Let's Talk Game w/ Women

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
<taps foot, still waiting>[/quote]

Not married, but you guys do not make me regret that.

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Okay why?
I have a loving wife, who doubles my income and fulfills me in every way? So I dont get new ass, I have the ass I want at any point I want so if anything you should be envious.

Plus I dont have to play the stupid games or go to bed beating off to porn. [/quote]

Nonsense. You surely got the short end of the stick. haha Yeah right. I’ve seen pictures of your wife. I’d say if you weren’t happy, you’d have to be nuts.
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The thing is though, he is playing these stupid games, he just does not know it, because he always more or less was this way.

Thats like a beast that goes into the gym and deadlifts 250kg on the first try wondering what all this fuss about “plateaus” and “nutrition” is all about.[/quote]

You really think so? Granted it’s the internet but Derek strikes me as being genuinely happily married and about as straight forward as they come. He doesn’t seem like a game player.

Hopefully he took my comment as sarcasm too (not sure if that translated well in text). It was meant to be a compliment.

I don’t know, Orion. It just seems like too much work to me to keep up with that kind of facade.
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Jesus, there are no games.

Look at the forst video I posted, what he does.

DN thinks that it is hilarious that this “stuff” still works.

The point is, he could read from the telephone book and it might work.

Its about his confidence, his vibe and whatnot.

This guy has leaned that because he also posted videos where he crashed like an Italian fighter pilot.

If Derek did all this from the beginning there is literally nothing for him to learn.

Like most Austrians I stood on the first pair of skies at age 2-3.

If I told you guys there is nothing to it, you just put them in front of you and head downwards more than half of you would probably land in the next tree.

The thing is I could not tell you either what it is I do exactly, I just do, but how helpful would that be really, if you wanted to learn how to do it?[/quote]

Do you mean the polish blond one? If that worked with her then she isn’t all that bright. That guy doesn’t strike me as being confident or having a “vibe”. He is just an average guy trying to impress a very gullible and naive young girl…not so difficult or unique.

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[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Derek strikes me as being genuinely happily married and about as straight forward as they come.

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he is, trust me on this~

he’s not, by any stretch of the imagination - trust me on this too~[/quote]
X2

Trust me, too.

Wait… unless this is part of D’s plan? He’s got us all fooled. :([/quote]

that sneaky hillbilly~[/quote]

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
<taps foot, still waiting>[/quote]

Not married, but you guys do not make me regret that.

[/quote]
Okay why?
I have a loving wife, who doubles my income and fulfills me in every way? So I dont get new ass, I have the ass I want at any point I want so if anything you should be envious.

Plus I dont have to play the stupid games or go to bed beating off to porn. [/quote]

Nonsense. You surely got the short end of the stick. haha Yeah right. I’ve seen pictures of your wife. I’d say if you weren’t happy, you’d have to be nuts.
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The thing is though, he is playing these stupid games, he just does not know it, because he always more or less was this way.

Thats like a beast that goes into the gym and deadlifts 250kg on the first try wondering what all this fuss about “plateaus” and “nutrition” is all about.[/quote]

You really think so? Granted it’s the internet but Derek strikes me as being genuinely happily married and about as straight forward as they come. He doesn’t seem like a game player.

Hopefully he took my comment as sarcasm too (not sure if that translated well in text). It was meant to be a compliment.

I don’t know, Orion. It just seems like too much work to me to keep up with that kind of facade.
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Jesus, there are no games.

Look at the forst video I posted, what he does.

DN thinks that it is hilarious that this “stuff” still works.

The point is, he could read from the telephone book and it might work.

Its about his confidence, his vibe and whatnot.

This guy has leaned that because he also posted videos where he crashed like an Italian fighter pilot.

If Derek did all this from the beginning there is literally nothing for him to learn.

Like most Austrians I stood on the first pair of skies at age 2-3.

If I told you guys there is nothing to it, you just put them in front of you and head downwards more than half of you would probably land in the next tree.

The thing is I could not tell you either what it is I do exactly, I just do, but how helpful would that be really, if you wanted to learn how to do it?[/quote]

Do you mean the polish blond one? If that worked with her then she isn’t all that bright. That guy doesn’t strike me as being confident or having a “vibe”. He is just an average guy trying to impress a very gullible and naive young girl…not so difficult or unique.[/quote]

That’s okay, hot girls generally arent too hot to begin with

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Meant to right: hot girls generally aren’t too smart anyway.

Wouldn’t exactly be discussing world politics with the average hot 25 year old

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Do you mean the polish blond one? If that worked with her then she isn’t all that bright. That guy doesn’t strike me as being confident or having a “vibe”. He is just an average guy trying to impress a very gullible and naive young girl…not so difficult or unique.[/quote]

That means all the girls he chats up, which must be in the high hundreds by now.

I dont see what her brains have anything to do with that either, before he could not have landed her, now he can.

Obviously, something has changed.

Obviously, it can be learned.

If that only lands you hot bimbos, most guys would take that, seems to be a useful skill to have, though she did not strike me as an airhead.

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[quote]csulli wrote:
Let me know how much pussy you get by just staring silently.[/quote]

Once. I smirked at a girl that had gotten sprayed with whip cream.

She asked me what I was laughing at. I just reached out and removed whip cream off her face and showed it too her. She started laughing and we made out, eventually leading to sex.

I intentionally never said a word.

She was probably high on X, though.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Let me know how much pussy you get by just staring silently.[/quote]

Once. I smirked at a girl that had gotten sprayed with whip cream.

She asked me what I was laughing at. I just reached out and removed whip cream off her face and showed it too her. She started laughing and we made out, eventually leading to sex.

I intentionally never said a word.

She was probably high on X, though.[/quote]

Ladies and gentlemen, a natural.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:
Orion is a man well versed in the game, this is all the stuff that I have been reading about and trying to do. But god dam its hard as fuck to implement into the real world.
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No, it is not, that is all in your head.

if you are just an average guy, you will probably get three invitations a week.

Seriously.

You just dont notice it.

Get a bit into body language and at least believe that for some women you are the hot stuff and you will notice it.

The thing is that women are so much better at that stuff that they are almost dry humping you from their perspective and you just dont get it.

A girl has her pride, you know?

If you have just the slightest inclination that yes, she means you, go for it.

But, go for it with a specific mindset, the USS Opheta will not go under with a dire “blub” or with her captain wailing, oh no, she will strikeout with all her guns firng and her banner flapping proudly in the wind.

Cause, if you strike out, strike out spectacularly.

Like a boss. [/quote]

Body Language man, its hard to read it properly.
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Courses man, its easy to enroll in them [/quote]

A course in body language, they really have those?

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[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:
Orion is a man well versed in the game, this is all the stuff that I have been reading about and trying to do. But god dam its hard as fuck to implement into the real world.
[/quote]

No, it is not, that is all in your head.

if you are just an average guy, you will probably get three invitations a week.

Seriously.

You just dont notice it.

Get a bit into body language and at least believe that for some women you are the hot stuff and you will notice it.

The thing is that women are so much better at that stuff that they are almost dry humping you from their perspective and you just dont get it.

A girl has her pride, you know?

If you have just the slightest inclination that yes, she means you, go for it.

But, go for it with a specific mindset, the USS Opheta will not go under with a dire “blub” or with her captain wailing, oh no, she will strikeout with all her guns firng and her banner flapping proudly in the wind.

Cause, if you strike out, strike out spectacularly.

Like a boss. [/quote]

Body Language man, its hard to read it properly.
[/quote]

Courses man, its easy to enroll in them [/quote]

A course in body language, they really have those?[/quote]

Yeah?

And there are, like, books and, like, videos, even on youtube and stuff?

I feel like this is a trick question.

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[quote]orion wrote:

Courses man, its easy to enroll in them [/quote]

A course in body language, they really have those?[/quote]

Yeah?

And there are, like, books and, like, videos, even on youtube and stuff?

I feel like this is a trick question. [/quote]

Haha no I thought, you ment like a actual college course in the study of body language.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Do you mean the polish blond one? If that worked with her then she isn’t all that bright. That guy doesn’t strike me as being confident or having a “vibe”. He is just an average guy trying to impress a very gullible and naive young girl…not so difficult or unique.[/quote]

That means all the girls he chats up, which must be in the high hundreds by now.

I dont see what her brains have anything to do with that either, before he could not have landed her, now he can.

Obviously, something has changed.

Obviously, it can be learned.

If that only lands you hot bimbos, most guys would take that, seems to be a useful skill to have, though she did not strike me as an airhead.

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Okay. Whatever does it for you. Who am I to judge?

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Do you mean the polish blond one? If that worked with her then she isn’t all that bright. That guy doesn’t strike me as being confident or having a “vibe”. He is just an average guy trying to impress a very gullible and naive young girl…not so difficult or unique.[/quote]

That means all the girls he chats up, which must be in the high hundreds by now.

I dont see what her brains have anything to do with that either, before he could not have landed her, now he can.

Obviously, something has changed.

Obviously, it can be learned.

If that only lands you hot bimbos, most guys would take that, seems to be a useful skill to have, though she did not strike me as an airhead.

[/quote]

Okay. Whatever does it for you. Who am I to judge?
[/quote]

No.

Will you at least admit that he learned something that is not even in the reality of most guys, like stopping an attractive woman on the street, have her laughing and twirling her hair in 3 minutes or less and get her contact information?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Do you mean the polish blond one? If that worked with her then she isn’t all that bright. That guy doesn’t strike me as being confident or having a “vibe”. He is just an average guy trying to impress a very gullible and naive young girl…not so difficult or unique.[/quote]

That means all the girls he chats up, which must be in the high hundreds by now.

I dont see what her brains have anything to do with that either, before he could not have landed her, now he can.

Obviously, something has changed.

Obviously, it can be learned.

If that only lands you hot bimbos, most guys would take that, seems to be a useful skill to have, though she did not strike me as an airhead.

[/quote]

Okay. Whatever does it for you. Who am I to judge?
[/quote]

No.

Will you at least admit that he learned something that is not even in the reality of most guys, like stopping an attractive woman on the street, have her laughing and twirling her hair in 3 minutes or less and get her contact information?

[/quote]

No. lol You can see that at any club on a Friday or Saturday night. I wouldn’t consider a hair twirl to be a measure of success.

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Do you mean the polish blond one? If that worked with her then she isn’t all that bright. That guy doesn’t strike me as being confident or having a “vibe”. He is just an average guy trying to impress a very gullible and naive young girl…not so difficult or unique.[/quote]

That means all the girls he chats up, which must be in the high hundreds by now.

I dont see what her brains have anything to do with that either, before he could not have landed her, now he can.

Obviously, something has changed.

Obviously, it can be learned.

If that only lands you hot bimbos, most guys would take that, seems to be a useful skill to have, though she did not strike me as an airhead.

[/quote]

Okay. Whatever does it for you. Who am I to judge?
[/quote]

No.

Will you at least admit that he learned something that is not even in the reality of most guys, like stopping an attractive woman on the street, have her laughing and twirling her hair in 3 minutes or less and get her contact information?

[/quote]

No. lol You can see that at any club on a Friday or Saturday night. I wouldn’t consider a hair twirl to be a measure of success.[/quote]

The success is getting access to her life to be able to work it from there.

The hair twirl, especially the way she does it is a major indicator of interest.

He had her from cold to hooked in 3 minutes !?!

Apparently that is not part of your reality.

Also, in a club, most guys could not do it either.

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

No. lol You can see that at any club on a Friday or Saturday night. I wouldn’t consider a hair twirl to be a measure of success.[/quote]

Most guys at clubs DO NOT approach random women, sure it may seem like every guy there is hitting on you but in reality its only a small amount of guys that are doing it.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Do you mean the polish blond one? If that worked with her then she isn’t all that bright. That guy doesn’t strike me as being confident or having a “vibe”. He is just an average guy trying to impress a very gullible and naive young girl…not so difficult or unique.[/quote]

That means all the girls he chats up, which must be in the high hundreds by now.

I dont see what her brains have anything to do with that either, before he could not have landed her, now he can.

Obviously, something has changed.

Obviously, it can be learned.

If that only lands you hot bimbos, most guys would take that, seems to be a useful skill to have, though she did not strike me as an airhead.

[/quote]

Okay. Whatever does it for you. Who am I to judge?
[/quote]

No.

Will you at least admit that he learned something that is not even in the reality of most guys, like stopping an attractive woman on the street, have her laughing and twirling her hair in 3 minutes or less and get her contact information?

[/quote]

No. lol You can see that at any club on a Friday or Saturday night. I wouldn’t consider a hair twirl to be a measure of success.[/quote]

The success is getting access to her life to be able to work it from there.

The hair twirl, especially the way she does it is a major indicator of interest.

He had her from cold to hooked in 3 minutes !?!

Apparently that is not part of your reality.

Also, in a club, most guys could not do it either. [/quote]

Enough about the hair twirling. She was tugging on her locks before he stopped her. Check for yourself.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

Enough about the hair twirling. She was tugging on her locks before he stopped her. Check for yourself.[/quote]

Sometimes I get women on an emotional level.

When I watch a woman practically jumping a guy and he is still oblivious, that is when it mostly happens.

I feel the same feelings of unbelief and embarrassment, the WTF!?! is sometimes strong.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Enough about the hair twirling. She was tugging on her locks before he stopped her. Check for yourself.[/quote]

Sometimes I get women on an emotional level.

When I watch a woman practically jumping a guy and he is still oblivious, that is when it mostly happens.

I feel the same feelings of unbelief and embarrassment, the WTF!?! is sometimes strong.

[/quote]

Seriously? You post a vid of a PUA supposedly manipulating a woman into playing with her hair in under three minutes, miss the fact that she was doing that before the guy opened his mouth, and when I point it out your response is that you get women on an emotional level?

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[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:
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make them feel like they are the only thing in the world.
…
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Thats certainly not the view of most PUA material.[/quote]

rite - they have this idea that you insult the girl, then ignore her.

that has NEVER EVER, NOT ONE FUCKING TIME ever worked for this Viking…[/quote]

No, the things I posted was an example of push-pull

Say she is probably a stripper, than pull her back in by imlying that her legs are nice.

Stuff like that

You have to push her away and reel her back in, preferably in a way that makes them laugh.

Its an emotional rollercoaster, which they enjoy and they start to trust, if you can pull her back in.

Its like, you can only throw a small girl in the air if she is perfectly assured that you will catch her again.

They loved it then, they love it now.

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All the hate towards PUA techniques, its confirmed. T-Nation full of Good Looking AFC’s and the women who go after them as well.