Does anyone have any experience / knowledge on longer acting esters for test? I’m talking anything from 2-4 weeks long, not just E. I have a ~1 month period that I will not be able to pin during, and would rather inject a longer ester test than come off for a month.
the blend I’m currenty using has test decanoate. That’s the longest ester I’ve seen for test. A massive bolus shot of that might keep you ticking over I suppose.
Do you blast and cruise? Could you not just PCT during this time?
I’ll be coming off of a 5 month blast, and while PCT’ing is an option, it’d be somewhat tricky due to the fact that I won’t be able to pin at all.
What is the life of Test D?
why would you need to pin during PCT? You could taper down in the weeks leading up, blast some hCG for 10 days or so, then use your clomid/nolva for the month you’re off. That might work, I suppose.
D has a half life of 15 days, so a massive shot of that would keep you good for a month. You’d need to get creative with your AI dosing though
Was under the impression that HCG was an injectable.
A massive shot wouldn’t change the half life; it would just increase the amount injected… probably increasing sides. AI dosing would get tricky though, you’re correct. I’d have enough on hand, but I’d have to be extremely cautious.
YOU DO NOT PIN HCG DURING PCT FOR THE 10000000000th TIME IT IS TO BE USED DURING CYCLE. Hcg is suppressive to you system and when using Hcg your test will stay shut down and you will be essentially wasting your PCT drugs and extending time that you are shut down.
yup, what Reed said. You can just use hCG in the weeks BEFORE your PCT if you haven’t been using it all through your cycle.
Tucker, did you just turn your first ever cycle into a 5 month blast?
No, I turned my first blast into a 5 month blast. It would’ve been a 10 month but I have to take December off.
I’m assuming a Nolva / Clomid PCT won’t cover it after 5 months… or will running 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 for both do the trick?
what was your cycle history pre-blasting? Just curious, is all.
You’re right that a massive dose won’t change the half life, but the bigger dose the longer it’ll be in your system because it’ll go through more half lives. Super simple stuff.
To be honest you are going to need a serious PCT if you’ve been on that long. Beyond my area of expertise really. Might even want to post about it in the TRT section.
This is my first time on gear. I’ve spent a lot of time on GH15 and talking with members there, but I plan on being on for a couple years at least, so there’s no point in just cycling. That’s why I originally posted about B+C’ing.
I’m not going to PCT if I don’t have to; I think your idea of a mega dose of Test D right before I go will do the trick; worst case, if it wears off with 1 week left, I can power through a week of feeling like shit. That isn’t the worst thing in the world.
Running Test E @ 500mg/week + Dbol @ 50mg ED for 4 weeks now, then I’ll be switching over to Test P / Tren A with a possibility of Mast for about 16 weeks before December.
well you’ve farily thrown yourself in to the deep end but if it’s what you want to do then fair play to you man.
Yeah the bolus shot of D should keep you ticking over. It’s not like a week of feeling a little lethargic’ll kill you. Stock up on cialis so the missus doesn’t think you’re playing away from home.
This will be a lot easier than going on for 12 weeks, PCT’ing and being off for 12 weeks, and continuing that path. As long as I play it correctly, which I am.
Good call on that. Any sort of idea on the dosing of that bolus? I’m gonna ballpark a full 1g.
Yeah I can see the appeal. If you want to get up to 250 with abs then B&C is definitely the way to go.
As for the bolus, I’d personally do a gram. Think about it like this (let’s assume a 2 week half life for the sake of ease):
-Bigass shot - blood level of 1g
-2 weeks after - blood level of 500mg
2 weeks after - blood level of 250mg
and that’s your month away done, and you can start on your short esters again. For the sake of sexual function and preserving muscle you could probably get away with shooting less than a gram, but it’s a nice round number and I like nice round numbers.
Sounds like a plan then. Would I have to ramp it up in the month going into that? I’ll be on Test Prop at this point.
I would probably ramp it personally seeing as it’s double the dose you’re running. Make sure you have an AI on hand too
(NOT nolva! ;))
Yea that month going into December is going to get tricky to say the least. And don’t worry haha I have enough AI’s on hand. I’m just curious how to play that out. The I’m going to be between 200mg - 250mg of test p / week at that time, as well as 350mg-500mg of tren a.
Undecanoate is a bit of a longer ester compared to Decanoate. I plotted them both, and found this:
I plotted Decanoate vs Undecanoate, and Undecanoate wins. So then I looked at what I’ll be on (Test P @ 200mg / week) and that puts my bloods at a consistent 20-35mg/day. If I pin 2g of Test Und, my bloods will drop steadily over a 4 week period from 40mg/day to ~15mg/day. Looks like 2g is the right amount.