Lil Wayne

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[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
Go buy/download/rent The Notorious B.I.G.'s “Ready to Die.” I know most of you have probably heard it a numerous amount of times. But listen to it again anyway.

That LP is what I’m talking about. One of the sickest LPs EVER - in any genre of music. Hit after hit, after mothaF-cking HIT.

I remember waking up one day, getting ready for school. I went downstairs to get breakfast, and in keeping my usual habit, cracked open the front page of the Los Angeles Times. Somewhere in the middle of the page, about halfway down, right below where the crease folds the paper in half, I saw/read that the Notorious B.I.G. was murdered. I still remember that day. I remember the picture they featured. I remembered Christopher Wallace. I remember thinking “damn.” I knew rap music had lost one of the greats, over nothing.

If Lil Weezy died, I can’t honestly say I would care whatsoever. I mean BirdMan is better than the guy.

Another quick anecdote: A friend and I were discussing rap the other day, and of course “Ready to Die” came up. This is what he had to say. “Yeah, when I went to Europe for a summer, I could only bring 4 CDs. One of them was ‘Ready to Die.’ BOOM. Done with hip-hop.”

The Mt. Rushmore of Rap:

  1. 2pac
  2. Biggie
  3. Jay-Z
  4. Dr. Dre/Young Snoop[/quote]

I always liked Pac way more. I dig some shit from Big, but I always thought back in those days that the West Coast was the shit, East couldn’t compare.

Although I still think “Juicy” is one of the five best rap songs ever made

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

I always liked Pac way more. I dig some shit from Big, but I always thought back in those days that the West Coast was the shit, East couldn’t compare.

Although I still think “Juicy” is one of the five best rap songs ever made[/quote]

I agree. Pac was better. If I had to rank them, it’d be Pac at 1 and Biggie at 2.

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BIG was light years better than 2Pac. Not even cose. Smalls was brilliant, Pac was belligerent and committed many philosophical errors.

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So much hate. So much hate. Let people listen to what they want, I hate soulja boy’s music, but if someone listens to it, whatever. Doesn’t mean im going to bash and flame them into oblivion. Wayne’s got Protégé I see, Drake.

Listen to Drake’s music. Its pretty sick. He only released mixtapes currently, but theyre still insane. Listen to ALL of BOTH mixtapes to understand how many styles he can rap AND sing in. His lyrics are pretty sick too.

Heartbreak Drake
So Far Gone

^ My fav mixtapes ever.
Few of my favourite songs from these:

Brand New - Drake (singing)

Still Fly

Ransom

Successful

Lust for Life

The Calm

Uptowm

Hes my current favourite rapper/hip-hop artist. Eminem is my favourite rapper of all time. Remember im only 15, so I didnt grow up listning to 2Pac and biggie.

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… He’s horrible. It is his kind that are ruining rap. He has no idea how to keep beat, he just comes on the mic and starts talking in rhymes. Compared to guys like Nas and Big, he’s a complete joke.

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[quote]ahzaz wrote:
Hes my current favourite rapper/hip-hop artist. Eminem is my favourite rapper of all time. Remember im only 15, so I didnt grow up listning to 2Pac and biggie.[/quote]

That last part would be the reason you think Lil Wayne is any good. Go listen to some Biggie, Nas, Jadakiss from back in the day, Big L, hell even Eminem’s old stuff SHITS on lil’ Wayne.

Plus, Wayne jacked his flow from one of his ghostwriters. He’s overusing the equalizer, just like every other damn gimmick rapper, and he doesn’t actually TALK ABOUT ANYTHING.

I like a few songs. “I feel like dying,” “Something you forgot,” they’re good songs. But most of his shit is just that, shit. He puts out so much stuff hes BOUND to have a real hit or two. Everything else is just hype. People assume they SHOULD think his shit is good because he’s lil wayne.

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I like Wayne. He makes some good club bangers.
Sorry I’m not deep into it like some of y’all but if it’s makin the club bounce I like it.

Not really interested in hearing every niche rapper with a story to tell.
I prefer metal overall anyway but Wayne is fine by me. But then, I’m not expecting a reckoning, just something catchy.

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Some of my favorites:

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:

so, he has no credibilty at all and is the definition of clown. He is basically Weird Al, right?

Weird Al is corny. I think Eminem’s album sales alone prove he isn’t some one schtick artist. Some of his most memorable songs are actually “motivational” to some degree (like Lose Yourself…which is still one of his most downloaded songs). Of all of the artists to pick on, I am not sure why you chose Em. [/quote]

I get all his good songs like lose yourself,rabbit run,rock bottom, the way iam, and maybe 1 or 2 more,thats when he is good, when he’s talkin about real shit, but how many songs are like that? after all the albums he’s made, all the remixes he’s been on, how many songs can you actually “feel”

like, compare your emotion while listening to " rabbit run", “lose yourself”, “rock bottom” to his other songs,

i give it to him, he’s got the best rhyming out there, its all meaningless

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:

What I define as " real" is actually doing everything you talk about in a song. I dont think he’s ever cut anyone’s head off or any of the bullshit he blabbers about in his songs.Which makes his songs meaningless, he still is a badass rhymer tho. But content aint there, at all. Other than “Rock Bottom” that was basically it!

You do know that Johnny Cash never shot his woman down and went to Juarez, right?

And yet by country standards, you’re not going to find a motherfucker that is more “real” or sang about real things than he.

Like X said, to a degree, yes, it’s for shock value. However, I think his arrest record has shown that he’s not some Princeton kid pretending to be hard- he comes from the ghetto and raps alot about his life. [/quote]

I’m not that familiar with Cash, i have heard a few of his songs, how many times did he say he killed his girl? vesus the amount of killings,rapings,and all that eminem spouts

and whats on his arrest record? small time shit right?

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I can’t even begin to grasp the size of the generation gap that exists, that makes the young bulls on this website not know who Pac and Big were. My God.

For the first time in my life, I truly feel old. And I’m 25 fucking years old. First it was the glut of NBA players younger than me, and now this. Fuck me.

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The 2nd link you provided sounds like a lame copy of Freaky Tales by Too Short. I didnt like any of the links you provided, a couple of Lil Wayne’s songs are good though.

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FUCK HIm
FUCK LIL WAYNE
FUCK HIS DUMB ASS
he is so FUCKING retarded
and it fucking offends the fuck out of me

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

I’m not that familiar with Cash, i have heard a few of his songs, how many times did he say he killed his girl? vesus the amount of killings,rapings,and all that eminem spouts
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Hmm, let’s start with Delia

Then we have the classic, “I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.”

Next, he takes a shot of cocaine and shoots his woman down in “Cocaine Blues”

And the list goes on:
The Long Black Veil
Austin Prison
The Sound of Laughter
Hardin Wouldn’t Run
Don’t Take Your Guns to Town
Joe Bean

And these are just the songs about murder. He’s got plenty of other songs about being a wanted man, being in prison, and just breaking the law in general.

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And speaking of killing people on records, this is what the man responsible for the success of NWA, Ice Cube, The DOC, Snoop, 2Pac, Eminem, 50 Cent, and other “murderers” has to say about it.

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
And speaking of killing people on records, this is what the man responsible for the success of NWA, Ice Cube, The DOC, Snoop, 2Pac, Eminem, 50 Cent, and other “murderers” has to say about it.

It's Entertainment... - YouTube [/quote]

ha, its just entertainment! so, they are just actors, and nothing they say should be held as true?

they prolly bullshit about their pasts too, they prolly arent from any steets at all, i’ll even say i’m more hardcore then these bitches. No, i dont have a police record, but i’ve been around the block and i’ve done some horrible shit that eats my soul, as someone who as done all this, i’m not gonna brag about it, it aint cool, it aint glamour! anyone who has lived the life knows that if you survive it, you never wanna talk about it again, the real thug hates rap music!!

truthfully, look at the demographic that largely listens to rap. its young inner city kids, who have little guidance. they look up to these bitch ass dudes on these sell out rap songs and try to be them. if all they here is “sell crack”, “fuck bitches”, " kill that nigga" what the fuck do you think theyre gonna do? kids are blank slates and if rappers dont fuckin realize that, the streets and hoods they claim to be so proud of are going to continue to get tougher and tougher.

I’ve been talking about content on this board, and my point is. all the lyrical skills these dudes have could be put to better use, like politics/ helping out their hoods/advocating for victims of discrimination/ endless possiblities! they obviously have the brain to write a pwerful speech, if they can write a song that moves people

but no! these faggots have to sell out the streets that made them, fuck it! theyre bitches that just continue stereotypes, and for what? a fuckin check! yeah, make your people look fuckin ridiculous so you can have a god damn chain!

i love their hypocracy too! they claim to be anti-establishment, but who do they crawl to for a check? the fuckin establishment!!! fuckin slaves!

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
malonetd wrote:
And speaking of killing people on records, this is what the man responsible for the success of NWA, Ice Cube, The DOC, Snoop, 2Pac, Eminem, 50 Cent, and other “murderers” has to say about it.

ha, its just entertainment! so, they are just actors, and nothing they say should be held as true?

they prolly bullshit about their pasts too, they prolly arent from any steets at all, i’ll even say i’m more hardcore then these bitches. No, i dont have a police record, but i’ve been around the block and i’ve done some horrible shit that eats my soul, as someone who as done all this, i’m not gonna brag about it, it aint cool, it aint glamour! anyone who has lived the life knows that if you survive it, you never wanna talk about it again, the real thug hates rap music!!

truthfully, look at the demographic that largely listens to rap. its young inner city kids, who have little guidance. they look up to these bitch ass dudes on these sell out rap songs and try to be them. if all they here is “sell crack”, “fuck bitches”, " kill that nigga" what the fuck do you think theyre gonna do? kids are blank slates and if rappers dont fuckin realize that, the streets and hoods they claim to be so proud of are going to continue to get tougher and tougher.

I’ve been talking about content on this board, and my point is. all the lyrical skills these dudes have could be put to better use, like politics/ helping out their hoods/advocating for victims of discrimination/ endless possiblities! they obviously have the brain to write a pwerful speech, if they can write a song that moves people

but no! these faggots have to sell out the streets that made them, fuck it! theyre bitches that just continue stereotypes, and for what? a fuckin check! yeah, make your people look fuckin ridiculous so you can have a god damn chain!

i love their hypocracy too! they claim to be anti-establishment, but who do they crawl to for a check? the fuckin establishment!!! fuckin slaves!

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Wow, you really took this thread in a whole new direction.

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Too bad his post is filled with errors.

PS:G-RAP listeners demographic is primarily suburban whites.

Most of them(NWA, DRE, CUBE, etc.) did grow up in compton. Ice Cube speaks against hoodrat mentality as well, being as he has seen it all happen.

I almost got shot in a gang related shootout yesterday :stuck_out_tongue:

Hood status +

even though I was in a car…

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[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
Too bad his post is filled with errors.

PS:G-RAP listeners demographic is primarily suburban whites.

Most of them(NWA, DRE, CUBE, etc.) did grow up in compton. Ice Cube speaks against hoodrat mentality as well, being as he has seen it all happen.

I almost got shot in a gang related shootout yesterday :stuck_out_tongue:

Hood status +

even though I was in a car…[/quote]

Yeah, I wasn’t going to get into what I disagree with. Nor was I going to bring up that it’s not Dre’s responsibility to raise anyone’s child but his own.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
malonetd wrote:
And speaking of killing people on records, this is what the man responsible for the success of NWA, Ice Cube, The DOC, Snoop, 2Pac, Eminem, 50 Cent, and other “murderers” has to say about it.

ha, its just entertainment! so, they are just actors, and nothing they say should be held as true?

[/quote]

Exactly.

Anyone who thinks that most music is auto biographical is an idiot, just as anyone who thinks that being a murderer/drug dealer/street robber is in any way aspirational or deserving of respect is also an idiot.

How “real” someone is has nothing to do with the overall point above. You’re actually condemning the content not its validity and this is only a problem because certain aspects of society seem to have problems filtering content.

Or in other words most rappers talk shit which is a problem because most people are stupid.