How bad for you is it to use tren for extended periods of time? Whats the longest anyones been on it hear and did you have any health issues because of it?
Im guessing you are on TRT? In that case I suppose you could use Tren for prolonged periods during your ‘blasts’ assuming the whole year is not a blast 
I suppose if you can tolerate the sides of Tren then Tren E would be your best bet. I have been on it for 13 weeks and although the muscle growth was there, the mental effects were not pleasant at all. Also have you thought about the lactogenic effects? Buying caber could become expensive.
SB
Everyone talks about caber being so expensive but I got 20 weeks worth for like 20 bucks and its pharm grade…
At any rate, the longest I have ran tren was 14 weeks of tren E. My buddy ran 100mg tren A, ED, for 6 months straight. It was a little overkill IMO but health wise he seemed fine.
[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:
Im guessing you are on TRT? In that case I suppose you could use Tren for prolonged periods during your ‘blasts’ assuming the whole year is not a blast
I suppose if you can tolerate the sides of Tren then Tren E would be your best bet. I have been on it for 13 weeks and although the muscle growth was there, the mental effects were not pleasant at all. Also have you thought about the lactogenic effects? Buying caber could become expensive.
SB[/quote]
Surprisingly not, I’ve just tended to be pretty heavy with the gear use since I started. Ive had no problems recovering from deca and tren so far. Obviously its not been pain free coming off but my test levels have always come back online.
I’ve been on low test high tren for about 8 weeks now, and ive pushed the tren up to the gram mark just to see what it was like. I have to say I have had virtually no side effects from the tren. It actually improves my mood, focus and drive amazingly. Ive had no gyno, the odd zit and thats it. And the gains have been unreal. Its just with tren having such a reputation I just want to make sure if i push this cycle out or use it really heavily in the future I’m not going to fuck myself up lol
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
Everyone talks about caber being so expensive but I got 20 weeks worth for like 20 bucks and its pharm grade…
At any rate, the longest I have ran tren was 14 weeks of tren E. My buddy ran 100mg tren A, ED, for 6 months straight. It was a little overkill IMO but health wise he seemed fine. [/quote]
He must have looked like a freak after that run lol
I’m currently on week 10 of Tren E (700mg Tren E, 200mg Test E, 200mg Mast E), no sides(except one), leaning up nicely and making gains on my focus areas (side/rear delts and triceps).
The one side being huge RBC/Hematocrit accumulation. I’m not going to bleed myself a la BBB quite yet as I’m almost due to come off, but I’m noticing huge pigmentation changes when I’m pumped, as naturally I’m quite pale, and mild cardiac arrhythmia, most notably right after intense cardio (sprints, hockey, rugby etc…).
The shortness of breath is also seeming to get worse towards the end of the cycle. For my Rugby games I’m taking some Vap-Salbutamol (standard Asthma meds) and its been pretty effective in helping.
Cheers,
-PTD
man this tren stuff seems like the nectar of the gods. I gotta get me some
[quote]PAINTRAINDave wrote:
The one side being huge RBC/Hematocrit accumulation. I’m not going to bleed myself a la BBB quite yet as I’m almost due to come off, but I’m noticing huge pigmentation changes when I’m pumped, as naturally I’m quite pale
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I hear that. I am pretty pale usually… but I have been a nice tan-ish red for a good while now…
I might have to go give blood soon since I just started another blast so I am sure it will keep going up from here.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:
Im guessing you are on TRT? In that case I suppose you could use Tren for prolonged periods during your ‘blasts’ assuming the whole year is not a blast
I suppose if you can tolerate the sides of Tren then Tren E would be your best bet. I have been on it for 13 weeks and although the muscle growth was there, the mental effects were not pleasant at all. Also have you thought about the lactogenic effects? Buying caber could become expensive.
SB[/quote]
Surprisingly not, I’ve just tended to be pretty heavy with the gear use since I started. Ive had no problems recovering from deca and tren so far. Obviously its not been pain free coming off but my test levels have always come back online.
I’ve been on low test high tren for about 8 weeks now, and ive pushed the tren up to the gram mark just to see what it was like. I have to say I have had virtually no side effects from the tren. It actually improves my mood, focus and drive amazingly. Ive had no gyno, the odd zit and thats it. And the gains have been unreal. Its just with tren having such a reputation I just want to make sure if i push this cycle out or use it really heavily in the future I’m not going to fuck myself up lol[/quote]
Could you outline these unreal gains? How have you changed in terms of weight, bodyfat etc.
Have you noticed alot of hair growth? Libido?
Sorry about all the questions MG.
IMO the prolonged heavy use of any drug will have consequences, some thing as ‘harsh’ as Tren I would be inclined to think it would not be any different.
SB
[quote]PAINTRAINDave wrote:
I’m currently on week 10 of Tren E (700mg Tren E, 200mg Test E, 200mg Mast E), no sides(except one), leaning up nicely and making gains on my focus areas (side/rear delts and triceps).
The one side being huge RBC/Hematocrit accumulation. I’m not going to bleed myself a la BBB quite yet as I’m almost due to come off, but I’m noticing huge pigmentation changes when I’m pumped, as naturally I’m quite pale, and mild cardiac arrhythmia, most notably right after intense cardio (sprints, hockey, rugby etc…).
The shortness of breath is also seeming to get worse towards the end of the cycle. For my Rugby games I’m taking some Vap-Salbutamol (standard Asthma meds) and its been pretty effective in helping.
Cheers,
-PTD
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PTD, have you ever tried high test/lower tren? For that matter can anyone here actually say they tried high test mid-tren and got the Tren sides, then dropped the test lower then Tren and were fine?
Sorry about the slight hijack MG.
SB
[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:
[quote]PAINTRAINDave wrote:
I’m currently on week 10 of Tren E (700mg Tren E, 200mg Test E, 200mg Mast E), no sides(except one), leaning up nicely and making gains on my focus areas (side/rear delts and triceps).
The one side being huge RBC/Hematocrit accumulation. I’m not going to bleed myself a la BBB quite yet as I’m almost due to come off, but I’m noticing huge pigmentation changes when I’m pumped, as naturally I’m quite pale, and mild cardiac arrhythmia, most notably right after intense cardio (sprints, hockey, rugby etc…).
The shortness of breath is also seeming to get worse towards the end of the cycle. For my Rugby games I’m taking some Vap-Salbutamol (standard Asthma meds) and its been pretty effective in helping.
Cheers,
-PTD
i was running 700 mg a week of test p and 350 mg of tren a. Sides i delt with were sweating all the time, (especially at night), insomnia, wanting to kill everyone, and shortness of breath. Flipped the dosage around gradually over 2 week to 700mg of tren and 350mg test and everything went away except the shortness of breath and it actually seemed to get a bit worse but nothing unmanageable.
PTD, have you ever tried high test/lower tren? For that matter can anyone here actually say they tried high test mid-tren and got the Tren sides, then dropped the test lower then Tren and were fine?
Sorry about the slight hijack MG.
[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:
Im guessing you are on TRT? In that case I suppose you could use Tren for prolonged periods during your ‘blasts’ assuming the whole year is not a blast
I suppose if you can tolerate the sides of Tren then Tren E would be your best bet. I have been on it for 13 weeks and although the muscle growth was there, the mental effects were not pleasant at all. Also have you thought about the lactogenic effects? Buying caber could become expensive.
SB[/quote]
Surprisingly not, I’ve just tended to be pretty heavy with the gear use since I started. Ive had no problems recovering from deca and tren so far. Obviously its not been pain free coming off but my test levels have always come back online.
I’ve been on low test high tren for about 8 weeks now, and ive pushed the tren up to the gram mark just to see what it was like. I have to say I have had virtually no side effects from the tren. It actually improves my mood, focus and drive amazingly. Ive had no gyno, the odd zit and thats it. And the gains have been unreal. Its just with tren having such a reputation I just want to make sure if i push this cycle out or use it really heavily in the future I’m not going to fuck myself up lol[/quote]
Could you outline these unreal gains? How have you changed in terms of weight, bodyfat etc.
Have you noticed alot of hair growth? Libido?
Sorry about all the questions MG.
IMO the prolonged heavy use of any drug will have consequences, some thing as ‘harsh’ as Tren I would be inclined to think it would not be any different.
SB[/quote]
I have grown extra body hair, but not that much. My hairline has receded very slightly. neither of those things I care about at all.
My libido has been insane. Literally through the roof. One girl in front of me in a supermarket laughed at me because I was staring right at her like I wanted to fuck her brains out. When I say the gains have been unreal, I mean I have both dropped significant bodyfat, and added about 15 pounds of solid muscle. Lifts have all gone up so far about 20%, and my veins are looking freakin awesome. No gyno, no AI needed and no bloat, its just magic.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
I have grown extra body hair, but not that much. My hairline has receded very slightly. neither of those things I care about at all.
My libido has been insane. Literally through the roof. One girl in front of me in a supermarket laughed at me because I was staring right at her like I wanted to fuck her brains out. When I say the gains have been unreal, I mean I have both dropped significant bodyfat, and added about 15 pounds of solid muscle. Lifts have all gone up so far about 20%, and my veins are looking freakin awesome. No gyno, no AI needed and no bloat, its just magic. [/quote]
I’m on my first week of tren/test. I started with 4 weeks of dbol and test-e and added about 10lbs, and started tren-a and test-p on Monday. So far no sides, but I’m at 50mg tren and 30mg test/ed. Given that I’m having no sides, whatsoever, I’m thinking about doubling the dosage next week and then increasing the test until I start to get sides. Otherwise, I’m going to push the tren to 700mg/week and the test to 750/mg week. I’m going to be on test and tren for 12 weeks. Hoping for solid gains whilst losing substantial body fat.
I’ve tried High Tren / Low Test only for a few weeks and didn’t like it. You guys make me wanna try again.
im on high test and high tren… so far just a little sweating at night… nothing to speak of really… i’ve had worse tren sides for sure.
i pin 120mg tren e ED and 160mg test ED and 100mg EQ ED
im on week 2.5 and already noticing large changes… i’ll be on this for a while i think.