Let's Talk Game w/ Women

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[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
This is an example of a PUA crashing and burning hilariously!

LMFAO!! He sounds like a fucking desperate psycho. Olga dodged a lame ball. And funny how he calls her passive aggressive when he does the same thing to her 'cos she rejected him. Bwaahahahaha!!

He probably not all that, (oh, I’m intelligent, I’m good looking, I got shit loads of money… blah blah!) yes, yes, okay,okay, say that to a naive 19 years old. That’s not what most women are after, idiot. The way you present yourself is what mostly makes them fall for you. You can be confident but there are ways to show it without the need to be perceived as arrogant. I bet Olga knew it the very first time she saw him. She knew he was nothing but an arrogant narcissist cunt. LMFAO!!

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

LMFAO!! He sounds like a fucking desperate psycho. Olga dodged a lame ball. And funny how he calls her passive aggressive when he does the same thing to her 'cos she rejected him. Bwaahahahaha!!

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Apparently he lives in Toronto, just a short drive away from me! I’d pay anything to see him “in action”.

The whole voicemail series was hilarious, but I got serious LOLs out of “Maybe…you were abused? Maybe your mother has cancer?..”

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[quote]orion wrote:

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LMFAO!! Women are still falling for this kind of shit???

‘‘I just saw you and almost got flattened by a car crossing the road… blah blah… your walk is very sexy.’’

‘Yeah? So what? It would’ve been good had you got flattened actually, ‘cos you’ve just wasted 1 minute of my precious time. Now Get out of my way, you creep. I’m late for work.’’

Lol!

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[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:

The whole voicemail series was hilarious, but I got serious LOLs out of “Maybe…you were abused? Maybe your mother has cancer?..”[/quote]

Hahaha! How on earth did he expect Olga to call him back after this? He probably didn’t care anyway. Lol.

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[quote]debraD wrote:
Oh you sillies, teehee. You think you have some control over us girlie things. :slight_smile: We’ve already decided if it’s a yes or a no before you’ve even opened your pretty mouth. The only thing you can do is fuck up a yes and make it a no.
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THIS. THIS. THIS.

THIS X100000000000000000000000000000

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[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
This is an example of a PUA crashing and burning hilariously!o[/quote]

What a fucking tool.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

THIS. THIS. THIS.

THIS X100000000000000000000000000000[/quote]

OK, this intrigues me. Say a woman sees me at the gym for the first time, has she pretty much decided in a millisecond “yes, I’d do him” or “no, not a chance”? Or is there a third “maybe” category, which could be influenced by personality, humour, etc?

For me anyway, I have a very definite “yes/no” switch which is triggered in less than a second.

Rookie question here, sorry. I have zero game. It’s actually remarkable that I’m not a virgin at age 33.

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[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

THIS. THIS. THIS.

THIS X100000000000000000000000000000[/quote]

OK, this intrigues me. Say a woman sees me at the gym for the first time, has she pretty much decided in a millisecond “yes, I’d do him” or “no, not a chance”? Or is there a third “maybe” category, which could be influenced by personality, humour, etc?

For me anyway, I have a very definite “yes/no” switch which is triggered in less than a second.

Rookie question here, sorry. I have zero game. It’s actually remarkable that I’m not a virgin at age 33.[/quote]

There’s no third ‘‘maybe’’ category with me. It’s either yes or no.

HOWEVER, if the ‘‘yes’’ guy happens to have a shitty personality, no sense of humour, let’s take that gym scenario for example – not courteous to other gym patrons and staff, or he thinks too high of himself 'cos he’s got the muscles of Branch Warren and the look of Adonis, then it’s byyyyyyyyeeeee.

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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
This is an example of a PUA crashing and burning hilariously!o[/quote]

What a fucking tool.

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Is that him???

LMFAO!!! I’d expected a George Clooney or or Taylor Lautner or Christiano Ronaldo type.

What a plunker.

Olga probably gave him her business card and told him to call her so she could get rid of him because she was getting bored with his shitty rambling. Lol

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[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
OK, this intrigues me. Say a woman sees me at the gym for the first time, has she pretty much decided in a millisecond “yes, I’d do him” or “no, not a chance”? Or is there a third “maybe” category, which could be influenced by personality, humour, etc?

For me anyway, I have a very definite “yes/no” switch which is triggered in less than a second.

Rookie question here, sorry. I have zero game. It’s actually remarkable that I’m not a virgin at age 33.[/quote]

No dude they’re just bullshitting you. The “yes” category is the “maybe” category. I mean they could see a guy and immediately be like “no way in hell”. If there’s a possibility, and then the guy doesn’t screw it up with his personality, then it’s just confirmation bias that he was a solid “yes” the whole time. So really, we’re back to a scenario where what you say matters. Don’t let them pull your leg like it’s all predetermined lol. Let me know how much pussy you get by just staring silently.

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[quote]orion wrote:
But people who got lucky early grow into naturals.

So, getting laid helps you get to that state, whereas eternal virgins despair.

Both are in a self reinforcing feedback loop, so this is all very chicken egg kind of stuff.

If you are in the wrong loop you either break through by sheer force of will or you stay where you are.[/quote]

Assuming this is in response to my above post about inner peace = game: you probably have a point as far as it goes. I absolutely believe that self reinforcing feedback loops govern much of our day to day behaviour and free will is seldom as free as we would like it to be. I also know that, obviously, being desired by women boosts confidence and so makes you even more desirable.

However, I do not think that being good with women, especially early in life will necessarily make you a happy, effective, self reliant individual. Plenty of legendary cocksmen end up sad, lonely, creepy old men holding on to their memories of the glory days. Conversely, I do believe that being a happy, effective, self reliant individual will generally make you good with women (and other men and employers etc, etc). If I had to pick one rabbit to chase (and I believe you do), I know which one I’m going after.

That said, if this PUA stuff helps some guys work through this stuff in a productive way, cool. I will concede that there may even be some worthwhile concepts to extract from the whole mess. Doesn’t do a lot for me, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.

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Okay this is funny.

That guy was definitely a ‘‘yes’’ guy until he opened his mouth. Lol

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Reads DarkNinja’s posts about walking away from a PUA who is attractive to her.

Remembers how DN enjoys Judo throwing men into submission and making them her subs for the session.

What the hell? As if you’d pass up an opportunity to get one back for womankind. That particular PUA will remember to get hit by a bus next time.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
<taps foot, still waiting>[/quote]

Not married, but you guys do not make me regret that.

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Okay why?
I have a loving wife, who doubles my income and fulfills me in every way? So I dont get new ass, I have the ass I want at any point I want so if anything you should be envious.

Plus I dont have to play the stupid games or go to bed beating off to porn. [/quote]

Nonsense. You surely got the short end of the stick. haha Yeah right. I’ve seen pictures of your wife. I’d say if you weren’t happy, you’d have to be nuts.
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The thing is though, he is playing these stupid games, he just does not know it, because he always more or less was this way.

Thats like a beast that goes into the gym and deadlifts 250kg on the first try wondering what all this fuss about “plateaus” and “nutrition” is all about.[/quote]

You really think so? Granted it’s the internet but Derek strikes me as being genuinely happily married and about as straight forward as they come. He doesn’t seem like a game player.

Hopefully he took my comment as sarcasm too (not sure if that translated well in text). It was meant to be a compliment.

I don’t know, Orion. It just seems like too much work to me to keep up with that kind of facade.

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Derek strikes me as being genuinely happily married and about as straight forward as they come.

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he is, trust me on this~

he’s not, by any stretch of the imagination - trust me on this too~

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[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Derek strikes me as being genuinely happily married and about as straight forward as they come.

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he is, trust me on this~

he’s not, by any stretch of the imagination - trust me on this too~[/quote]
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Trust me, too.

Wait… unless this is part of D’s plan? He’s got us all fooled. :frowning:

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
Reading Orion’s posts is even worse than reading the nonsense X writes when he tries to argue about nothing.

The “game”? PUA? haha, gimme a break.

But I see how this crap can be attractive to some guys.[/quote]

If you’re reading orion’s posts as an endorsement of PUA tactics, well, that actually does explain most your other posts in other recent threads.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Derek strikes me as being genuinely happily married and about as straight forward as they come.

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he is, trust me on this~

he’s not, by any stretch of the imagination - trust me on this too~[/quote]
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Trust me, too.

Wait… unless this is part of D’s plan? He’s got us all fooled. :([/quote]

that sneaky hillbilly~

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
<taps foot, still waiting>[/quote]

Not married, but you guys do not make me regret that.

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Okay why?
I have a loving wife, who doubles my income and fulfills me in every way? So I dont get new ass, I have the ass I want at any point I want so if anything you should be envious.

Plus I dont have to play the stupid games or go to bed beating off to porn. [/quote]

Nonsense. You surely got the short end of the stick. haha Yeah right. I’ve seen pictures of your wife. I’d say if you weren’t happy, you’d have to be nuts.
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The thing is though, he is playing these stupid games, he just does not know it, because he always more or less was this way.

Thats like a beast that goes into the gym and deadlifts 250kg on the first try wondering what all this fuss about “plateaus” and “nutrition” is all about.[/quote]

You really think so? Granted it’s the internet but Derek strikes me as being genuinely happily married and about as straight forward as they come. He doesn’t seem like a game player.

Hopefully he took my comment as sarcasm too (not sure if that translated well in text). It was meant to be a compliment.

I don’t know, Orion. It just seems like too much work to me to keep up with that kind of facade.
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Jesus, there are no games.

Look at the forst video I posted, what he does.

DN thinks that it is hilarious that this “stuff” still works.

The point is, he could read from the telephone book and it might work.

Its about his confidence, his vibe and whatnot.

This guy has leaned that because he also posted videos where he crashed like an Italian fighter pilot.

If Derek did all this from the beginning there is literally nothing for him to learn.

Like most Austrians I stood on the first pair of skies at age 2-3.

If I told you guys there is nothing to it, you just put them in front of you and head downwards more than half of you would probably land in the next tree.

The thing is I could not tell you either what it is I do exactly, I just do, but how helpful would that be really, if you wanted to learn how to do it?

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[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
Reading Orion’s posts is even worse than reading the nonsense X writes when he tries to argue about nothing.

The “game”? PUA? haha, gimme a break.

But I see how this crap can be attractive to some guys.[/quote]

If you’re reading orion’s posts as an endorsement of PUA tactics, well, that actually does explain most your other posts in other recent threads.

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Well, they are not.

What I read when someone posts how he “games” single mothers or women who desperately want to start a family before its too late is worse than “asshole” it is “lack of game”.

In some circles that is actually the worse insult.

This whole lying, routines(palm reading, yuck), gimmicks (well, sometimes I do carry nonsense around with me), its all nonsense.

The other stuff, working on your boundaries, body language, eye contact, some working model of the female psyche that acually works, those are things any man should know.

Its just that the quest to get laid actually gets guys to learn some of it and field test it.