AM
Bench Press…ss…DB Row
135x25-60’sx25
225x10-80’sx10
275x5-100’sx5
315x5-120’sx5
325x5-140’sx5
DB OHP…ss…Pull Ups
60’sx10-x3
70’sx8-x3
80’sx5-x3
90’sx5-x3
I felt pretty weak this while lifting; I am assuming because it was so early in the morning. Still, I got all my reps in.
PM
Wrestling/Judo Class
Class went well. I got hit in the balls which was not fun at all.
Your training is looking good. Like the SS above. Have you talked to the coach about a timeline for your progression to a fight. I know its early but I am curious. Would really like to see you fight , but more importantly fight well.
[quote]Dude623 wrote:
Your training is looking good. Like the SS above. Have you talked to the coach about a timeline for your progression to a fight. I know its early but I am curious. Would really like to see you fight , but more importantly fight well.[/quote]
Thanks man. My coach says I should do a grappling tournament in about 2 months. I am guessing around a year and a half before I have an mma or muay thai match. I have a lot of work to do on my defensive maneuvers before I am ready for either of those, especially MT. My judo and wrestling are going really well but if I fight someone standing I am always outmatched with speed and technique so the only way I have any success is to brawl with them and use my size and strength advantage to shove them around a lot. It works pretty well but coach doesn’t like me fighting that way.
That sounds like a good plan. When you randori have you learned a palm hip check yet, I always thought that worked well for bigger guys.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
AM
Bench Press…ss…DB Row
135x25-60’sx25
225x10-80’sx10
275x5-100’sx5
315x5-120’sx5
325x5-140’sx5
DB OHP…ss…Pull Ups
60’sx10-x3
70’sx8-x3
80’sx5-x3
90’sx5-x3
I felt pretty weak this while lifting; I am assuming because it was so early in the morning. Still, I got all my reps in.
PM
Wrestling/Judo Class
Class went well. I got hit in the balls which was not fun at all. [/quote]
I don’t know how you manage to lift in the morning. I can’t get my shit together to work hard in the AM. That’s why I do so little in my morning work … Some shadowboxing and bodyweight shit and I’m wiped. [/quote]
It looks like that’s the only time I’ll have to do it though, Mon, Wed and Sat mornings are the only AM training sessions I have available and coach is very adamant about me being in class every day of the week. He really pushes conditioning and skills development which is good but he wants me there from 7:00-10:00 7 days a week. Not a bad deal for $100 a month! but he’s wiping me out lol.
[quote]Dude623 wrote:
That sounds like a good plan. When you randori have you learned a palm hip check yet, I always thought that worked well for bigger guys.[/quote]
I have not learned that technique yet, what is it?
[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
AM
Bench Press…ss…DB Row
135x25-60’sx25
225x10-80’sx10
275x5-100’sx5
315x5-120’sx5
325x5-140’sx5
DB OHP…ss…Pull Ups
60’sx10-x3
70’sx8-x3
80’sx5-x3
90’sx5-x3
I felt pretty weak this while lifting; I am assuming because it was so early in the morning. Still, I got all my reps in.
PM
Wrestling/Judo Class
Class went well. I got hit in the balls which was not fun at all. [/quote]
I don’t know how you manage to lift in the morning. I can’t get my shit together to work hard in the AM. That’s why I do so little in my morning work … Some shadowboxing and bodyweight shit and I’m wiped. [/quote]
It looks like that’s the only time I’ll have to do it though, Mon, Wed and Sat mornings are the only AM training sessions I have available and coach is very adamant about me being in class every day of the week. He really pushes conditioning and skills development which is good but he wants me there from 7:00-10:00 7 days a week. Not a bad deal for $100 a month! but he’s wiping me out lol.[/quote]
Don’t let yourself get burnt out. You’re obviously pretty seasoned, so I’m probably teaching you to suck eggs, but it is possible to over train with combat sports. This is particularly true of enthusiastic beginners who start sparring regularly. The mental fatigue as an adult novice is much greater, and with all of life’s other stresses can really creep up on you if you’re not careful. I’ve seen this happen a number of times before with guys who had real promise and enthusiasm, particularly the ones who didn’t want to say no to sparring. Just something to be conscious of, like anything, you need to be conscious of building up to that mental and physical workload over an extended period.
[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
AM
Bench Press…ss…DB Row
135x25-60’sx25
225x10-80’sx10
275x5-100’sx5
315x5-120’sx5
325x5-140’sx5
DB OHP…ss…Pull Ups
60’sx10-x3
70’sx8-x3
80’sx5-x3
90’sx5-x3
I felt pretty weak this while lifting; I am assuming because it was so early in the morning. Still, I got all my reps in.
PM
Wrestling/Judo Class
Class went well. I got hit in the balls which was not fun at all. [/quote]
I don’t know how you manage to lift in the morning. I can’t get my shit together to work hard in the AM. That’s why I do so little in my morning work … Some shadowboxing and bodyweight shit and I’m wiped. [/quote]
It looks like that’s the only time I’ll have to do it though, Mon, Wed and Sat mornings are the only AM training sessions I have available and coach is very adamant about me being in class every day of the week. He really pushes conditioning and skills development which is good but he wants me there from 7:00-10:00 7 days a week. Not a bad deal for $100 a month! but he’s wiping me out lol.[/quote]
Don’t let yourself get burnt out. You’re obviously pretty seasoned, so I’m probably teaching you to suck eggs, but it is possible to over train with combat sports. This is particularly true of enthusiastic beginners who start sparring regularly. The mental fatigue as an adult novice is much greater, and with all of life’s other stresses can really creep up on you if you’re not careful. I’ve seen this happen a number of times before with guys who had real promise and enthusiasm, particularly the ones who didn’t want to say no to sparring. Just something to be conscious of, like anything, you need to be conscious of building up to that mental and physical workload over an extended period. [/quote]
I can definitely feel myself getting a little burnt out sometimes. It doesn’t feel like I am burnt out mentally though; physically I feel very tired during the day, especially on days after a hard sparring session. I try to only spar once a week and roll once or twice a week. The rest of the time I spend doing drills and conditioning stuff which might be why I don’t feel worn out mentally. I will become more acclimated to the volume if I keep pushing myself into class though. I will take days off as needed if I need a break though.
Side note: I hit 307lbs today. I feel like I’m losing a little bit of muscle mass though which I’m not happy about 
I’ll probably take the night off tonight since my wife is coming home with the kids. I’ll still get some exercise in, just not at the studio.
The hip check is not used in judo but is allowed in freestyle judo and can be great if used properly. During randori if your staying neutral you will feel the tug when they are about or have started to instigate a hip throw, do nothing more than extend your arm down , fingers down and strike the incoming hip with your palm like a Jab, and immediately assume your previous grip. This should work well for you given your upper body strength. The first time you do it some guys cant figure out how your shutting them down so effortlessly. Then they will start to plan on you doing that and come up with a reverse for you, but as long as it is not a prolonged release of your grip (quick jab and done), and you stay neutral you will be good to go. Hope this helps, let me know.
This would also make a good combo for MMA , after the hip check why let them get away, follow with a strike to the liver or change levels and elbow strike them to the face. Just thinking out loud.
[quote]Dude623 wrote:
This would also make a good combo for MMA , after the hip check why let them get away, follow with a strike to the liver or change levels and elbow strike them to the face. Just thinking out loud.[/quote]
That’s a good idea. I have been trying to find better ways to change levels on people. My main problem is that when I start hitting people they just run away from me lol. I know that sounds funny but I can’t catch them because they are usually way smaller and faster than me. When I get people on the cage they are in big trouble though and I get a good chance to work on my striking and level changing. During sparring last night I focused on getting my opponent on the cage and then throwing jab, right cross, left body hook, left head hook, right cross.
If someone is evading you there are several things you can do to track them down. Start to work on steering the opponent with your jab. It is the most effective strike (when not telegraphed) to use for steering, because of the speed and accuracy. If someone is trying to avoid you use it in conjunction with footwork and the all important timing. Also a lunging and exaggerated (telegraphed) hooks are great at freezing some opponents don’t waste energy on making it mechanically sound (just flashy). Both of these punches when used this way may not be intended to actually make contact, or perhaps only slightly. I apologize if I am being to long winded.
[quote]Dude623 wrote:
If someone is evading you there are several things you can do to track them down. Start to work on steering the opponent with your jab. It is the most effective strike (when not telegraphed) to use for steering, because of the speed and accuracy. If someone is trying to avoid you use it in conjunction with footwork and the all important timing. Also a lunging and exaggerated (telegraphed) hooks are great at freezing some opponents don’t waste energy on making it mechanically sound (just flashy). Both of these punches when used this way may not be intended to actually make contact, or perhaps only slightly. I apologize if I am being to long winded.[/quote]
You can be as long winded as you want. I appreciate the advice.
Jiu Jitsu Class today:
Worked on different ways of passing the guard and transitioning to side mount/knee on belly and arm bars from knee on belly. I rolled with a big guy who was super over zealous and aggressive. Coach kept telling me not to use my strength but this guy was going at 100% and was pretty big and strong so he was really hard to handle. He left bruises everywhere he grabbed me.
One Arm DB Presses
60’x8
70’sx5
80’sx5
90’sx5
Barbell Overhead Press
135x5
185x5
225x3
Pull Ups
x5
x5
x5
Cable Row
Full stack x10
Drop set: started with full stack, probably 30 reps total
Rear Delt Raises
25’sx10
35’sx10
40’sx10
DB Curls
50’sx10
55’sx10
60’sx8
Dips
x8
x8
x8
Open Matt
Warmed up 15 min. Rolled hard for about 30 minutes. Drilled armbars from a failed triangle choke for 15 min.
Deadlift
225x3
315x3
405x3
495x3
585x3
Barbell Row
225x10
275x5
Shin conditioning:
Thai kicks on the heavy bag x 50
I hurt my knee a little while rolling. Nit a big deal but I had to cut my bag work short because of it.
Shin conditioning, set 1 of 4: Shin conditioning, set 1 of 4 - YouTube
Tonight:
I banged my knee up so I’m not going to do anything on it tonight. It doesn’t hurt to use my knee, it just hurts to put pressure on it so I’ll stay at home, lift and do punching drills instead of going to Jiu Jitsu. I also am going to move over to a standard, 3 day lifting split. I’ll probably wind up lifting in the mornings on Monday and Wednesday and then after Jiu Jitsu on Saturday or Sunday. Either way, I’ll do a bench day, deadlift day and a squat day. I’m doing this because I’m losing a lot of muscle mass which I don’t like at all. I’ll keep my lifting sessions short with a heavy strength movement in the beginning and then some light, higher volume accessory work to maintain mass.
Bench Press:
135x25
225x10
275x5
315x3
350x3
Incline DB Press:
80’sx10
90’sx10
100’sx10
DB Skull Crushers/Lateral Raises
50’sx10/50’sx10
50’sx10/50’sx10
50’sx10/50’sx10
Hindu Push Ups
x100 total (as many sets as it takes to get 100)
Punching Drills (Jab, Jab/ Jab, Jab, Cross/ Jab, Jab, Cross, Hook/ Jab, Jab, Cross, Hook, Uppercut)
2 min
2 min
2 min
4x4’s (4 punches, 4 right kicks, 4 left switch kicks, 4 knee strikes)
2 min
2 min
2 min
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
That’s a good idea. I have been trying to find better ways to change levels on people. My main problem is that when I start hitting people they just run away from me lol. I know that sounds funny but I can’t catch them because they are usually way smaller and faster than me. When I get people on the cage they are in big trouble though and I get a good chance to work on my striking and level changing. During sparring last night I focused on getting my opponent on the cage and then throwing jab, right cross, left body hook, left head hook, right cross. [/quote]
You might be pressing them too hard, and they recognize too quickly that they can’t handle your power and need to move.
When you’re fishing, you don’t just jump into the water with a bat and start aiming for the fish - no, you throw a little tiny line out with some bait on it, and you wait. You feel them hit the line, hit the line, hit the line, and so you jerk it a little to keep it moving, and then they hit it again, and then BANG they grab it. And that’s when you reel them in.
Same shit with boxing. Don’t close on the opponent right away, or drive forward and try to corner them, and remember that if you jab, their inclination will be to mirror you and jab back. So jab.
Jab.
They throw one back. Let it hit your headgear.
Double jab.
They’ll throw one back. Maybe two. Now you’ve got their range down.
Now jab, and the second they’re about to jab back, drop down and jab to the stomach.
Now jab.
Jab.
Jab.
Wait for their return - drop down, jab stomach, 2 to the head.
Get back on the jab.
If you can’t corner someone, you’ve got to outbox them. If you want to outbox them, you have to seize the initiative and keep them thinking and reacting, not initializing the action themselves.
Honestly, a little head shaking or faking that they’ve hurt you with their jab or 2 might help here … because you need to bait them. And if they think that they’re going to get gored the second they near the bull, they’re not going to approach him at all …
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I’d like to be able to play that game better. I think that people are afraid to come near me simply because I’m a lot bigger than they are so I never really have a chance to try to outbox them at all. I don’t throw terribly hard strikes while sparring because I’d like to have sparring partners in the future so they don’t really need to be afraid of me.
My coach says that if they want to run away from me just let them and slowly follow them around the ring. If it were a real match I would win by decision. I’m not going to be able to catch or kickbox with someone who won’t engage with me, especially if I’m having a hard time getting close to them because they’re smaller since they will have a big speed advantage on me.
I talked to my dad about it. He said that since most fighters have technique and speed on their side that I’ll have to be wary of learning from them since they will tell me how to win with technique and speed. He suggested I find some super heavy weight fighters that have been successful and try to learn from them; see how they handle smaller, more agile opponents. The only problem is finding a super heavy weight fighter to learn from. The only thing he could really tell me that was useful was that bigger opponents are always harder to handle when they are the aggressor so he said that I should set the stage by first, developing outstanding conditioning since I will be chasing everyone and then finding their range, finding which combinations I could use against them while staying safely inside or outside their range and then just going in for the kill.
It would also be good if I could find some big, strong guys to spar with. The only guys at my gym that weigh as much as me are just fat so I can’t really spar with them, I honestly might as well just shadow box and hit a bag, because they are even slower than I am and just stand there and get hit.
Edit: It kind of sounded like I was disregarding what you said. I’m not at all, I’m just not sure how I’m going to go about trying to implement boxing skills so that I can learn them since I have a hard time getting near people.
I think what he meant about the small guys teaching me is that they’re going to teach me techniques that work well for guys who are small and quick but that might not work well for a guy who wasn’t. We were talking about fighting while standing and grappling btw, he was a wrestler for a long time as well. My size seems to change my game up more so when I’m on the ground than it does when I’m standing.
Thanks for all your input Irish.