Lofteren's Strongman Log

[quote]Ass Banana wrote:

[quote]Loftearmen wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
Z Press
115x8
135x5 These were hard![/quote]
First time doing those?[/quote]

Yes. They were very strange. The weight felt really light in my hands but pressing it was incredibly tough. I’ll have to stick with them for a while.[/quote]
First time I tried them I fell backwards haha[/quote]

They were humbling the first time I did them. And then the first time I tried to increase the weight a bit, I also fell backwards. That’s when I realized how good they could be for just making sure you have a good, balanced, pressing groove.

Normally I don’t even mess with variations, but there were enough pro strongman logs I read who used these that I figured I should give them a try. They’re actually my main pressing movement for my current training cycle right now.

They also don’t seem to irritate my shoulder tendons or elbow as much, for whatever reason. Only issue I had is that I managed to pull a rib or two out of alignment on one set, once.

Maybe they’re easier on your shoulders because you can’t lift as much weight with them as you can on your feet or sitting?

Squats
135x5
225x5 (feeling a little stiff)
315x5 (not sure how today is gonna go)
425x8
425x8

Hip flexors are still really tight. I’m going to start standing when I see patients at work because I think it’s from sitting on a stool 8 hours a day. Squats went okay with just a little hip flexor pain but I didn’t want to push them any further than this. I’ll deload my squat for a week and see how that goes plus a lot of foam rolling and using an electric massager.

I use a car buffer for my self massage, what kind of massager thing do you use out of curiosity.

[quote]Ass Banana wrote:
I use a car buffer for my self massage, what kind of massager thing do you use out of curiosity.[/quote]

I use a back massager thing from Wal Mart. It works pretty well.

I didn’t train last night because I felt like shit. That’s the 4th workout in a row that I felt like crap so I took it pretty easy today and did a full-body training session. I’ll get back at it Monday.

Log Incline Press…superset…Log Lap and Clean
140x10-140x10
230x5-230x5
270x5-270x5

Sandbag Over 50" Bar
250x1
250x1
250x1
250x1
250x1

Bench Press
135x10
225x5
275x5
315x5
245x8
245x8
245x8

Incline Log Press
270x5
270x5
270x5

Barbell Row
225x10
275x10
315x5
315x5
315x5

Front Squat
45x5
135x5
225x5

Prowler
3 platesx100ft
3 platesx100ft
4 platesx100ft
4 platesx100ft
5 platesx100ft
5 platesx100ft

I couldn’t squat because my hip flexor was still killing me so I just pushed the prowler. If this doesn’t get better soon I’ll be competing as a bench only in December.

Narrow grip incline bench
45x40
135x10
185x8
225x8
245x8
265x8

Clean and push press (clean once )
135x5
225x3
225x3
225x3

Db row…ss…shrug (w/ straps)
100x12-315x12
120x12-315x12
140x8-315x12

Db curl…ss…band tri pushdowns
50x10-x15
50x8-x15

DB Row/Shrug Superset - YouTube Massive pump. I’m down to the 10th hole in my lifting belt. When I started cutting I had to use the 3rd hole! I weighed 309 this morning which puts me at 50lbs lost. I only have about 30 left before I have a decent bodyfat percentage.

Dang! You’ve lost a lot of waist size.

[quote]csulli wrote:
Dang! You’ve lost a lot of waist size.[/quote]
Yea, I’m pretty excited about it too. I have never cut this successfully before. I really have my diet and training dialed in right now.

Deadlift
225X3
315x1
405x1
495x1
545x1
585x1
615x1
635x1
655x1

Snatch Grip Deadlift
405x5
455x5

Barbell Row
315x5
315x5

I was feeling sick so I didn’t want to do a lot of reps. 655x1 was a pretty good deadlift considering that I haven’t pulled for less than 5 reps recently, I was sick, my new bar is super hard to pull with and my weight loss. I started having stomach cramps after my heavy pull though so I didn’t do a lot of accessory work.

Bench Press
45x60
135x10
225x5
275x5
315x5
325x5
EMOM LOOOOONG Pause Bench Press
265x10x1

Incline Log Press…ss…Barbell Row
280x5-225x10
280x5-225x10
280x5-225x10

I had to cut it a little short because I had to help my wife with her biology homework (which I fucking loath, by the way). It was a good training session though. I don’t really feel sick any more, just a little tired, but that should pass soon enough. I felt pretty strong, every rep of this training session was super easy. The hardest part was getting the log on my chest on the incline bench haha. I forgot to take a video of my bench so I took a video of my assistance work instead.

Squat
135x5 ouch
225x5 OUCH
315x5 SUNOVABICH DAMNIT MOTHERFUCKER MY FUCKING LEG ISNT GETTING ANY BETTER!!!

Prowler Push
225x100ft
225x100ft

Sled Drag
225x100ft
225x100ft

My hip flexors even hurt doing the prowler. I’m going to take a couple months off squatting to nurse this problem. I’ll compete as a push/pull this december.

Here’s a really open-ended question: How did you get so strong?

I saw earlier in your log that you started training about 4 years ago.

What was your background before you started? How strong were you to begin with? What mistakes would you have avoided along the way? Have you always trained basically the same way you do now?

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Here’s a really open-ended question: How did you get so strong?

I saw earlier in your log that you started training about 4 years ago.

What was your background before you started? How strong were you to begin with? What mistakes would you have avoided along the way? Have you always trained basically the same way you do now?[/quote]

I could seriously write pages and pages on the question you just asked me. I’ll try to keep this short, sweet and to the point.

Athletic background:
Hockey, Football, Wrestling, Kickboxing, Shotokan/Kyokushin Karate, Judo/Jiu Jitsu

How strong was I to begin with:
The first time I touched a barbell was at the beginning of 9th grade football. I was 14 years old and around 5’6’’ 215lbs. I squatted to 295 to a depth that was acceptable in football (this was probably a couple inches high), I benched 155lbs with a pause and I deadlifted 305lbs with a hitch. It was funny how they were super strict about bench press but you could squat and deadlift like shit and that was fine with them hahaha. Football coaches… Anyway, I was always pretty strong and usually a good deal bigger than other people.

Major mistakes:
Getting fat, cutting too fast, not doing enough conditioning work, not doing enough mobility work, not doing enough myofascial release work, trying to use pre-written programs, BEING AFRAID OF FAILING WITH HEAVY WEIGHTS!!!

What I do now:
Split:
Monday- Bench Press Day
Tuesday- Squat Day
Friday- OHP/Assistance Day
Saturday-Deadlift Day

How I set up my training sessions:
I use the same basic approach for all training days. I’ll use bench press day as an example:

Bench Press
(Week I) Work up to 5rm
(Week II) Work up to 3rm
(Week III)Work up to 2rm
The most important thing here is to try and beat your calculated 1rm each time you bench. For example, if I benched 315x5 on week I, my calculated 1rm would be 367lbs, so on week II I would have to bench 335x3 for a calculated 1rm of 368 to beat it. I always take the smallest PR possible, even if it’s just 1lb. Sometimes hitting this PR is super easy, sometimes it’s not.

I will follow up this heavy set with some drop sets for volume. I will do either 3x5-8@80% of the top weight I used that day (that would be 80% of my 5rm on week I, 80% of my 3rm on week 2 and 80% of my 2rm on week 3)or; if I am close to a meet, I will do 10 paused singles @ 80% and I’ll do 1 every minute on the minute.

Accessory Work:
I really just do what is difficult for me at the moment. This way I’m always addressing my weak points. I also like to do a lot of supersets for accessory work. For a bench day this could be dumbbell presses superset with dumbbell rows, barbell rows superset with narrow grip bench presses, etc… There is no specific weight or rep schedule here. I just do it until I’m torn up. If I still have some time I’ll do some bodybuilding movements like curls, tri pushdowns or delt raises after this.

Conditioning Work:
Sometimes I will incorporate this into my accessory work by doing strongman moving events instead of static strength lifts. I also rely on a lot of kickboxing training (mostly heavy bag work) for this. I’ll do HIIT on the heavy bag or sometimes I’ll swing a sledge hammer at a big tire for time. This has helped me lose a lot of fat in the past year. I’m looking leaner and leaner all the time and have dropped 50lbs without losing ANY strength. I actually improved my lifts somewhat during this time period.

Diet:
I don’t eat a lot for being as big as I am. I’m just genetically a big dude. I eat around 3,000cals a day and I don’t really focus on the macros. I eat plenty of protein though. When I add it up it is usually between 250-300grams per day.

Misc:

I also don’t like to do a lot of accessory work for my deadlift. I’ve found that doing some kettlebell swings and weighted ab wheel roll outs after pulling is completely sufficient for increasing my pull.

I will cycle my main lifts if I’m far out from a powerlifting meet. (i.e. block pulls, deficit deadlift, deadlift w/ chains, sumo deadlift) When I do this, I’ll change lifts every 3 weeks

I only deload if I feel like I need to

If I am close to a powerlifting meet, I will replace my ohp day with something closer to bench press (bench w/ chains, incline bench, narrow grip bench, etc…)

That’s basically it. It all seemed so simple until I wrote it down lol. If you’re interested in a template just send me a PM with your current training maxes and a couple videos of your lifts so I can identify your weak spots. Thanks for the interest in my training!

Deadlift so hard…he knocks cameras out.

Nice work man.

Cutting isnt easy for genetically predispositioned heavy guys. Tho not near as big as you… haveing zero metabolism I can relate.

Great Q there Lorez, appreciate the response above too Loftearmen!

Thanks for the answers. I’ll probably have more detailed questions after I give it a reread.

Great question LoRez!! It was something I have always wanted to ask him as well so you beat me to the punch. Great write up on your program Loftearmen. The idea of beating your estimated / calculated 1 rep max each week with your rep schemes is a REALLY good idea. So when can we expect the 5/3/2 E-BOOK BY LOFTEARMEN?!? Move over Wendler!

Haha, I’m sure he’d pop me for plagiarism. 5/3/1 is a sound method of training but it never worked very well for me. A couple tweeks later, and it proved to be exactly what I needed though. It’s really just a modified block schedule which people have been using for years and years.

Now I’ve had some time to give it a couple reads. I see a lot of familiar elements, but I like the way you’ve put them together. And thank you for the comprehensive response; quite a bit more detail than I expected.

So you stick with basically a 3 week cycle? Are there any “deloads” other than just waving the intensity?

How did you settle on the “drop to 80% of the daily max and do 3x5-8”?

Did you ever spend some time with higher frequency approaches? It looks to me as if you did 5/3/1 for a bit, kept the basic layout and then modified from there. How long have you been using your current approach?