[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Is there a weak spot? Like a sticking point, or does the weight above max simply descend upon you, and can not be moved through any of the range of motion?
Reason I ask is because there is usualy a sticking point or something, not just a complete failure.
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Usually lose it within an inch or two of my chest. If I can get it halfway I can almost always dig in and lock it out, but I think it’s that way for most raw bench pressers.
[quote]Roland Fisher wrote:
Prof, what you said cannot be argued with, once you max out your nervous system, you’re not getting stronger without adding mass.
With less than a 1.5 x bodyweight, I really doubt he’s maxed his potential though.
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Exactly. That’s what made me start the thread in the first place.
Gdollars37,
i tend to lose it there also
-i’d recommend more shoulderwork (overhead, etc) along with your back and prehab stuff
-of course you want to work on your chest and tris, but i would (and currently am) focus on shoulders for your sticking point
[quote]Professor X wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
superdad4 wrote:
Just to summarize…you want to increase your bench press, but you don’t want to gain bodyweight. Is that correct?
Not exactly. I’d like to gain 5 to 10 pounds, but don’t want to just do a real bulk in an effort to get strength gains along with the weight.
I don’t think a 1.5 x BW bench is that impressive, and that’s what I’m shooting for.
I would like to be mega-rich but I don’t want to have to work or go to school. Clearly there is some way around leaving the bed and actually doing something. Life is just so hard.
I truly don’t understand people who make shit hard for no reason. You may have “cardio issues”, but then it would stand to reason that if you simply can’t gain much more body weight that you shouldn’t expect to get all that much stronger past neural adaptation.
It is that simple and for the life of me I can’t see why everyone in this thread but one other person actually touched on that issue.
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I appreciate the rant, but this isn’t a case of not wanting to work for something. I like bulking, even when it’s a pain to get all the calories fit in in a day. I was happiest with my physique when I was a relatively lean 217 a couple of years ago. Just not what I’m doing now.
And like I said, I’d be happy to put on 5-10 pounds. I just don’t think I need to put on 20 pounds of lean mass to add 30-40 lbs. to my bench. I’m not trying to bench a house here. Once I hit 315+ I’ll be more focused on other goals, like DL, pullups, etc. I’m looking for more advice than just “eat more.”
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
superdad4 wrote:
Just to summarize…you want to increase your bench press, but you don’t want to gain bodyweight. Is that correct?
Not exactly. I’d like to gain 5 to 10 pounds, but don’t want to just do a real bulk in an effort to get strength gains along with the weight.
I don’t think a 1.5 x BW bench is that impressive, and that’s what I’m shooting for.
I would like to be mega-rich but I don’t want to have to work or go to school. Clearly there is some way around leaving the bed and actually doing something. Life is just so hard.
I truly don’t understand people who make shit hard for no reason. You may have “cardio issues”, but then it would stand to reason that if you simply can’t gain much more body weight that you shouldn’t expect to get all that much stronger past neural adaptation.
It is that simple and for the life of me I can’t see why everyone in this thread but one other person actually touched on that issue.
I appreciate the rant, but this isn’t a case of not wanting to work for something. I like bulking, even when it’s a pain to get all the calories fit in in a day. I was happiest with my physique when I was a relatively lean 217 a couple of years ago. Just not what I’m doing now.
And like I said, I’d be happy to put on 5-10 pounds. I just don’t think I need to put on 20 pounds of lean mass to add 30-40 lbs. to my bench. I’m not trying to bench a house here. Once I hit 315+ I’ll be more focused on other goals, like DL, pullups, etc. I’m looking for more advice than just “eat more.”[/quote]
Speed work and reps for dumbbells seem to help me the most off the chest.
I tend to do two or three week blocks where I’ll do speed bench with minis and then db bench where I’ll either try to hit 15 with a certain weight or do sets of 5 until I fail.
ok i dont have any science to back this but it should work…sometimes you just need more reps…
if you get less reps than the prescribed reps than work on getting that rep number next week…
try 245x6 your first week…and if you dont get it you will try the second week but if you do get that… try 255x6 your second week…265x6 3rd week…285 for 5 reps 4th week…this will probaly be 8 weeks instead of 4 but you get that idea…you should be able to bench 315-320 by the end of this…
also i gotta say dont do any real heavy acessory work like lockouts or 5 boards…unless your doing them in sets of high rep ranges like 10 and that 10 has to be easy and not neurologically draining…sometimes people wear themselves out too much on the acessory work
let me know what happens…