Leucine Scheduling

Ok so several years ago I had a great diet 4-5 meals a day. Atleast 2 shakes a day each with about 5 grams of glutamine and creatine. Then about an hour after each shake take about 2 grams of leucine. I got out of lifting for awhile because of rushing to finish school and get a career.

Now that I’ve been back lifting somewhat consitantly for about a year and my diet and sleep have been much healthier. Started taking glutamine and creatine again only once a day with a shake. However, I just started adding 5 grams of leucine to a water bottle to drink about an hour after my shake.

Anyone have a specific schedule they like or seem to find effective for taking leucine? just trying to get some input and ideas for the training and supplment regiment I plan on using this spring.

sounds like classic over-thinking.

As long as you take it, you’re fine. 1 less thing to worry about.

Main reason I’m asking is in research articles it’s been show glutamine and leucine taken at the same time slows down the body in processing the two. Glutamin theoretically needs to go into the cell first in order to come back out and pull leucine in. Not sure if anyone has noticed any difference in taking leucine at a certain time during or after glutamine

I have no empirical nor anecdotal evidence of that. All I can tell you is that unless there have been multiple scientific studies confirming the exact same thing, then it’s just a matter of bullshit.

Bullshit in terms of, one person might tell you A, and another B, but neither of them are right nor wrong. That’s the way I view things at least. Objectivity.

I still think you should not worry about this and just get jacked but I definitely understand your curiosity . Perhaps, you should collect empirical evidence yourself by using two separate methods for 3( or 6) months at the time and then compare your results… most likely, it comes down to “doesn’t really matter” in the long term of things.

Just like most people still probably believe that you NEED to drink protein 20-60 minutes post-workout or else “you lose your gainz”, which, btw, is ridiculous.

Have it with your shake!

honestly, now that I think about it, if you want as “accurate” as an answer to your question,

hit up ‘Alan Aragon’ on facebook/twitter or wherever. He’ll definitely answer that question for you as close to scentific truth as possible.

[quote]Claudan wrote:
I have no empirical nor anecdotal evidence of that. All I can tell you is that unless there have been multiple scientific studies confirming the exact same thing, then it’s just a matter of bullshit.

Bullshit in terms of, one person might tell you A, and another B, but neither of them are right nor wrong. That’s the way I view things at least. Objectivity.

I still think you should not worry about this and just get jacked but I definitely understand your curiosity . Perhaps, you should collect empirical evidence yourself by using two separate methods for 3( or 6) months at the time and then compare your results… most likely, it comes down to “doesn’t really matter” in the long term of things.

Just like most people still probably believe that you NEED to drink protein 20-60 minutes post-workout or else “you lose your gainz”, which, btw, is ridiculous. [/quote]

Well, getting some quickly digested proteins (or di/tri-peptides or even free form aminos) with carbs within that window can definitely enhance ones ability to gain and recuperate. It all depends on what one means by “gains”. I and many others are firm believers in peri-workout nutrition (pre, during, AND after) for getting the most out of very tough training sessions. It is proven via real experience which is way more important than some studies.

[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:

[quote]Claudan wrote:
I have no empirical nor anecdotal evidence of that. All I can tell you is that unless there have been multiple scientific studies confirming the exact same thing, then it’s just a matter of bullshit.

Bullshit in terms of, one person might tell you A, and another B, but neither of them are right nor wrong. That’s the way I view things at least. Objectivity.

I still think you should not worry about this and just get jacked but I definitely understand your curiosity . Perhaps, you should collect empirical evidence yourself by using two separate methods for 3( or 6) months at the time and then compare your results… most likely, it comes down to “doesn’t really matter” in the long term of things.

Just like most people still probably believe that you NEED to drink protein 20-60 minutes post-workout or else “you lose your gainz”, which, btw, is ridiculous. [/quote]

Well, getting some quickly digested proteins (or di/tri-peptides or even free form aminos) with carbs within that window can definitely enhance ones ability to gain and recuperate. It all depends on what one means by “gains”. I and many others are firm believers in peri-workout nutrition (pre, during, AND after) for getting the most out of very tough training sessions. It is proven via real experience which is way more important than some studies.[/quote]

Yes exactly, if you feed your body nutrients consistently(pre/peri/po) then there is no need to worry about the “window”. In the long terms of things there is also not a reason to worry about a “window”(because consistency yields results) BUT I guess the biggest caveat is that most “noobs” or “believers of the window” have shit nutrition all around, so that one shake post-workout is the one sound nutritional decision they make all day.

That’s also how I view anyone(not all obviously) who uses pre-workout supplements: almost automatic sign that their nutrition is shit, otherwise, truly, you wouldn’t need anything besides a cup/pill of coffee.

I personally got the most out of it adding it to my post workout meal.

A very smart guy who used to post on here recommended taking it 5-10g leucine by itself ten minutes before a shake. It was able to be best absorbed that way (because it didn’t have other AA’s to compete with digestion, IIRC.)

My lucien, creatine, glutamine, taurine and grape seed extract all go in the blender with broccoli, spinach, kale, egg white and coconut water for my pre breakfast breakfast.

I’d never heard of taking them separate and have had no issues with that shake aside from tasting like ass.

I’m just going to throw it into my shake for now. Ran into a bit of any injury so i will not be lifting heavy for awhile.