My last max out day before my meet and it went horribly. I attempted 420 w/o wraps and failed. Failed at my previous pause bench in the gym at 335 and with deads my 500 dead felt like 700…didn’t even attempt the 540.
I believe you have that 420 in you. Believe and see it over and over again in your mind and you will have it. The form was looking good on the descent and the initial push from the bottom. Did you get enough reps in before you tried the squat? Was your mind into it? What about your mental cues? Did something distract you? Don’t let it take you off track. Maybe it was just a bad day everyone has one. Believe man and crush it at the meet. And, the other lifts could just be off because the first was off or the fluke bad day. You have the strength so get it.
I most likely said too much but I hope I can just help you get mad, get angry, and let the weight know you’re in charge. When your mind is set on the goal you will do it. Pulling for you.
You got pitched a little forward on the squat and got stuck. No biggy, you are plenty strong enough to hit that. Just stay tight and explode and that squat will go for sure. GV is right, everyone has an off day, and way better to have it during a training session than at the meet.
Get a little rest, get recovered, shake it off, and go kill it at the meet!
[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
I believe you have that 420 in you. Believe and see it over and over again in your mind and you will have it. The form was looking good on the descent and the initial push from the bottom. Did you get enough reps in before you tried the squat? Was your mind into it? What about your mental cues? Did something distract you? Don’t let it take you off track. Maybe it was just a bad day everyone has one. Believe man and crush it at the meet. And, the other lifts could just be off because the first was off or the fluke bad day. You have the strength so get it.
I most likely said too much but I hope I can just help you get mad, get angry, and let the weight know you’re in charge. When your mind is set on the goal you will do it. Pulling for you.[/quote]
Thanks for this GV…I appreciate the words. Its funny that you mention the reps before the max lift. I always have issues gaguing how many warmups to do and I feel I made too much of a jump, I went from 365 for a single all the way to 420. Mistake, wasnt used to the weight. If anything I rushed into everything yesterday, and the day before I worked a 12 hour day plus a 3 hour drive home (60 miles in three hours…horrible)
You did not say too much I appreciate you taking the time out to view my log and give me help.
With that being said, I could not get yesterday out of my mind…so not using my head I went back to the gym today and I got the 420…I believe the depth is questionable…LMK what you think.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
You got pitched a little forward on the squat and got stuck. No biggy, you are plenty strong enough to hit that. Just stay tight and explode and that squat will go for sure. GV is right, everyone has an off day, and way better to have it during a training session than at the meet.
Get a little rest, get recovered, shake it off, and go kill it at the meet! [/quote]
Thanks Jack…this is a constant issue for me. I have to remember to keep my elbows under the bar to prevent this from happening. On top of that I rushed into everything yesterday, was too amped to get it, over thunk things and effed everything up.
Because I couldnt let it go, I went to the gym today and attempted the 420 again today…probably not the smartest move but this time I got it, albeit with questionable depth.
Like GV and Jack said, no doubt you had the 420 in you, just some minor form issues. Looks like you already proved that today as well. Based upon your numbers during this cycle benching I’m sure you have 335 in you there as well. Guessing you may have been a little defeated mentally after the squats and your bench suffered because of it.
On the deads I would just keep pushing forward. I’ve had some really strong guys tell me that they didn’t feel that great on their first and/or second attempts but nailed it on their final attempt for big PR/record.
I looked at the video very closely and this is what I saw. First, those are baggy shorts which makes it difficult to determine the depth very well. Second, from the line of your knee the depth appeared to be dead on parallel, which some judges will give a green light to while others will not. Another 1/4’’ down and your competition squat is dialed in. Then again in a singlet the squat may have been perfect. I think it’s best when one doesn’t go too low but just clears the parallel line so no energy is wasted and when you have that kind of precision you are elite in form, especially if you repeat that habit.
Nice push on the 420 Matty! Based on the day that you described for the first video, it sounds like you were probably fatigued before you even got to the gym.
In both videos, it’s clear that your legs easily have the strength to drive out of the hole, but as jjack mentioned, you’re pitching forward. I think this is your only hindrance here. Your ass kicks out and your legs are waiting for your chest to catch up. I recognize it b/c I do the same shit all the time. If possible, you may want to try and stay a little more vertical on your descent and trust in your legs, which will have you in better form for the ascent. One thing that helps me with this is keeping my eyes high on the wall and not watching myself in the mirror, or at least until I’m well out of the critical zone. I found that checking form on heavier reps leads me to fall forward in attempt to get lower, rather than letting my legs do the work. For me, if my chest is at my knees, my ass should be damn near the floor, not parallel. I don’t have the core strength to counter a heavy forward lean, so it’s critical to keep my chain pointed as vertical as possible. That’s just what works for me, so take it with a grain of salt.
Regardless, the form wasn’t way off and you’re a badass for getting back in there and getting it done. Nice work!
[quote]DBasler wrote:
Like GV and Jack said, no doubt you had the 420 in you, just some minor form issues. Looks like you already proved that today as well. Based upon your numbers during this cycle benching I’m sure you have 335 in you there as well. Guessing you may have been a little defeated mentally after the squats and your bench suffered because of it.
On the deads I would just keep pushing forward. I’ve had some really strong guys tell me that they didn’t feel that great on their first and/or second attempts but nailed it on their final attempt for big PR/record. [/quote]
No doubt Dave, and after a few days of reflecting I am sure that is what it was. I am not too concerned on the deads as it has been progressing, like you said I think I was just defeated.
[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
I looked at the video very closely and this is what I saw. First, those are baggy shorts which makes it difficult to determine the depth very well. Second, from the line of your knee the depth appeared to be dead on parallel, which some judges will give a green light to while others will not. Another 1/4’’ down and your competition squat is dialed in. Then again in a singlet the squat may have been perfect. I think it’s best when one doesn’t go too low but just clears the parallel line so no energy is wasted and when you have that kind of precision you are elite in form, especially if you repeat that habit.
Great work![/quote]
I agree GV if anything it was parallel or a touch above. I was thinking the same thing at the meet, I was thinking of going very deep on my opener, and then on the other second attempt not go as low to save my energy for a balls out last attempt.
