Help with Bloodwork

Hey all,

I’m 30 years old and have been on trt for a few years now. I tend to blast and cruise. I was on 1g a week of test but started feeling like shit so I lowered my dose and I am currently on:

Test E 350 a week
Tren A 300 mg a week
Masteron 600 mg a week
Proviron 100mg a day

The issue is I’ve been feeling kinda shitty… mostly loss of libido, not getting morning wood, and not being able to mantain erections, I’v never had this issue before. I also feel more sluggish that usual. However, I feel great at the gym, strength is definitely up. I decided to get some bloodwork done to see what might be the issue and my results were as follows:

Estradiol 826.04 pg/ml
range 7.6-43.0
Total test 735.09 ng/dl
range 250-1,080
Bioavailable test 489 ng/dl
SHBG 22.1 nmol/L
Range 7.00-49.00
Free Test 18.9 ng/dl
Range 8.00-23.50

My estrogen is in a crazy high range, do you think that could be my issue? I feel like it might be a typo or something cause that’s a crazy high amount. Also my total test seems to be kinda low considering the fact that I’m injecting test E.

I want to see opinions on these numbers and any help would be greatly appreciated.

How long have you been on this dose?
What is your injection frequency?
When was your blood test taken relative to your last injection?
Are you injecting IM or subq?

That’s a question that belongs in Pharma. And yeah, the E2 is a good source of that problem. That much Mast along with that much Tren… come on. Up for the Olympia title this year? Why would you run that?

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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

T-replacement with this

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His E2 isn’t that high, trenbolone depending on method of hormonal detection is typically detected as falsely elevated E2

Neurological imbalance induced by tren is the most likely culprit of his low libido/feeling run down. If this is OP’s cruise dose, nvm he said blast and cruise. Everyone responds differently to varying doses of test, like a bell curve. However if previous bloods were far higher with lower dosages of test you could have under-dosed gear (or could be injecting within a site with a low bioavailability/ slower absorption rate)

Didn’t say he was on all the stuff while on a gram of test, if he was however that’s pretty funny… because that’s 2250mg gear/wk for a recreational lifter (if we don’t count 100mg tren as 500mg test because tren is far more potent)

Yep, the Tren is a likely problem, but he was just running a gram of test, so who knows what the number really is.If he didn’t have that problem right away on Tren , I’m not sure it’s 100% to blame.

Where do people get off thinking they need over 2g gear to stimulate growth… If you aren’t IFBB pro stay the fuck away from those dosages… not worth the risk in the long run

He better be huge and ripped for that much trouble. Just sayin’…

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Boston Lloyd is huge, but look at his dosages… damn

I’ve been on this dose for about 3 weeks now

Test E inject twice 125 mg twice a week.
Tren Ace 50mg a day Mon - Sat
Masteron 100 mg a day

I got my bloodwork taken this week in Tuesday, after my morning injection. I’m injecting IM

I’ve ran tren plenty of times and have never had this problem before. I usually feel great on test/tren combo. I never run my test super high. The highest I ever go is 600mg a week. But my dumbass decided to experiment at 1 gram cause I read so many people saying that it was great, but after 3 weeks I didn’t notice much a a difference other than just feeling extremely bloated. I usually inject on delts but just recently switched to quads to give my delts a break. Could that be affecting it as well?

My usual blast dosages are 300g test, 300g tren, 300 masteron. I never go beyond that, I recently upped my Masteron dosages cause last time I ran that high my libido was through the roof, so I was hoping it would help. But nope, hasn’t helped this time around.

Dopaminergic properties of masteron probably induce the libido positive effect noted from the compound. DHT metabolites furthermore elict positive effects in relation to neurotransmission (many DHT metabolites act as neurosteroids)

1G test is a loooooot, for some this is past the point of diminishing returns in which more doesn’t equate to better but merely induces more side effects. Give it time before you mess with other variables, otherwise you won’t know what induces dysfunction and what exerts a positive effect… unless you wish to lower the dosages, then I’m all for it

you’re aware of the potential cardiovascular, neurological effects etc right? No judgement, I use gear too, it’s just important that we as a community remain educated in relation to the risks involved (and the mechanisms behind these risks so we can perhaps mitigate them)

What’s you’re resting heart rate on these dosages? I find supra dosages elevate my resting heart rate from 45-49 to 60-70. Increased catecholamine uptake and sensitivity to catecholamine release will exert pro-arrythmiac effects, combine this with other substances that further sensitise this reaction and it can be far more detrimental in nature. Combine AAS and alcohol (or even AAS sometimes in itself) and you may notice (if you’re highly in tune with you’re body) premature ectopic beats during exercise or at rest, while most people (40-75% of the populace) have these regardless during the day, the increased sensitivity to catecholamines may induce more to occur. Furthermore pro arrhythmic effects can predispose one to potentially lethal arrhythmia if the right conditions are presented (VF, A-FIB etc)

The potential for adverse cardiac adaptations furthermore exists, though the relationship between AAS and development of dangerous/adverse structural changes in the myocardium is hotly debated. Whether the dysfunction is subclinical, serious or whether it happens at all over time depends on a myriad of factors (genetic, lifestyle, dose, duration etc). Animal models give us somewhat of a picture given rodents have a four chambered heart similar to humans, however various differences in relation to cardiac morphology, antioxidant, elimination profiles etc exist within rodents making such models highly flawed. In-vitro eliminates environmental and intervening variables (antioxidants etc), thus at this moment we simply don’t have quite enough science for me to come to a conclusion rather than say the string of deaths in the bodybuilding community is concerning (though genetic factors, and the fact many are dropping the day before/the day after a show hints at potentially other variables in conjunction with AAS being at play such as lethal dieuretic induced electrolyte imbalance)

That being said, using AAS with genetics harboured for severe onset early CVD, congenital cardiomyopathy (saying you have this), cardiac defects will DRASTICALLY heighten death risk. Getting cardiac screening prior to use is pivotal, if you can continually have screening done (not practical for most given the stigma) it’d be optimal. I know for a fact my heart is/was healthy and free of any defect. Autonomic dysfunction however is a variable I have to live with which makes me very cautious about my dosages, that and fear for risk.

I remember reading somewhere that Tren shows up as very, very high e2 on a blood test. I’ll try to remember where that was; might have been this forum

And I just read the whole thread and our resident AAS expert already pointed that out :slight_smile:

I’ll help you out. It was around the 4th post of this thread lol

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Yeah I realized that once I actually read the whole thread lol. I did see that on another post sometime back

I agree with you completely, 1g of test is definitely too much. I always though people that went that high were crazy. But I decided to give it a try to see what the fuss is all about and in my opinion it’s definitely not worth it. I couldn’t go past the 3rd week mark. I’m all for lowering my dosages, I mean I love being big and feeling strong as fuck. But I’d rather have my health and libido back up. What dosages would you recommend? I honestly was just thinking of dropping everything and just cruising on 250mg of Test and 50mg a day if proviron. Especially since I’m flying over to Germany to vist my girl for 3 months so it’s important for me to get my libido back on track. Also, when I saw such high e2 levels I panicked on started taking arimidex, I’ve been taking 1mg a day since I got my results hoping I’ll start feeling better. Do you recommend I stay on the adex or do you think the high E2 detection was due to the tren?

I appreciate all your advice… it could also be that my body just hasn’t adjusted to the lower test as I am only going on my 3rd week since dropping from a 1g to 350.

I think it was the gram of test, I’ve ran tren plenty of times and never have had issues. I usually never go beyond 600mg of test, but decided to expire… which was definitely a bad idea.

I’m definitely going to look into that man, I appreciate it.