Lifting Weights = Warrior?

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[quote]BH6 wrote:
I will add to the fray by suggesting that a warrior is a person who fights and prepares to give his life in defense of an ideal or an institution that is greater than himself. If that cuts out the cancer victim who wins a personal triumph by beating cancer than so be it. If it cuts out the wrestler, the boxer, the UFC fighter, the football player, the soccer player, the champion cup stacker or the NASCAR driver, than so be it. It doesn’t have to be a Military guy (or gal) it doesn’t have to be person in public service. 14 years in the Marine Corps and that is the best I can do, so hell, I don’t know either.

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I agree with you definition. Also, though I think anyone who devotes their life to fighting and only fighting, can also classify. Therefore I say most UFC fighters are warriors.

And I never said I was a warrior, I said I live a warrior lifestyle, and I stive to someday become a warrior, living only to serve and destroy all evil men.

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[quote]HardcoreHorn wrote:
… and I stive to someday become a warrior, living only to serve and destroy all evil men.[/quote]

Good luck with that.

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Does a “Warrior Class” exist? Men who have a common belief or value system perhaps?

Navy Seals, Delta, a SWAT Team? Are these men part of a warrior class who enjoy the test and challenges the life of a warrior provides.

Just thinking our loud and stirring the pot a little.

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[quote]HardcoreHorn wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
panther2k wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
Professor X wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That’s how I feel about it. If you are military, cool, you may have a reason to be upset with it. If not, you are just bitching because someone else used a term to describe their effort. How is that possibly harming someone because they consider themselves a “warrior” in the weight room? Sometimes it may take that mentality for someone to competely change their habits and the way they look. The real question is, who are you to define someone else’s battles in life and how important they are to them?

Words have meaning. Using your logic, someone who is 6’, 145 pounds is “big.”

The cancer patient issue is actually a pretty easy call: Is the person literally fighting against a force that is trying to kill him or her? Yep.

In today’s society, everyone is a winner. Now EVERYONE is a warrior.

You seem to have missed the point. For me, getting my degree was no easy task. I could very easily say I “fought” to get it. It isn’t up toi you to decide how important my personal battles are. It isn’t your place to make that distinction for anyone but yourself.

Orion, your post was deep and right on topic.

i’ve been in fights. literally. does that mean that i’m a WARRIOR?

you ‘fought’ for your degree. i can see why you would have to. but…jesus. is EVERYTHING about you?

No, everything is clearly about YOU…and your 150k a year salary…with the gardener…and the almost-pro-ball career. I wouldn’t dare take your place. You are worth too much to all of us.

He does seem to be a bit cocky for someone who was a failure as a professional athlete.

we all fail at some point. i went to college for free and got payed to play football. i wasn’t good enough to get an active spot on an NFL roster.

some guys make the spot and never play. some guys get as far as special teams. some guys are backups. some guys start. some are stars. i walked away after one year and focused on other things, athletic and otherwise. i don’t display any of the trophies i won playing football, baseball or wrestling, weightlifting or powerlifting, golf or rec league basketball or softball. who gives a fuck.

i bring shit up HERE because there are lot of people i recognize and full-of-shit jokes who think they’ve done something because they’ve picked up a barbell and posed for a picture in their bathroom.

in my life i am respected and liked and i get along with everyone. i try for excellence in all areas of my life. like most, i don’t always get there. yeah. i AM a failed athlete. aren’t we all. i’m a failed lot’s of things. but i like where i am and where i’m going. do you?

Getting along with everyone means you must not stand for anything. The second you stand for something, you create many enemies.[/quote]

Yeah!! lol

Better to stand for nothing sometimes and reduce the headaches. Or you can be like me and carry a bottle of Advil around with you. Its probably easier to be a coward, you never gain anything… but then again you never had any pride or dignity to lose in the first place. Stand for something whether it be right or wrong, good or bad… whose judgment is going to matter anyway besides your own or a higher power.

I’ve found that when I’m not in the middle of something, standing for something or somebody… than I’m just a nobody lurking on the sidelines and I stand for nothing. What a boring place to be… but at least you won’t get blood on ya.

Sometimes blood taste good.

1- You make things happen.
2- You watch things happen.
3- You wonder what the fuck happened.

Only number 1 gets to fuck the prom queen.

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[quote]hedo wrote:
Does a “Warrior Class” exist? Men who have a common belief or value system perhaps?

Navy Seals, Delta, a SWAT Team? Are these men part of a warrior class who enjoy the test and challenges the life of a warrior provides.

Just thinking our loud and stirring the pot a little.[/quote]

I think “warrior class” historically referred to professional soldiers. So your examples would indeed be examples of the warrior class.

As for men who share a common belief system: I believe that on a large scale this is referred to as “cultures” or a “religions” or, less flatteringly, “cults.”

Anyway, here’s an interesting experiment. How do you define a warrior? And do you consider yourself a warrior?

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[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:

Sometimes blood taste good.

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GHF- oral sex during your ladies time of the month is a bit of a taboo. At least have her leave her tampon in, whether or not you like the taste of blood.

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:

Sometimes blood taste good.

GHF- oral sex during your ladies time of the month is a bit of a taboo. At least have her leave her tampon in, whether or not you like the taste of blood. [/quote]

LMFAO!

…score one for Barney.

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:

Sometimes blood taste good.

GHF- oral sex during your ladies time of the month is a bit of a taboo. At least have her leave her tampon in, whether or not you like the taste of blood. [/quote]

You can use the string as dental floss and still earn your red wings.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:

Sometimes blood taste good.

GHF- oral sex during your ladies time of the month is a bit of a taboo. At least have her leave her tampon in, whether or not you like the taste of blood.

You can use the string as dental floss and still earn your red wings.[/quote]

Unproud owner of the red wings patch. Do that shit when its pitch dark and you’ll be earning your dirty sanchez patch too!

…all threads lead to sex… at some point or another…

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To sum up:

  1. Everyone respects real warriors and the vast majority of people on this site know they are not warriors.

  2. Warrior mentality is a psychological/motivational technigue

  3. Hack Wilson doesn’t like Prof. X and Prof. X doesn’t like Hack Wilson.

  4. Go Heavy Fool gave the Prom Queen oral while she was no her period.

  5. Barney Fife and DB are funny as hell.

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[quote]deputydawg wrote:

  1. Go Heavy Fool gave the Prom Queen oral while she was no her period.[/quote]

Busted! Oh, well… at least I got the prom queen.

[quote]
5) Barney Fife and DB are funny as hell.[/quote]

DB is always funny… and Barney is making a name for himself.

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[quote]deputydawg wrote:

  1. Hack Wilson doesn’t like Prof. X and Prof. X doesn’t like Hack Wilson.

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Prof X ate Hack Wilson then shit him out, Hack Wilson is now trying to crawl back up the Prof’s ass because he found a place he can call home.

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A Solider fights for his country and a fighter fights for fame. A Merc fights for money and a gurrillea for change. But a warrior fights for something greater than himself something worth more than his or her life. The truest warrior I’ve ever seen was not on a battlefield or in a ring, but was an eleven year old girl in the cancer ward fighting to keep her family together while she was dying. So all the macho bullshit fails when faced with true courage like hers.

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[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
deputydawg wrote:

  1. Go Heavy Fool gave the Prom Queen oral while she was no her period.

Busted! Oh, well… at least I got the prom queen.

  1. Barney Fife and DB are funny as hell.

DB is always funny… and Barney is making a name for himself.
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(sorry, I have to make fun of myself here… I see a perfect opportunity to rip my statement up)

T-Members that hate the fool: Hey Go heavy, you didn’t get the prom queen you douchebag… all you got was a face full of rojo-gojo; combination of vaginal discharge and really raunchy blood that beens marinating for 2 days. And, you got it from the stripper your mom hired to go to the prom with you.

(((LOSER!!!)))

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for the record, I havn’t made any real attempts to contribute to the argument of the thread because I don’t think there is one. so I decided to make light of the thread and stir it up a little with a bunch of non-sense because that’s all I see being argued back & forth in here anyway.

Noone on this site is a warrior, including myself… at least a couple confirmed kills should be a requirement. There might be 1 or 2 possible candidates on T-Nation, but I doubt it… if there is, then they were in battle and they have killed some people for a much greater cause than your so called warriorlike mission.

GERONIMO was a warrior. You(whoever the fuck you are) are NOT!!! You’re not even a fake warrior. You don’t even fight in the UFC to be the fake so called warrior.

Now, the defintion… anybody in here reserves the right to call themselves whatever the fuck they want. I’m Phil Helmuth motherfucker.

WARrior! Think about it. C’mon you little MMA guy. Do you really think you and the term WARrior should often collide in the same sentence? You’re fooling nobody… you ain’t no fucking warrior. You’re a punk that wouldn’t even show up on the same battlefield.

The true warrior faces imminent death with viscious disregard for his own life. Why? To defeat a cause greater than a fucking trophy or title!

Keep the term WARRIOR for those who deserve to be called one. I’m not even going to argue who I think does. I made it clear, it is noone on this site. You all can argue what, when, where, & why… the WHO, ain’t fucking you.

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GHF: I agree. this is kind of a dumb thread. I think the vast majoirty of people know the difference. The humor is the good part. Also reading the exchanges between Prof. X and Hack Wilson.

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GHF,

I almost agree. A warrior is simply someone who has engaged in active warfare. We do have some of those on this site, who have risked their lives in a combat zone and may or may not have confirmed kills.

However, they are still just people. They can be heros and worthy of respect and fighting for ideals, or because it is their job or duty, but they are just people, even if they are warriors.

I dislike the concept of diefication and making it impossible for people to appropriately claim the title because the bar is so damned high. There are some here. There are veterans from less recent wars here.

We do get to breathe the same air, express our opinions in their presence, and decide we personally do or don’t like them or what they may personally stand for. I find this aspect important to keep in mind.

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:

Enlighten me: Why are you guys who never risked your life fighting or served in combat warriors?[/quote]

I’m with you.
In our sad days people like to take names… they call themselves in the way they like.

We live in a world of wannabe.

I’m not into professional military. I would like but i can’t. However I have done my battle as sword fighter. I have battled with other man in armor and without armor for the joy of the act. However i don’t call myself warrior cause I’m not.

So far i see people who lift barely half their weight in the bench taking the name of “bber” or “PLer”… That make me smile… :wink:

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
The “300” thread reminded of something that has always baffled me…

Why do so many people who lift weights but never served in the military or fought (professionally or on the streets) talk about being warrior?

Do people really think that lifting weights and reading Sun Tzu qualifies them for warrior status?

I’m serious. I hear gym-goers contanstly talking about their “warrior philosophy.” It’s really annoying. Perhaps I am missing something.

Enlighten me: Why are you guys who never risked your life fighting or served in combat warriors?[/quote]

I am fairly sure this has been covered already but I feel the need to say it.

Warrior
Soldier

Do me a quick favor and look at those two words. Do they sound the same? No. Are they spelled the same? Nope. Do they mean the same thing? Well I?ll be damned, no they do not!

That?s because, (drum roll please) they are two different words! They both have different definitions, spelling, meaning, and can be used in different manners. A warrior is not necessarily a soldier, and vice versa.

Grab yourself a dictionary and learn a little bit more about the English language before you criticize people who use the words in it.

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[quote]blooey wrote:
hedo wrote:
Does a “Warrior Class” exist? Men who have a common belief or value system perhaps?

Navy Seals, Delta, a SWAT Team? Are these men part of a warrior class who enjoy the test and challenges the life of a warrior provides.

Just thinking our loud and stirring the pot a little.

I think “warrior class” historically referred to professional soldiers. So your examples would indeed be examples of the warrior class.

As for men who share a common belief system: I believe that on a large scale this is referred to as “cultures” or a “religions” or, less flatteringly, “cults.”

Anyway, here’s an interesting experiment. How do you define a warrior? And do you consider yourself a warrior?[/quote]

I define a warrior as someone who is a leader in combat… The kind of person who is a natural on the battlefield. The guy who shows no fear when others a petrified. By natural I mean someone who is instinctive as well as trained.

In the military I’ve seen a few seargents who were warriors. A couple of 1st.Lt’s. Beyond that your too far removed from the field to be judged as a warrior.

Me, I’m not a warrior. I was a soldier and a competent commander. I’ve been in the company of warriors and heroes. You realize who the warriors are when the bullets are flying pretty quickly.