[quote]WS4JB wrote:
Gooch, he went for a drug test, all natural this go around.
Way, did he ever respond to that question ?[/quote]
He said he felt his body had enough of it and after winning the Arnold twice and Olympia runner-up 4 times he felt it wasn’t a challenge. Not sure how something isn’t challenging when you keep coming second, but I have huge respect for Levrone.
He probably has the second biggest fan-base of every pro bodybuilder, only second to Coleman.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
Gooch, he went for a drug test, all natural this go around.
Way, did he ever respond to that question ?[/quote]
Yah he said something along the lines of “No, I had already won every major title numerous times over and placed in the top 2 at the olympia many times.” He mentioned he had like 67 pro wins or something?
Then he says that it was just too easy for him and he felt he had accomplished everything he could at that time. He said he felt his body was at it’s breaking point and he needed to back off or he would risk his health.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
Gooch, he went for a drug test, all natural this go around.
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I think you missed the point of my post. I’m aware he went for a drug test. I’m saying that even IF he used drugs, it was still an incredible transformation.
And on a side note, people beat drug tests. He could have used after taking the test, for example. There’s no way to be 100% sure except by taking his word for it.
Again, I hope you realize I am not saying he did or didn’t. I’m saying it doesn’t even matter. 
how levrone rolls
levrone looking for a 405 bench
I’ve still been following his blog, but IMO its lost it’s appeal. Deadlifting with a broom stick and doing bicep curls with a rubber band do not interest me.
[quote]Game Time wrote:
I’ve still been following his blog, but IMO its lost it’s appeal. Deadlifting with a broom stick and doing bicep curls with a rubber band do not interest me.[/quote]
it was a low point for him,but i guess he was just doing it to satisfy people who asked questions!
i think this will be good though,it will be interesting to see what approach he takes to training.
[quote]Game Time wrote:
I’ve still been following his blog, but IMO its lost it’s appeal. Deadlifting with a broom stick and doing bicep curls with a rubber band do not interest me.[/quote]
He did the rubber band thing to show what he does to maintain muscle while hes traveling not like he did it to show thats how he got his HOOOGE biceps.
a recap of everything so far.he did a strength phase and hit 405lbs for 3 reps.
just said id throw this in here.
rroad to the 500lb squat
I just noticed the bold type in “The Levrone Report” spells out, “The One”. Cool.
I don’t know anybody who doesn’t like Kev Lev.
I’ll be tuning back in for this one. (I’d fallen off after the original challenge.)
As a side note, he’s looking considerably better now than he did at the end of the first transformation. Too bad I can’t steal a copy of those genetics.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I’ll be tuning back in for this one. (I’d fallen off after the original challenge.)
As a side note, he’s looking considerably better now than he did at the end of the first transformation. Too bad I can’t steal a copy of those genetics.[/quote]
I followed all of them.I dont think many people followed him on the strive for 405 becuase they dropped out when he did the cutting phase.Shame really,i taught the strive for 405 was the best one.
I’ll definitely go back and go through those.
Of course, it’s more fun to catch it while it’s happening. You’re right, I missed on on the drive for 405 – didn’t even know about it – because I found the first episodes of the cutting phase rather boring. Wasn’t too interested in watching him (or anyone) jog through parks and so forth.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I’ll definitely go back and go through those.
Of course, it’s more fun to catch it while it’s happening. You’re right, I missed on on the drive for 405 – didn’t even know about it – because I found the first episodes of the cutting phase rather boring. Wasn’t too interested in watching him (or anyone) jog through parks and so forth.[/quote]
I think he went from 365 (or was it 385?) for a single to 405x3 (so ~430-40 for a single, theoretically?) in 20 days over 10 sessions or so… Well, he did/does have muscle-memory on his side
[quote]Game Time wrote:
I’ve still been following his blog, but IMO its lost it’s appeal. Deadlifting with a broom stick and doing bicep curls with a rubber band do not interest me.[/quote]
lmfao, it lost its appeal for me before it started.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
I think he went from 365 (or was it 385?) for a single to 405x3 (so ~430-40 for a single, theoretically?) in 20 days over 10 sessions or so… Well, he did/does have muscle-memory on his side
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To me it’s kind of interesting how little (relatively speaking) his strength improvement was in the bench press compared to his visual and mass improvements.
He had done 315 for a single after not training at all for 4 years, “yet” with all this mass increase and vast visual improvement, now he’s moved to 405 for a triple. 29% more weight and 2 more reps.
My point is NOT that I’m knocking his achievement. 405 for a triple with fine form is strong.
What is interesting is how it actually is not much of a percentage increase on his far-less-massive, hadn’t-trained-in-years performance.
While of course not remotely being in the same category for size or appearance, I’ve wondered the same thing regarding myself on DL’s.
I can’t remember specifically how early I hit the 405 mark in DL’s but it was relatively early in my training career and quite possibly at say 40 lb less bodyweight at similar percent bf.
Yet while adding that muscular weight and with a lot of time, my improvement (thus far) had been only up to 475.
It’s as if – cruelly enough – one’s best natural lift doesn’t wind up getting the same sort of percentage improvements as other lifts can get. It’s routine for trainees to become 2x, 3x, or even 4x as strong in many movements from the starting point.
But what person that could DL say 315 pretty much as soon as learning the movement (not that that was me) winds up DL’ing 945 or 1260? Not many for the former, and none for the latter.
I’ve seen a guy who looked like nothing in particular – did have good natural delts though – bench approximately (at this point I am not positive on the exact poundage) 245 the first time he ever tried the bench press. But we could say with confidence that he would not wind up being a 735 raw bench presser. That 3x factor just would not happen.
Kind of the same thing, I am thinking, with Levrone. Having the gift of being able to bench 315 while looking like nothing much results in not being able to double that strength – or anything like it – regardless of a lot of mass increase, while another person who had been out of the gym for 4 years would quite likely double his bench in the same time frame yet without gaining nearly as much mass.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
I think he went from 365 (or was it 385?) for a single to 405x3 (so ~430-40 for a single, theoretically?) in 20 days over 10 sessions or so… Well, he did/does have muscle-memory on his side
To me it’s kind of interesting how little (relatively speaking) his strength improvement was in the bench press compared to his visual and mass improvements.
He had done 315 for a single after not training at all for 4 years, “yet” with all this mass increase and vast visual improvement, now he’s moved to 405 for a triple. 29% more weight and 2 more reps.
My point is NOT that I’m knocking his achievement. 405 for a triple with fine form is strong.
What is interesting is how it actually is not much of a percentage increase on his far-less-massive, hadn’t-trained-in-years performance.
While of course not remotely being in the same category for size or appearance, I’ve wondered the same thing regarding myself on DL’s.
I can’t remember specifically how early I hit the 405 mark in DL’s but it was relatively early in my training career and quite possibly at say 40 lb less bodyweight at similar percent bf.
Yet while adding that muscular weight and with a lot of time, my improvement (thus far) had been only up to 475.
It’s as if – cruelly enough – one’s best natural lift doesn’t wind up getting the same sort of percentage improvements as other lifts can get. It’s routine for trainees to become 2x, 3x, or even 4x as strong in many movements from the starting point.
But what person that could DL say 315 pretty much as soon as learning the movement (not that that was me) winds up DL’ing 945 or 1260? Not many for the former, and none for the latter.
I’ve seen a guy who looked like nothing in particular – did have good natural delts though – bench approximately (at this point I am not positive on the exact poundage) 245 the first time he ever tried the bench press. But we could say with confidence that he would not wind up being a 735 raw bench presser. That 3x factor just would not happen.
Kind of the same thing, I am thinking, with Levrone. Having the gift of being able to bench 315 while looking like nothing much results in not being able to double that strength – or anything like it – regardless of a lot of mass increase, while another person who had been out of the gym for 4 years would quite likely double his bench in the same time frame yet without gaining nearly as much mass.[/quote]
Just as a note. I believe that original 315 “bench” was with some spotter assistance. So, I don’t know that you are giving his strength improvement enough credit.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
I think he went from 365 (or was it 385?) for a single to 405x3 (so ~430-40 for a single, theoretically?) in 20 days over 10 sessions or so… Well, he did/does have muscle-memory on his side
To me it’s kind of interesting how little (relatively speaking) his strength improvement was in the bench press compared to his visual and mass improvements.
He had done 315 for a single after not training at all for 4 years, “yet” with all this mass increase and vast visual improvement, now he’s moved to 405 for a triple. 29% more weight and 2 more reps.
My point is NOT that I’m knocking his achievement. 405 for a triple with fine form is strong.
What is interesting is how it actually is not much of a percentage increase on his far-less-massive, hadn’t-trained-in-years performance.
While of course not remotely being in the same category for size or appearance, I’ve wondered the same thing regarding myself on DL’s.
I can’t remember specifically how early I hit the 405 mark in DL’s but it was relatively early in my training career and quite possibly at say 40 lb less bodyweight at similar percent bf.
Yet while adding that muscular weight and with a lot of time, my improvement (thus far) had been only up to 475.
It’s as if – cruelly enough – one’s best natural lift doesn’t wind up getting the same sort of percentage improvements as other lifts can get. It’s routine for trainees to become 2x, 3x, or even 4x as strong in many movements from the starting point.
But what person that could DL say 315 pretty much as soon as learning the movement (not that that was me) winds up DL’ing 945 or 1260? Not many for the former, and none for the latter.
I’ve seen a guy who looked like nothing in particular – did have good natural delts though – bench approximately (at this point I am not positive on the exact poundage) 245 the first time he ever tried the bench press. But we could say with confidence that he would not wind up being a 735 raw bench presser. That 3x factor just would not happen.
Kind of the same thing, I am thinking, with Levrone. Having the gift of being able to bench 315 while looking like nothing much results in not being able to double that strength – or anything like it – regardless of a lot of mass increase, while another person who had been out of the gym for 4 years would quite likely double his bench in the same time frame yet without gaining nearly as much mass.
Just as a note. I believe that original 315 “bench” was with some spotter assistance. So, I don’t know that you are giving his strength improvement enough credit.[/quote]
i just watched the video again of his day one bench,i dont think he would of got that without the spotter.
