DG