Lifting in a Rams Head

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]punnyguy wrote:
You’re doing the right thing Matty. My close friend does a lot of surgery close to the facial nerve, and I’m pretty darn sure from all his stories that surgery can only damage nerves (accidentally of course), not repair them. As I’m sure your doctor told you, nerves have the potential to regenerate, but it takes like 9 months to a year I think, so hang in there.

I also think this is where I’m going to have to admit that after ignoring the Quasimodo bump in my cervical area, then getting tingling in my left arm, then reading your story, I had an epiphany (I’m old!) and I now use a pussy pad (Harbinger brand, actually quite sturdy) when I squat. Philosophical question: if the pussy pad is hard enough, aren’t you in fact merely squatting with a thick bar!!! That’s my story and I’m sticking to it…lol[/quote]

Thanks PG, I value your opinion so this makes me hopeful

But…

I dont care if the pussy pas was made out of titanium…its still a pussy pad![/quote]

True 'dat! Or you could add two more pads, and be the opposite of a pussy, whatever that may be! Gotta love labels…

http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/use-the-yoke-bar/

The hard core guys love the SSB bar. I readily admit that if my gym had this bar, the “pussy pad solution” would be ditched in a nanosecond!!!

That’s all good news Matty, rock on.

Avoiding the knife is a good thing. A guy at work had a similar injury and surgery. He was out for a long time. Necks and spines are nothing to screw with.

Thanks guys, Im just going to roll with the punches…and take small victories like today

3x3 week 1 day 1
Dl - 325x4x6 - first set was double overhand but switched to mixed because my setup is totally different when setting up double overhand. I wish I had the grip strength to go double overhand because I feel more comfortable.

Front squat - 160x4x6. Kept it light.

Db bench - 80x3x10
SS rear db fly - 30x4x20

4A - pendlay row - 230x5x7 250x5
4B - hypers - 4x10
4C - HLR - 4x10

Prowler Push/Pull - up to 8 plates

Cold reality fact: It took about 3 years after my nerve damage to get my strength back to where it was and my right side is still weaker than my left/ not by much but it is still there.

Good news is that it came back and I now know a lot more about training in general.

A lot of sessions done weekly per muscle group all stopped well short of failure is the way to train for you Matty. Do not “Bodybuild” this stuff Matty. Going to failure is very detrimental to your recovery process on your nerves. Be carefull on your assistance exercises and really work on your mobility.

The book “Becoming a supple leopard” should be like reading a morning newspaper for you. Very serious here. There is a lot of information in that book for people like us with nerve impingement especially by the First Rib.

Hope this helps

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
Cold reality fact: It took about 3 years after my nerve damage to get my strength back to where it was and my right side is still weaker than my left/ not by much but it is still there.

Good news is that it came back and I now know a lot more about training in general.

A lot of sessions done weekly per muscle group all stopped well short of failure is the way to train for you Matty. Do not “Bodybuild” this stuff Matty. Going to failure is very detrimental to your recovery process on your nerves. Be carefull on your assistance exercises and really work on your mobility.

The book “Becoming a supple leopard” should be like reading a morning newspaper for you. Very serious here. There is a lot of information in that book for people like us with nerve impingement especially by the First Rib.

Hope this helps[/quote]

Thanks brother, the cold reality for me is promising that at one point I will be able to get back to near full strength, and its happening for me now…slooooowwwwly

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
Cold reality fact: It took about 3 years after my nerve damage to get my strength back to where it was and my right side is still weaker than my left/ not by much but it is still there.

Good news is that it came back and I now know a lot more about training in general.

A lot of sessions done weekly per muscle group all stopped well short of failure is the way to train for you Matty. Do not “Bodybuild” this stuff Matty. Going to failure is very detrimental to your recovery process on your nerves. Be carefull on your assistance exercises and really work on your mobility.

The book “Becoming a supple leopard” should be like reading a morning newspaper for you. Very serious here. There is a lot of information in that book for people like us with nerve impingement especially by the First Rib.

Hope this helps[/quote]
Interesting about the book. I have looked through it, and the older I get with injuries the more this interests me.

I get up now at 40 and my back feels like 90, I can barely stand up straight and if not for foam rolling I would spend all day in pain.

just downloaded the 50 page preview…Im happy its not only me Derek!

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
just downloaded the 50 page preview…Im happy its not only me Derek![/quote]

:slight_smile: Yea Matty with wife, kids, work and employees. I want to be feeling good, not feeling like shit all the time.

I can’t say enough about the book.

I have clients with lower back pain/shoulder isssues/neck issues - who have gone to Chiro’s and had very strong medicine (Pain killers) with little to no change and after a couple of sessions with me using techniques from the book made a world of difference.

Thing is people try to mask the problem and not fix the problem the book teaches you how to fix and alleviate a lot of impingements.

I now take about 5 minutes a day working on spinal mobility and it is worth it.

Im gonna follow your footsteps, plan on reading a good deal of the boom tomorrow. Hey Derek, thats the key for me too, Im done feeling beat up all the time.

3x3 Week 1 Day 2

Flat Bench (CG) 205x4x6 (SS with Chins 5x8)
SGDL - 280x4x6
DB Split Squat - 35x3x10 (spastic)

Hang Clean - 140x10 190x2x3

4A - Spoon Press - 60x4x15
4B - Chest Supported DB Row - 85x4x10
4C - DB Laterals - 35x4x15
4D - Decline situps - 4x10

Bench was a disappointment a real struggle, but to be expected.

knees were bitching today.

3x3 week 1 day 4

Squat- 260x4x6
CGFP - 190x4x6
Trap Bar Press - 100x3x15 120x10
GM - 140x10 190x2x10

4A - 1arm tbars - 75x4x10
4B - decline sit ups - 4x10
4C - hypers - 4x10

WG pull ups - 6x5
Poundstone Curls - 40,30,20

Extra day

Cable Flies 5x15
Face pulls 3x15
SG High Pull - 140, 160, 190, 230x5 250x3 270x1 230x5

DB snatches…I decided to give them a try because I’m looking to do OH stuff (sorta) despite my injury…these were awesome…

Worked up to 80x5…explosive and fun to do. These will be a mainstay for sure.

Db lateral and band pushdowns alotxalot

Prowler push/pull - up to 8 plates

Solid


Week 2 Day 1 3x3

Comp Stance DL - 355x4x5
Front Squat - 190x5x5
DB Bench - 90x3x8 (SS with Chins wg and Neutral 8,5,8,5)
Hang Cleans - Up to 190x3 (SS band Pushdowns 4x15)

5A - Pendlay Row - 190x10 210x7 230x7,5 250x5 260x5 140x11 (50)
5B - Hypers - 15,10,10, 15
5C - HLR - 5x10

Extra day today - wanted to split up the dl days so will have my extra day on Tuesdays generally as I can’t train on the weekends…

CG incline press - 90x20 135x20 155x10 135x10
Face pull - 4x15
Meadows Row - up to 3plt x 10
Meadows 6way - 10 15 x10 20x6 10x10
Rear db fly - 30x20 50x2x10
Curls - a lot
DB snatch - up to 100x2

3x3 week 2 day 2

Had to blaze through this session…done in an hour…

Flat Bench - 225x4x5 - most I have done since the injury… It was a struggle but promising nonetheless. Going to have to lower my max going forward.

SGDL - 315x5x5
Db split squats - 30x3x8

4a - chins 8, +25x4x5, +45x4, 8
4b - Db spoon press - 60x2x15 70x2x10
4c - HLR - 5x10


3x3 week 2 day 3

SQUAT - 280x4x5
DB floor press - 80x4x6
GM - 135,185x10 225x5

4A - 1arm tbars - 25x10 75x4x10
4B - HLR - 5X10
4C - Hypers 5x10

BW 231.5

1 arm Tbar sounds interesting. You can tell you are going to a real gym.

In Dave’s gym the "t-bar consists of one end an Olympic bar placed at the bottom corner wall of the basement with my low pulley row bar placed underneath the opposite inside collar.

Lol Daves Gym sounds Hard Core!

Extra day… Now on Mondays … Seriously

SGHP - 135,185,195X5 225X3X5 245X3 255X3
Face Pull - 3x10
Clean and Press - 135x5x5
Chins - 3x8
Meadows Row - up to 3pltx10
Cable fly’s - 5x10

Curls, Db laterals, band Tate presses