[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Who are you to determine my limits?[/quote]
No one here determines the physical or mental limitations of someone else. Mother Nature does. [/quote]
Now you are doing what X so often does. You are so focussed on trying to prove you are right that a) you skip the most important part of a post and b) you misunderstand the part you did focus on.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Don’t even talk about limits. What possible good can come from discussing that topic?
Keep doing that till the day you die.
Who are you to determine my limits?[/quote]
No one is trying to keep someone from reaching their potential. What some people are saying is “do not bulk to unreasonable fat ass obese weights with the belief you will be bigger and leaner than any natural bodybuilder when you diet down. Being more calculated in your approach may serve you better.”
There is plenty of good that can come from the topic of dicussing limits imo, especially for nattys. Some live in the real world, others don’t.
Brick has developed a pretty damn good physique with all the “limits” he placed on himself.
Its okay one day a natty Ronnie Coleman will be born.
Marquas, who here is telling you what your limits are? i missed that. cannot i or anyone else discuss the possible benefit of setting realistic goals without upsetting the truly awesome and limitless members here that will keep progressing to the point of superhuman abilities just because they will it to be so?
if i believed that i was really that awesome, that i could just will myself to be whatever i want to be, i would be the happiest person in the world, and would not get so defensive when the peasants and mere mortals who have “limited” themselves speak their mind about their mundane experiences.
i would s\just skip along with my 2% body-fat on ,my 6’4" chiseled 350lb frame, winning mixed martial arts contest, banging super models with my 14inch dick, while i made more money than god whilst managing a multinational corporation, and in my part time rescuing handicapped children from burning buildings.
oh waitaminute, i forgot, this is the internet, most people here already are that awesome anyhow.
We’re all subject to the same physiological and social mechanisms that will one day cause us to reach our limit. I can’t understand why some are so sensitive to the fact that they aren’t a special little snowflake who can fly beyond everybody else on a rainbow of neverending progress.
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
We’re all subject to the same physiological and social mechanisms that will one day cause us to reach our limit. I can’t understand why some are so sensitive to the fact that they aren’t a special little snowflake who can fly beyond everybody else on a rainbow of neverending progress. [/quote]
yep, but said much better than i did.
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
We’re all subject to the same physiological and social mechanisms that will one day cause us to reach our limit. I can’t understand why some are so sensitive to the fact that they aren’t a special little snowflake who can fly beyond everybody else on a rainbow of neverending progress. [/quote]
Spot on.
Maiden: Thanks for the compliment! Like I said, I’m a hater. LOL!
heavythrower: It’s total genetic strangeness. My mom used to have big quads with no training, just taking walks. 
From GK Chesterton, one of the best writers ever. Some of this applies to this conversation, I believe.
“There has appeared in our time a particular class of books and articles which I sincerely and solemnly think may be called the silliest ever known among men. They are much more wild than the wildest romances of chivalry and much more dull than the dullest religious tract. Moreover, the romances of chivalry were at least about chivalry; the religious tracts are about religion. But these things are about nothing; they are about what is called Success. On every bookstall, in every magazine, you may find works telling people how to succeed. They are books showing men how to succeed in everything; they are written by men who cannot even succeed in writing books. To begin with, of course, there is no such thing as Success. Or, if you like to put it so, there is nothing that is not successful. That a thing is successful merely means that it is; a millionaire is successful in being a millionaire and a donkey in being a donkey. Any live man has succeeded in living; any dead man may have succeeded in committing suicide. But, passing over the bad logic and bad philosophy in the phrase, we may take it, as these writers do, in the ordinary sense of success in obtaining money or worldly position. These writers profess to tell the ordinary man how he may succeed in his trade or speculation?how, if he is a builder, he may succeed as a builder; how, if he is a stockbroker, he may succeed as a stockbroker. They profess to show him how, if he is a grocer, he may become a sporting yachtsman; how, if he is a tenth-rate journalist, he may become a peer; and how, if he is a German Jew, he may become an Anglo-Saxon. This is a definite and business-like proposal, and I really think that the people who buy these books (if any people do buy them) have a moral, if not a legal, right to ask for their money back. Nobody would dare to publish a book about electricity which literally told one nothing about electricity; no one would dare to publish an article on botany which showed that the writer did not know which end of a plant grew in the earth. Yet our modern world is full of books about Success and successful people which literally contain no kind of idea, and scarcely any kind of verbal sense.”
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i would s\just skip along with my 2% body-fat on ,my 6’4" chiseled 350lb frame, winning mixed martial arts contest, banging super models with my 14inch dick, while i made more money than god whilst managing a multinational corporation, and in my part time rescuing handicapped children from burning buildings.[/quote]
So you’d be like Darkninja?
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
We’re all subject to the same physiological and social mechanisms that will one day cause us to reach our limit. I can’t understand why some are so sensitive to the fact that they aren’t a special little snowflake who can fly beyond everybody else on a rainbow of neverending progress. [/quote]
Spot on.[/quote]
I’m all for realism, but does anyone think this guy would have held off an army of germans if he’d accepted that realistically he was outnumbered and should accept his fate?
No-one ever achieved the impossible without first believing they could.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
We’re all subject to the same physiological and social mechanisms that will one day cause us to reach our limit. I can’t understand why some are so sensitive to the fact that they aren’t a special little snowflake who can fly beyond everybody else on a rainbow of neverending progress. [/quote]
Spot on.[/quote]
I’m all for realism, but does anyone think this guy would have held off an army of germans if he’d accepted that realistically he was outnumbered and should accept his fate?
No-one ever achieved the impossible without first believing they could.
[/quote]
What? No one achieved the impossible?
You are right they didn’t cause by definition it’s not possible…
You just deflated your own point by pointing out that Cain’s success was UNEXPECTED and UNREALISTIC but not impossible.
It’s like its extremely unlikely I will be a Mr O competitor in my lifetime, but its not impossible.
Good on you bringing history into a discussion though cause thats awesome!
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
We’re all subject to the same physiological and social mechanisms that will one day cause us to reach our limit. I can’t understand why some are so sensitive to the fact that they aren’t a special little snowflake who can fly beyond everybody else on a rainbow of neverending progress. [/quote]
Agree with the first part. But I don’t think that the issue is whether or not these limits exist or apply to us but rather why fixate on them? Or even talk about them really?
I am not a BBer, or a PLer, I am just in this game (fitness, lifting etc) for the fun of it and the health benefits so I don’t think I really have a dog in this “limit” race anyways.
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
We’re all subject to the same physiological and social mechanisms that will one day cause us to reach our limit. I can’t understand why some are so sensitive to the fact that they aren’t a special little snowflake who can fly beyond everybody else on a rainbow of neverending progress. [/quote]
Spot on.[/quote]
I’m all for realism, but does anyone think this guy would have held off an army of germans if he’d accepted that realistically he was outnumbered and should accept his fate?
No-one ever achieved the impossible without first believing they could.
[/quote]
What? No one achieved the impossible?
You are right they didn’t cause by definition it’s not possible…
You just deflated your own point by pointing out that Cain’s success was UNEXPECTED and UNREALISTIC but not impossible.
It’s like its extremely unlikely I will be a Mr O competitor in my lifetime, but its not impossible.
Good on you bringing history into a discussion though cause thats awesome!
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Its funny you bring that up because I did think about qualifying it but I didn’t think anyone would be that awkward. Yes if you’re being pedantic then by definition the impossible cannot happen, since only what can happen does happen. However, since that is merely a weakness in the definition, the real question is what is considered impossible? Virtually all of the inventions and discoveries that we now take for granted on a daily basis were at some point considered impossible. The point is that if that was accepted as the absolute truth by all then none of those discoveries/achievements would have been made.
And I never said his situation was unrealistic. I think he faced IMPOSSIBLE odds. What’s even more amazing is he managed to shave at the end.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
We’re all subject to the same physiological and social mechanisms that will one day cause us to reach our limit. I can’t understand why some are so sensitive to the fact that they aren’t a special little snowflake who can fly beyond everybody else on a rainbow of neverending progress. [/quote]
Spot on.[/quote]
I’m all for realism, but does anyone think this guy would have held off an army of germans if he’d accepted that realistically he was outnumbered and should accept his fate?
No-one ever achieved the impossible without first believing they could.
[/quote]
What? No one achieved the impossible?
You are right they didn’t cause by definition it’s not possible…
You just deflated your own point by pointing out that Cain’s success was UNEXPECTED and UNREALISTIC but not impossible.
It’s like its extremely unlikely I will be a Mr O competitor in my lifetime, but its not impossible.
Good on you bringing history into a discussion though cause thats awesome!
[/quote]
Its funny you bring that up because I did think about qualifying it but I didn’t think anyone would be that awkward. Yes if you’re being pedantic then by definition the impossible cannot happen, since only what can happen does happen. However, since that is merely a weakness in the definition, the real question is what is considered impossible? Virtually all of the inventions and discoveries that we now take for granted on a daily basis were at some point considered impossible. The point is that if that was accepted as the absolute truth by all then none of those discoveries/achievements would have been made.
And I never said his situation was unrealistic. I think he faced IMPOSSIBLE odds. What’s even more amazing is he managed to shave at the end.
[/quote]
No matter how bad odds are, there is still a possibility, hence making it possible yet unlikely and not impossible
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Maiden: Thanks for the compliment! Like I said, I’m a hater. LOL!
heavythrower: It’s total genetic strangeness. My mom used to have big quads with no training, just taking walks.
From GK Chesterton, one of the best writers ever. Some of this applies to this conversation, I believe.
“There has appeared in our time a particular class of books and articles which I sincerely and solemnly think may be called the silliest ever known among men. They are much more wild than the wildest romances of chivalry and much more dull than the dullest religious tract. Moreover, the romances of chivalry were at least about chivalry; the religious tracts are about religion. But these things are about nothing; they are about what is called Success. On every bookstall, in every magazine, you may find works telling people how to succeed. They are books showing men how to succeed in everything; they are written by men who cannot even succeed in writing books. To begin with, of course, there is no such thing as Success. Or, if you like to put it so, there is nothing that is not successful. That a thing is successful merely means that it is; a millionaire is successful in being a millionaire and a donkey in being a donkey. Any live man has succeeded in living; any dead man may have succeeded in committing suicide. But, passing over the bad logic and bad philosophy in the phrase, we may take it, as these writers do, in the ordinary sense of success in obtaining money or worldly position. These writers profess to tell the ordinary man how he may succeed in his trade or speculation?how, if he is a builder, he may succeed as a builder; how, if he is a stockbroker, he may succeed as a stockbroker. They profess to show him how, if he is a grocer, he may become a sporting yachtsman; how, if he is a tenth-rate journalist, he may become a peer; and how, if he is a German Jew, he may become an Anglo-Saxon. This is a definite and business-like proposal, and I really think that the people who buy these books (if any people do buy them) have a moral, if not a legal, right to ask for their money back. Nobody would dare to publish a book about electricity which literally told one nothing about electricity; no one would dare to publish an article on botany which showed that the writer did not know which end of a plant grew in the earth. Yet our modern world is full of books about Success and successful people which literally contain no kind of idea, and scarcely any kind of verbal sense.”[/quote]
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[quote]heavythrower wrote:
Marquas, who here is telling you what your limits are? i missed that. cannot i or anyone else discuss the possible benefit of setting realistic goals without upsetting the truly awesome and limitless members here that will keep progressing to the point of superhuman abilities just because they will it to be so?
if i believed that i was really that awesome, that i could just will myself to be whatever i want to be, i would be the happiest person in the world, and would not get so defensive when the peasants and mere mortals who have “limited” themselves speak their mind about their mundane experiences.
i would s\just skip along with my 2% body-fat on ,my 6’4" chiseled 350lb frame, winning mixed martial arts contest, banging super models with my 14inch dick, while i made more money than god whilst managing a multinational corporation, and in my part time rescuing handicapped children from burning buildings.
oh waitaminute, i forgot, this is the internet, most people here already are that awesome anyhow. [/quote]
Why limit yourself to a 14 inch dick? If you didnt set limits you could have a sixteen incher like mine:)
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i would s\just skip along with my 2% body-fat on ,my 6’4" chiseled 350lb frame, winning mixed martial arts contest, banging super models with my 14inch dick, while i made more money than god whilst managing a multinational corporation, and in my part time rescuing handicapped children from burning buildings.[/quote]
So you’d be like Darkninja?[/quote]
ya, you mean i am not?
[quote]steven alex wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
Marquas, who here is telling you what your limits are? i missed that. cannot i or anyone else discuss the possible benefit of setting realistic goals without upsetting the truly awesome and limitless members here that will keep progressing to the point of superhuman abilities just because they will it to be so?
if i believed that i was really that awesome, that i could just will myself to be whatever i want to be, i would be the happiest person in the world, and would not get so defensive when the peasants and mere mortals who have “limited” themselves speak their mind about their mundane experiences.
i would s\just skip along with my 2% body-fat on ,my 6’4" chiseled 350lb frame, winning mixed martial arts contest, banging super models with my 14inch dick, while i made more money than god whilst managing a multinational corporation, and in my part time rescuing handicapped children from burning buildings.
oh waitaminute, i forgot, this is the internet, most people here already are that awesome anyhow. [/quote]
Why limit yourself to a 14 inch dick? If you didnt set limits you could have a sixteen incher like mine:)[/quote]
did i say 14"? my mistake, what i meant is mine is whatever you say yours is plus an inch or two.
[quote]niksamaras wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Theoretically, according to quantum mechanics a man COULD walk through a wall with a very small, but non-zero probability; however, by human perception, yes…yes, it’s quite impossible, and very safe to say we’ll never see this happen.
[/quote]
I am gonna start spending 4 hours every goddamn day until I walk through a wall. [/quote]
So, you need to loose as much mass as possible, the wall needs to be as thin as possible, and you need to be traveling as fast as possible.
Hope that helps. Please video the results.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]niksamaras wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Theoretically, according to quantum mechanics a man COULD walk through a wall with a very small, but non-zero probability; however, by human perception, yes…yes, it’s quite impossible, and very safe to say we’ll never see this happen.
[/quote]
I am gonna start spending 4 hours every goddamn day until I walk through a wall. [/quote]
So, you need to loose as much mass as possible, the wall needs to be as thin as possible, and you need to be traveling as fast as possible.
Hope that helps. Please video the results.[/quote]
I guess it’s perspective and approach to the problem/goal.
I’ll want to get a dense/large as possible, then start with a thin wall with wide stud spacing and work up from there.
Even if it’s just a paper wall, and I walk through it, I can say “I walked through a wall” where with the “impossible” attitude, they never even bothered trying because they KNEW it couldn’t be done.
I AM a special snowflake.