[quote]Professor X wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
do i have to shave my back hair now, or is that allowed?
Back hair is allowed…however, for some strange reason, the women want us to shave the Nether Regions.[/quote]
We want you guys to shave our nether regions you mean? 
Actually, you don’t need to shave yours. Just keep it trimmed is all we really ask.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
ericbyrnesjr wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jehovas fitness i remember you told me a good way to put on mass was through eating more vegetables and in a different thread you were completely against eating fast food at all for bulking purposes. i really wonder why the hell youre in there too.
not gonna lie, i agree with this a lot (the last sentence)
Trust me, if anyone makes a post like that in that forum, I am sure quite a few people will jump on it quickly.
People weren’t just chosen because they are “elite”. There are very few truly extremely built posters on this site…at least not like there used to be. Expecting that forum to only be filled with “vets” is a retarded concept in light of that. [/quote]
thats true, but personally id rather the forum consist of whoever the top vets are and then the top portion of the intermediate guys, maybe like 20 or so. im pulling for quality over quanity. i mean sure, some trial and error is expecting and like i said im really hoping to start seeing more tribunals. maybe enough people need to be kicked so that the influx of new members can be kept under control and people should post pictures or something to get in. id like to post there one day but if im there i want to feel like im in there for a reason and i dont want it to be easy to get in. there is a begginers section and a bodybuilding forum these guys could still post in til theyre ready.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
do i have to shave my back hair now, or is that allowed?
Back hair is allowed…however, for some strange reason, the women want us to shave the Nether Regions.[/quote]
its so they dont get hair caught between their teeth.
it also looks better, and if youre uncircumsized the hairs can get caught in the foreskin so its better to keep em trimmed down.
[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
I know i dont normally post here, and i dont mean to butt in - but something you lot said shocked me.
Are there people here who dont work out? Why? Not that they should be banned, but why would they be here? If i didnt work out i’d be on some onther forum, probably something sexual…
Know what i mean? I am stunned. truly.
Joe[/quote]
Yes, they are here…and yes, they are the major reason the Bodybuilding forum was going downhill fast.
Meanwhile, for some reason, the ones who want to keep a serious tone to this site are being called out like there was no need for that T-Cell. There obviously was a need and the T-Cell has obviously helped this issue.
With so many of the authors against bodybuilding, what did you expect?
The T-Cell is NOT some high school clique. It is simply a bunch of people getting fed up with being told that big muscles were stupid, icky and unwanted.
Christine who are you too?
ive never seen you post in the bodybuildng section but youre in T-cell Alpha?
oh and Joe Joseph, youre a cool dude but you said yourself that youre a newb and you didnt even know why you were invited to the Cell.
nothing personal i just care about the integrity, if no one else does.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
With so many of the authors against bodybuilding, what did you expect?
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Yet they are allowed to post in the T-Cell. Go figure.
[quote]jana wrote:
Professor X wrote:
With so many of the authors against bodybuilding, what did you expect?
Yet they are allowed to post in the T-Cell. Go figure.[/quote]
I think they are there in the hopes of some debate.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
rainjack wrote:
rsg wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
The whole concept is flawed — an exclusive club atmosphere on a freedom-loving individualistic site.
Make the people who want to be in these cells pay an annual membership dues, if they want to have their private little fiefdoms. People who buy supps and support this site are voted out or never invited because they piss off the likes of crybaby Professor X? That’s just plain fucking crazy!
See, you’re taking it personally, and you’ve got it all wrong.
First of all, people who actually talk about training and try contribute are the ones who SHOULD be in the T-Cell. This should have no influence on whether you buy from the site or not.
Secondly, if you feel the concept is “flawed”, why are you so damn worried about getting voted out?
It’s a simple idea:
You start with a few people who train and have some experience/knowledge to share.
They invite like-minded people with similar goals/ideas, and then share and discuss various related topics.
Once small tweaks are sorted out in the system, you will then filter out anyone who this doesn’t apply to and you have achieved what was intended - a troll-free, ontopic forum where people can learn from eachother.
WHAT A FLAWED CONCEPT!
The flaw is that some needle dicked little coward put HH up for tribunal without the balls to admit to it until the end. The flaw is that some of the people who were invited turned around and invited people who need to be summarily kicked the fuck out of the T-Cell - like the little coward in question.
I can’t even remember the little weasel’s name - but he had no business being in the T-Cell to begin with.
HH did nothing to warrant being kicked out of the T-Cell. Like him or hate him - HH did nothing in the T-Cell to warrant being kicked out.
I think that if HH had defended himself, he would not have been kicked out.
Hey, Genius…Headhunter stated several times that he did not want to be a part of that forum WHILE that vote was taking place. Why then is he making such a show of it now that his wish was granted other than to stir shit?
Not wanting to be in a club doesn’t equal exclusion from the club. If someone was simply not interested, do you then hold votes to ban them from your club?
That is irrational in concept.
To paraphrase you, “I don’t see why everyone doesn’t see that?”
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What are you talking about? You yourself said that you didn’t want to be a part of the T-Cell and that your post in your tribunal thread would be your only one there. That’s pretty much like quitting.
If you showed up at work tomorrow and said “I don’t believe in this place. It’s values are completely contrary to mine and I think the business is a stupid idea.” Do you really think that they would be cool with you just hanging around? Do you think they would keep you around as an employee?
You basically said “You can’t fire me, I QUIT!” with your comment in that thread.
On the other hand, had you actually tried to defend yourself (as RJ mentioned) I think that many (myself included) would not have voted to reject you. You hung yourself by your own words HH.
Now, I also agree that your tribunal was unwarranted, as you had done nothing warranting it in that forum (to my knowledge you hadn’t even posted there at all). And I agree that the person who tribunaled you did so for the wrong reasons and there are quite a few in the Cell who aren’t too happy with him at the moment for having abused the system.
The system wasn’t meant to be used for personal disagreements/dislike of other posters. I honestly don’t agree with a lot of what I have read from you, but I would not try to tribunal you over that. It was meant to be used if someone is really causing a problem, or clearly has goals contrary to the purpose of that forum.
Now, X also has a good point too in that I’ve personally never seen you post in any of the weight training forums, so why on earth someone would invite you to the T-Cell in the first place is beyond me. But that alone IMO doesn’t mean you should have been tribunaled.
Talking about bodybuilding in the Bodybuilding forum? That’s just dumb. Now if you’ll excuse me I’m off to go post about Metallica’s Kill 'em All changed the face of Heavy Metal in the Country and Western forum I post on.
What? It’s all music! What’s the damned difference? Ugh. Fuck it. I’m off to do some combat pyramids.
The tribunals were a total shit-show, but I agree that the BB forums were getting trashed with bullshit comments. But cmon, you have a member whose claim to fame is showing her tits and shes calling people out on how long theyve been here? Trust me, I’ll cosign titties all day long, but stop pretending like the dialogue that is going on in there is any better than the occasional good thread that can pop up anywhere on these forums. Now theres just another forum on an already huge list of them. No disrespect to any of the members of the T cell alpha, so spare the hater comments and other predictable bullshit.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
because they piss off the likes of crybaby Professor X? That’s just plain fucking crazy!
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u are crying right now
[quote]djwhizkid wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
because they piss off the likes of crybaby Professor X? That’s just plain fucking crazy!
u are crying right now
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trolls feel no pain
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Now, X also has a good point too in that I’ve personally never seen you post in any of the weight training forums, so why on earth someone would invite you to the T-Cell in the first place is beyond me. But that alone IMO doesn’t mean you should have been tribunaled.[/quote]
i think its a good enough reason not to invite someone in the first place therefore its good enough reason to kick out someone who managed their way in.
if you spend all your time in the Poly/World forum verus the BBing forum its generally a good indication youre more a bookworm than a bodybuilder.
If we break up into teams, I’ll shave in your number.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Now, X also has a good point too in that I’ve personally never seen you post in any of the weight training forums, so why on earth someone would invite you to the T-Cell in the first place is beyond me. But that alone IMO doesn’t mean you should have been tribunaled.[/quote]
The person who nominated me is an old timer here, who knows that I lift. He also knows that I am a recreational lifter to supplement my martial art. I am not an expert or trainer, so I don’t post. Why would I post unless I was more knowledeable than the others?
For that matter, why does anyone try to learn from those forums at all, when you have honest to God experts who write actual articles for T-Nation? Would you choose to listen to Professor X or John Berardi?
But my main objection to what happened is that I am a member of this site. I support it by my supp purchases. A private club was formed where others can vote me out, because they don’t like my political opinions or what I wrote in a joke forum like Sex and the Male Animal. What gives them the right to exclude me FROM WHAT I’M PAYING FOR?
The answer is …nothing. Prof and some others whined and cried until the owners gave them a pacifier. I say, if they want a private club, they should pay dues. Let them pay their own fucking way, with their own money. If I’m paying, I should have every right to participate…and that’s why I insult everyone of those who think they deserve to have a private exclusive club with my money. They are assholes.
[quote]djwhizkid wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
because they piss off the likes of crybaby Professor X? That’s just plain fucking crazy!
u are crying right now
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You must be one of those who calls the United States the biggest terror threat on earth, because we fight back.
Uh… HH, correct me if I’m wrong on this but…
Biotest sells you supplements.
You pay for the supplements.
After you pay for the supplements, the contract is settled. Nothing else is promised in the contractual agreement between you and Biotest.
Biotest then takes a portion of their retained earnings and runs a marketing campaign to get their name out there. This marketing campaign includes the creation of a web 2.0 bulletin board where people can talk about all the accessories related to consuming Biotest products (including training and sometimes even competitors products) and even hires authors to write articles related to these same subjects, all to encourage their exposure to their market.
Now, what part of that marketing campaign did you pay for? Because it seems to me Biotest paid for it, and Biotest can do whatever they want with it.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The person who nominated me is an old timer here, who knows that I lift. He also knows that I am a recreational lifter to supplement my martial art. I am not an expert or trainer, so I don’t post. Why would I post unless I was more knowledeable than the others?
[/quote]
Well, then perhaps you did have some reason for being in there.
About training? Probably both. About nutrition? Definitely Berardi.
Hey, like I said, you were the one who excluded yourself. I agree that the person who nominated you did it for bogus reasons and you had done nothing to get kicked out (aside from basically asking to be in your tribunal thread). But it was your words which I think ultimately resulted in your dismissal.
Also, I understand what you mean by the support of Biotest comment. But, there needed to be some sort of solution to the problem in the bodybuilding forum, and the owners decided that creating an invite only section (to avoid allowing trolls the ability to wreak havoc) was the best way to go.
Finally, how long had you been a member of the T-Cell? And for that matter, how did Dicky_B even know you were a member? Like I said before, I hadn’t seen any posts by you in that section. If it meant so much to you, why not actually post there? And why say that you wanted to be voted off? And if you weren’t ever going to post there, because you aren’t as experienced as other posters, then what’s the big deal? You can still read the forum, can’t you?
X and others have been on this site supporting Biotest for a loooong time. The vast, vast majority of people in the T-Cell are supporters of Biotest as well. So, they ARE paying their way (for the most part).
And once again, you didn’t participate when you had the chance. Why not? Seriously, if it means so much to you, why didn’t you post there?
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ericbyrnesjr wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jehovas fitness i remember you told me a good way to put on mass was through eating more vegetables and in a different thread you were completely against eating fast food at all for bulking purposes. i really wonder why the hell youre in there too.
not gonna lie, i agree with this a lot (the last sentence)
Trust me, if anyone makes a post like that in that forum, I am sure quite a few people will jump on it quickly.
People weren’t just chosen because they are “elite”. There are very few truly extremely built posters on this site…at least not like there used to be. Expecting that forum to only be filled with “vets” is a retarded concept in light of that.
thats true, but personally id rather the forum consist of whoever the top vets are and then the top portion of the intermediate guys, maybe like 20 or so. im pulling for quality over quanity. i mean sure, some trial and error is expecting and like i said im really hoping to start seeing more tribunals. maybe enough people need to be kicked so that the influx of new members can be kept under control and people should post pictures or something to get in. id like to post there one day but if im there i want to feel like im in there for a reason and i dont want it to be easy to get in. there is a begginers section and a bodybuilding forum these guys could still post in til theyre ready. [/quote]
I would like the T-cell members to have at least one photo of themselves in their profile. A lot of the posts on training are based on personal experience and with some less than accomplished physiques in the cell it would be nice to know which posters have the most credibility.