I once had to wait 40 minutes for the squat rack once because this 150lb kid was doing 115lb squats at a rate I thought was well below the realm of possibility. I am not exaggertaing when I say it took him 15-20 seconds to complete a rep, then he would take a 5 minute break. I’ve never seen anyone do a rep of any excercise half as slow as this kid did squats. So I, go about my business and finish 4 different exercises. He finally got off the rack after about 6 sets of 8 reps (40 minutes later).
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There used to be a code of conduct in the gym. If this were 1985, even though I was personally too young at the time, it would be common place for a local bodybuilding competitor to be allowed to work out at a gym for free. Hell, just seeing someone at that level training at the gym was likely to bring in even more clientele just from the motivation.
This level of respect is now completely gone and we do not really seem to be better off for it.
I was training chest at a gym that I ONLY go to in order to train chest because it is the only gym I have found in my area at all with the Hammer Strength laying flat press that I like to use. I also usually have no problem either working in with someone or simply asking how many sets someone has left. This usually leads to the person either letting me work in or quickly moving on with their workout especially if they are much weaker and really don’t have many set routine they are working from. The truth is, most will just get up when I ask because rarely anymore do I run into people who are really working hard when I ask in the first place.
However, this time, after finishing 4 sets of a previous exercise, I notice the guy I saw using the machine I came there for when I walked in is still on it…so I wait about 5 min doing calf raises after laying my things near his area (gym-ese for “I need to use this piece of equipment also”).
The guy is still on the machine doing the same “leg raise/flat press” with only one single 25lbs plate on each side, no strain on his face or in his muscles as his legs fly up in the air whenever he pushes the weight up…SLOWLY.
He may have weighed 130lbs at maybe 5’6" if that and was clearly just going through the motions.
I then asked, after waiting past 5min, “How many sets do you have left?”
His response with attitude, “I don’t know. I wasn’t really counting…maybe 15 more minutes”.
I assumed his “15 more minutes” was either not to be taken seriously or he was simply being an asshole who enjoyed making someone much bigger wait on the machine.
10 minutes passed and I was now getting pissed because he had now stripped the weight to only ONE SINGLE 10LBS PLATE ON EACH SIDE, my muscles and joints were cooling down and he had now been on the machine a total of 15 whole minutes past the time I initially needed to use the equipment…which was enough time for me to finish my first exercise, waste time waiting and then finish 3 sets on the incline press.
But I kept waiting…because clearly the argument is that he pays dues as well.
20 full minutes after I had initially asked if I could work in, the guy is still on the machine.
I then say, “DUDE, I need to use the machine and you’ve been on that one for nearly half an hour. Either get the fuck up or I’m going to get management”.
He gets up.
Why the fuck do we have to put up with this shit lately?
If you are in a public gym and you stay on a machine for over 15minutss, you had better either be near pro level in terms of strength and size denoting a true NEED to use it that long, or you need to get the fuck up and let someone who actually plans on seeing results use it.
Why the hell have gyms turned into play time for grown adults so they can try to piss off people actually there to work?[/quote]
proof that creatine has roidz
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There used to be a code of conduct in the gym. If this were 1985, even though I was personally too young at the time, it would be common place for a local bodybuilding competitor to be allowed to work out at a gym for free. Hell, just seeing someone at that level training at the gym was likely to bring in even more clientele just from the motivation.
This level of respect is now completely gone and we do not really seem to be better off for it.
I was training chest at a gym that I ONLY go to in order to train chest because it is the only gym I have found in my area at all with the Hammer Strength laying flat press that I like to use. I also usually have no problem either working in with someone or simply asking how many sets someone has left. This usually leads to the person either letting me work in or quickly moving on with their workout especially if they are much weaker and really don’t have many set routine they are working from. The truth is, most will just get up when I ask because rarely anymore do I run into people who are really working hard when I ask in the first place.
However, this time, after finishing 4 sets of a previous exercise, I notice the guy I saw using the machine I came there for when I walked in is still on it…so I wait about 5 min doing calf raises after laying my things near his area (gym-ese for “I need to use this piece of equipment also”).
The guy is still on the machine doing the same “leg raise/flat press” with only one single 25lbs plate on each side, no strain on his face or in his muscles as his legs fly up in the air whenever he pushes the weight up…SLOWLY.
He may have weighed 130lbs at maybe 5’6" if that and was clearly just going through the motions.
I then asked, after waiting past 5min, “How many sets do you have left?”
His response with attitude, “I don’t know. I wasn’t really counting…maybe 15 more minutes”.
I assumed his “15 more minutes” was either not to be taken seriously or he was simply being an asshole who enjoyed making someone much bigger wait on the machine.
10 minutes passed and I was now getting pissed because he had now stripped the weight to only ONE SINGLE 10LBS PLATE ON EACH SIDE, my muscles and joints were cooling down and he had now been on the machine a total of 15 whole minutes past the time I initially needed to use the equipment…which was enough time for me to finish my first exercise, waste time waiting and then finish 3 sets on the incline press.
But I kept waiting…because clearly the argument is that he pays dues as well.
20 full minutes after I had initially asked if I could work in, the guy is still on the machine.
I then say, “DUDE, I need to use the machine and you’ve been on that one for nearly half an hour. Either get the fuck up or I’m going to get management”.
He gets up.
Why the fuck do we have to put up with this shit lately?
If you are in a public gym and you stay on a machine for over 15minutss, you had better either be near pro level in terms of strength and size denoting a true NEED to use it that long, or you need to get the fuck up and let someone who actually plans on seeing results use it.
Why the hell have gyms turned into play time for grown adults so they can try to piss off people actually there to work?[/quote]
I originally posted in the other thread about Dickheads or something, however, in this situation, I can agree with you. The asshole has no business in a gym, and I can feel your frustration.
Yeah, I’m usually a dick in this department. If someone is obviously fucking around and doing a pointless dumbass exercise/ weight, I tell them to fucking hurry it up or move it.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I think what’s most sad is that there isn’t any kind of comradery at the gym. Everybody is paranoid and annoyed with each other.[/quote]
I don’t know, there are two or three guys I see on the regular, and we have become pretty friendly in the process. We are all making progress though.
There are a handful of douches giving me dirty looks every time I see them. 2 fat fucks and a skinny twink to be precise.
What really sucks is when you click the add friend button on someone, and they DON’T click it back! Now that hurts my feelings ;)[/quote]
I’ll click back, buddy!
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
that sucks. Should have went to management sooner. total disrespect for gym etiquette there.[/quote]
One of the reasons I didn’t is because all eyes are on me. That may be the primary reason I ONLY do chest there…because I have never gone to that gym and seen anyone even near my size so I get the pleasure of everyone watching how I react in every situation. That is the only reason the guy lasted that long…because people are dumb enough to consider him the victim simply because he is smaller and there was a decent sized audience that day.
Haha I found a cool technique for dealing with this today, doing weighted dips.
Dip station was occupied by 3 skinny guys, none of whom are even sweating, doing half-assed sets of 4 or 5 bodyweight dips. Approach them:
Me: “How much longer you guys using this?”
One of them: “Well, I have 2 more sets, he has 2, and he has 1…you can work in.”
Me: “Ok.”
I get dip belt, plates I’m using for dips, bench to put weights on/stand on
I do my first warmup set
One of them does his next set.
I put the bench in position, throw a 45 on the dip belt, do my next warmup set
They leave the area.
H4M is victorious.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Haha I found a cool technique for dealing with this today, doing weighted dips.
Dip station was occupied by 3 skinny guys, none of whom are even sweating, doing half-assed sets of 4 or 5 bodyweight dips. Approach them:
Me: “How much longer you guys using this?”
One of them: “Well, I have 2 more sets, he has 2, and he has 1…you can work in.”
Me: “Ok.”
I get dip belt, plates I’m using for dips, bench to put weights on/stand on
I do my first warmup set
One of them does his next set.
I put the bench in position, throw a 45 on the dip belt, do my next warmup set
They leave the area.
H4M is victorious. [/quote]
Yeah, but that only works when dealing with logical people and when you are NOT lifting 10+ 45lbs plates more than the guy you are “working in” with.
Usually, when someone asks how many sets you have left, if you are in the same strength or size range, the action is to let the guy work in.
That clearly does not work when one guy is 130lbs and the other is more than twice that.
But yeah, I have experienced other people simply leaving when they see what I am lifting.
That wouldn’t work here…and if it did, it would mean I now get three times the workout by loading and unloading plates after each set.
Joy.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Haha I found a cool technique for dealing with this today, doing weighted dips.
Dip station was occupied by 3 skinny guys, none of whom are even sweating, doing half-assed sets of 4 or 5 bodyweight dips. Approach them:
Me: “How much longer you guys using this?”
One of them: “Well, I have 2 more sets, he has 2, and he has 1…you can work in.”
Me: “Ok.”
I get dip belt, plates I’m using for dips, bench to put weights on/stand on
I do my first warmup set
One of them does his next set.
I put the bench in position, throw a 45 on the dip belt, do my next warmup set
They leave the area.
H4M is victorious. [/quote]
win… lol
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Yeah, but that only works when dealing with logical people[/quote]
Oops forgot this part, my bad. lol.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That clearly does not work when one guy is 130lbs and the other is more than twice that.[/quote]
That’s just natural selection at work. Hundreds of thousands of years ago they’d have been a snack for a Sabre-toothed tiger. Now that they’ve died out, we have to thin the herd by relying on people being dumb enough to get under a weight heavy enough to disperse their head faster than a hammer to a cantaloupe.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That clearly does not work when one guy is 130lbs and the other is more than twice that.[/quote]
That’s just natural selection at work. Hundreds of thousands of years ago they’d have been a snack for a Sabre-toothed tiger. Now that they’ve died out, we have to thin the herd by relying on people being dumb enough to get under a weight heavy enough to disperse their head faster than a hammer to a cantaloupe.[/quote]
Until this post, I’d never thought death by barbell could be made to sound so poetic.
To the OP: it sounds like little-man syndrome. You have to be familiar with that by now…
guys think you are insulting them just by lifting in the same room at the same time of day as them. Like you’re trying to rub it in their face that you’re bigger/stronger, even though you’re totally minding your own business.
Their first instinct is to be insecure. Next instinct is to hate you. Finally they will do little things out of spite / jealousy that are obviously unwarranted.
It’s definitely a cause for pity.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That clearly does not work when one guy is 130lbs and the other is more than twice that.[/quote]
That’s just natural selection at work. Hundreds of thousands of years ago they’d have been a snack for a Sabre-toothed tiger. Now that they’ve died out, we have to thin the herd by relying on people being dumb enough to get under a weight heavy enough to disperse their head faster than a hammer to a cantaloupe.[/quote]
Until this post, I’d never thought death by barbell could be made to sound so poetic. [/quote]
LOL. It would be an unplanned but honorable end to an uneventful life.
People like to pull shit for the sake of pulling shit man. Fact of life. You acted 100% the right way IMO. Save your energy for the battles worth fighting.
“A wise man told me don’t argue with fools Cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who”
Jay-Z
should have blasted him with piss
Only Professor X could start a thread like this and have it go past a page without one of these…
A couple of Saturdays ago I was ready to squat but there was guy doing 315 (and later 335) front squat for set after set.
Since he was stronger than me I gladly did leg press and hack machine that day. Good on that guy.
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Most people at my gym have you know … Respect. And NO skinny douchebad over-tan kids ever never work in morning, god bless mornings.
But yeah, that sucks and the Kirk’s way seems really a good idea.
[quote]Nards wrote:
A couple of Saturdays ago I was ready to squat but there was guy doing 315 (and later 335) front squat for set after set.
Since he was stronger than me I gladly did leg press and hack machine that day. Good on that guy.[/quote]
Sorry for getting in your way man, my bad.
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