Let's Talk Game w/ Women

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Make no mistake, looking like Gael GarcÃ???Ã??Ã?­a Bernal will be of more service to you in picking up women than any strategy that could ever be cough cleverly marketed. If you look like more like Carlos Slim, then you’d better have his money, because no “Game” on earth is going to help. [/quote]

Oh yes it will.

My brother is around 150 kg, also nearly 2 m tall, which helps I guess, but he pulls more women than an entire football team.

Well, almost.

If you dont believe that, if you are ever in London contact a guy named Yash (?) or Krauser PUA, you can google that and pay them to demonstrate it.

You will come out of this a changes man, your whole reality opens up when you see what actually is possible for a pudgy guy unshaved guy with a T-shirt and shoes that look like they come from a second hand store.

[/quote]

You’re probably right., now that I think about it. I have lost perspective.

In Japan, having “Game” meaning being white, male and Western. I’ve seen unfamous Danny DeVitos here walking around with 10s.

I happen to be good looking AND I have money. And Japanese girls are NOT shy about letting Western guys know how they feel about them. I go through life on a pretty much constant ego high.

*edited typo[/quote]

That is usually because asian women are brought up to respect men and/or worship them?

Plus western men on average will have a bigger dick…

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Call me old fashioned, but i’ve always believed that if you start a relationship by deliberately manipulating your partner’s emotions and she is easily manipulable, it’s probably not a relationship worth much of a damn anyway.

I never had any problem with the tried and true method: Take pride in who you are, be confident, be genuinely interested in her, and pay attention to details. If I thought for a second she was following some formula to try and get me to react in a certain manner, I’d kick her ass to the curb forthwith. [/quote]

God yes. This, this! ^^

Same goes for women. If you have to play stupid games to get him, he is not going to be worth having. As orion points out, you will have to continue playing games into perpetuity, if you can even keep him. He is likely to wander off with the next woman who is cooly aloof but - wait, there’s the look-up-from-under-the-lashes-and-then-touch-her-hair thing! Maybe not so aloof after all! It’s dumb, yo.

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Well, there is playing games and there is playing games.

There is that shit that women do, like your example above, which is just stupid.

But what they all do is testing you constantly, at least in the beginning, they cannot help it.

However, you can tell a lot about the quality of a woman by looking at how she does it.

So in one way it is simply a biological necessity which must be dealt with but you can tell which women are utter cunts from the getgo which helps tremendously.

With others it is light hearted and fun, though still with a dead serious undercurrent, and those are the ones I like.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

I happen to be good looking AND I have money…
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And modest, too. Don’t forget modest.

lol

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wear this shit

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k

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
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damn image didn’t work

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Make no mistake, looking like Gael GarcÃ???Ã??Ã?­a Bernal will be of more service to you in picking up women than any strategy that could ever be cough cleverly marketed. If you look like more like Carlos Slim, then you’d better have his money, because no “Game” on earth is going to help. [/quote]

Oh yes it will.

My brother is around 150 kg, also nearly 2 m tall, which helps I guess, but he pulls more women than an entire football team.

Well, almost.

If you dont believe that, if you are ever in London contact a guy named Yash (?) or Krauser PUA, you can google that and pay them to demonstrate it.

You will come out of this a changes man, your whole reality opens up when you see what actually is possible for a pudgy guy unshaved guy with a T-shirt and shoes that look like they come from a second hand store.

[/quote]

You’re probably right., now that I think about it. I have lost perspective.

In Japan, having “Game” meaning being white, male and Western. I’ve seen unfamous Danny DeVitos here walking around with 10s.

I happen to be good looking AND I have money. And Japanese girls are NOT shy about letting Western guys know how they feel about them. I go through life on a pretty much constant ego high.

*edited typo[/quote]

hmm japan is looking more interesting. Are most of these women looking for a western husband or just DTF?

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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

I happen to be good looking AND I have money…
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And modest, too. Don’t forget modest.

lol
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Modesty is bad.

Self delusion and narcissim are great for getting laid.

The guy I always think of who emulates these characteristic so greatly is Usain Bolt. Watch any interview of him and you’ll know what I’m talking about

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Make no mistake, looking like Gael GarcÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?­a Bernal will be of more service to you in picking up women than any strategy that could ever be cough cleverly marketed. If you look like more like Carlos Slim, then you’d better have his money, because no “Game” on earth is going to help. [/quote]

Oh yes it will.

My brother is around 150 kg, also nearly 2 m tall, which helps I guess, but he pulls more women than an entire football team.

Well, almost.

If you dont believe that, if you are ever in London contact a guy named Yash (?) or Krauser PUA, you can google that and pay them to demonstrate it.

You will come out of this a changes man, your whole reality opens up when you see what actually is possible for a pudgy guy unshaved guy with a T-shirt and shoes that look like they come from a second hand store.

[/quote]

You’re probably right., now that I think about it. I have lost perspective.

In Japan, having “Game” meaning being white, male and Western. I’ve seen unfamous Danny DeVitos here walking around with 10s.

I happen to be good looking AND I have money. And Japanese girls are NOT shy about letting Western guys know how they feel about them. I go through life on a pretty much constant ego high.

*edited typo[/quote]

hmm japan is looking more interesting. Are most of these women looking for a western husband or just DTF?
[/quote]

Does it matter?

The confidence boost from being treated like a demi God for even one week should be enough to justify the plane ticket.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Make no mistake, looking like Gael GarcÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?­a Bernal will be of more service to you in picking up women than any strategy that could ever be cough cleverly marketed. If you look like more like Carlos Slim, then you’d better have his money, because no “Game” on earth is going to help. [/quote]

Oh yes it will.

My brother is around 150 kg, also nearly 2 m tall, which helps I guess, but he pulls more women than an entire football team.

Well, almost.

If you dont believe that, if you are ever in London contact a guy named Yash (?) or Krauser PUA, you can google that and pay them to demonstrate it.

You will come out of this a changes man, your whole reality opens up when you see what actually is possible for a pudgy guy unshaved guy with a T-shirt and shoes that look like they come from a second hand store.

[/quote]

You’re probably right., now that I think about it. I have lost perspective.

In Japan, having “Game” meaning being white, male and Western. I’ve seen unfamous Danny DeVitos here walking around with 10s.

I happen to be good looking AND I have money. And Japanese girls are NOT shy about letting Western guys know how they feel about them. I go through life on a pretty much constant ego high.

*edited typo[/quote]

hmm japan is looking more interesting. Are most of these women looking for a western husband or just DTF?
[/quote]

Does it matter?

The confidence boost from being treated like a demi God for even one week should be enough to justify the plane ticket. [/quote]

lol, plenty of hot women in the good ol usa!

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Make no mistake, looking like Gael GarcÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?­a Bernal will be of more service to you in picking up women than any strategy that could ever be cough cleverly marketed. If you look like more like Carlos Slim, then you’d better have his money, because no “Game” on earth is going to help. [/quote]

Oh yes it will.

My brother is around 150 kg, also nearly 2 m tall, which helps I guess, but he pulls more women than an entire football team.

Well, almost.

If you dont believe that, if you are ever in London contact a guy named Yash (?) or Krauser PUA, you can google that and pay them to demonstrate it.

You will come out of this a changes man, your whole reality opens up when you see what actually is possible for a pudgy guy unshaved guy with a T-shirt and shoes that look like they come from a second hand store.

[/quote]

You’re probably right., now that I think about it. I have lost perspective.

In Japan, having “Game” meaning being white, male and Western. I’ve seen unfamous Danny DeVitos here walking around with 10s.

I happen to be good looking AND I have money. And Japanese girls are NOT shy about letting Western guys know how they feel about them. I go through life on a pretty much constant ego high.

*edited typo[/quote]

hmm japan is looking more interesting. Are most of these women looking for a western husband or just DTF?
[/quote]

Does it matter?

The confidence boost from being treated like a demi God for even one week should be enough to justify the plane ticket. [/quote]

lol, plenty of hot women in the good ol usa!
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Do they treat you like a demi God?

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

This is pretty sad. Some guys can get want they want pretty easily and the other one are bitter about it. I thought I was on one side and it seems I have always been on the other. I am one of those guy that can ask and get. I am not happier on this side, mainly because I have a hormone problem from space, so I don’t see the point in doing it.

I don’t think this would make me very happy in the long run if I did it and I didn’t have this problem. I could do it for my ego. I don’t think this is a good thing either because the bigger ego you have the higher you can fall from. It leads to suffering.

Anyway I don’t think doing this kind of stuff is the goal in life. It is weak and pointless. I will probably do it someday given that I am weak like everyone.

I think the answer is to keep your seed to yourself and cultivate your sexual energy in more productive ways. Most guys have no idea how more energetic and happier they would feel[/quote]

All I have been working on as of late is finding my own path through life. Rather than viewing societies lens of “You must find a SO/get married to be normal”

I have finally found a bit of happiness being alone(this is not the same as lonely) for once in my life.

It’s called “sexual transmutation” and I have used it to find new hobbies and interests, and double down on things I enjoy most like work, gym, friends and family.

I am at the point where if I meet an amazing woman that’s fine, and If I’m a bachelor for life I’m happy as well(at least for now). But I’m basically done pursuing every piece of ass there is on every single weekend.

I still like to drink a bit too much though. Although I’m not nearly as bad about alcohol when the main focus of my life was women.

Anyways, you’re right. I am a guy who would never get laid just sitting around playing cool (i.e. being myself) so I had to switch things up. When I directly seek it, pussy flows like water(well, the 5-7 range). So there’s 2 things that happen

  1. Meet women only under the intention of having a quick fuck, and then not wanting to know their name/get their number/see their face in the morning.
  2. Get emotionally attached to a woman you have seduced under some alter-persona that is not you and will soon come to light in a real relationship.

Both resulted in the same thing for me: a vapid, manipulative, emotionally stressful, depressing, unhappy existence.

It became the source of some great unhappiness for me.

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[quote]csulli wrote:
No game whatsoever. I’ve gotten all my ladies pretty much through looks alone.[/quote]

This was always my plan… Hasn’t worked out so great yet. Back to the gym lol

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[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Goodfellow wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:
Im curious how many guys on T-Nation got Game when it comes to women? Were you a natural or did you read up on it and learn it through going out alot and getting better?

And how many of you got no game and just sort of fell into your relationship or whatever you have at the moment?

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I’ve only been single over the past couple of months (before that I was in a 5 year relationship and before that I was a shut in) but I’ve started to come to the conclusion that the more I avoid girls when I go out, the more they want to talk to me (and grope me)? I’ve LET girls give me their phone numbers over the past 3 weeks just so I don’t feel bad about completely shutting them down.

Also, is it just me or is everyone a total ho-bag and just has one-night stands every other weekend? [/quote]

You must be a brad pitt looking motherfucker, if you get numbers by ignoring them completely.
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Well I don’t know about that but my mum says I’m a handsome young man.

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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

I happen to be good looking AND I have money…
[/quote]

And modest, too. Don’t forget modest.

lol
[/quote]

Modesty is for the moderate.

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muscles.
confidence.
sense of humor.
attention/eye contact.
make them feel like they are the only thing in the world.
and copious amounts of alcohol.
this is my game.
oh yes.

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Orion serious question…Where do your views about women come from? Why do you seem to have such an issue with women?

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[quote]E901 wrote:
Orion serious question…Where do your views about women come from? Why do you seem to have such an issue with women?[/quote]

I do not necessarily have an issue with women.

If you want to know my stance, by todays standards I am completely sexist for mainly true reasons:

  1. I believe that men and women are fundamentally different, for sound biological reasons.

  2. I believe that women, measured by the same standards I judge the worth of men, are inferior.

BUT

I am more than willing to admit that by the standards women judge other womens worth I probably suck donkey balls.

That means that I do not expect loyalty from a woman, I do not expect fidelity and I do expect a constant low level power struggle and the ubiqitous lying. Actually, the lying is rare with me, it still pisses me off.

I do believe that men and women are not opposite, but complementary sexes and that if a man and a woman build a level of trust that makes that possible, magic happens if their work their respective strenghts for the good of them both.

However, with the normal westernized woman that is too great a risk. The sense of entitlement, the total lack of female virtues while she practically gushes even at the sight of even a rough facsimile of male virtues, the utter feminization of society, the female narative as almost religious dogma, marriage laws in theory and their execution, women that proudly proclaim “that they do not need men” while sponging off of men both via the government and in their personal lives…

MEN WHO CANNOT FAP IN THEIR OWN HOMES!!!

Either these spoiled and delusional princesses put on their big girl pants and take their share of the responsibility along with the “rights” or this whole house of cards will come down and they will have all the time in the world to complain about REAL patriarchy.

After the washing.

And the cooking.

And the cleaning, sewing and looking pretty.

Cant say I look forward to that, but backlashes tend to be overcorrections.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]E901 wrote:
Orion serious question…Where do your views about women come from? Why do you seem to have such an issue with women?[/quote]

I do not necessarily have an issue with women.

If you want to know my stance, by todays standards I am completely sexist for mainly true reasons:

  1. I believe that men and women are fundamentally different, for sound biological reasons.

  2. I believe that women, measured by the same standards I judge the worth of men, are inferior.

BUT

I am more than willing to admit that by the standards women judge other womens worth I probably suck donkey balls.

That means that I do not expect loyalty from a woman, I do not expect fidelity and I do expect a constant low level power struggle and the ubiqitous lying. Actually, the lying is rare with me, it still pisses me off.

I do believe that men and women are not opposite, but complementary sexes and that if a man and a woman build a level of trust that makes that possible, magic happens if their work their respective strenghts for the good of them both.

However, with the normal westernized woman that is too great a risk. The sense of entitlement, the total lack of female virtues while she practically gushes even at the sight of even a rough facsimile of male virtues, the utter feminization of society, the female narative as almost religious dogma, marriage laws in theory and their execution, women that proudly proclaim “that they do not need men” while sponging off of men both via the government and in their personal lives…

MEN WHO CANNOT FAP IN THEIR OWN HOMES!!!

Either these spoiled and delusional princesses put on their big girl pants and take their share of the responsibility along with the “rights” or this whole house of cards will come down and they will have all the time in the world to complain about REAL patriarchy.

After the washing.

And the cooking.

And the cleaning, sewing and looking pretty.

Cant say I look forward to that, but backlashes tend to be overcorrections. [/quote]

Interesting opinion. When you say “inferior” are you mostly referring to the loyalty, lying, etc that you mentioned? How exactly do you judge the worth of men?

Also can’t it be possible for a man and woman to split the roles evenly in a relationship rather than men being masculine and women always being feminine?

(btw I’m 19 and have zero relationship experience so I’m just wondering)

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[quote]E901 wrote:

Interesting opinion. When you say “inferior” are you mostly referring to the loyalty, lying, etc that you mentioned? How exactly do you judge the worth of men?

Also can’t it be possible for a man and woman to split the roles evenly in a relationship rather than men being masculine and women always being feminine?

(btw I’m 19 and have zero relationship experience so I’m just wondering)[/quote]

Yes, that is mostly what I am referring to, which should give you an idea what I value in a man:

When his word is his bond.

When he stands by you if shit hits the fan.

If his yes is a yes and his no is a no.

Then, no that is not possible. If you try that you will be automatically be beneath the woman because you play by her rules.

This pseudo equality and consent game is played by women amongst themselves and you cannot compete in this bitchfest.

But you do not have to believe me anything. You may have noticed that women hate it if you ask them where to go out to. Seems logical, you want her to have fun, so you find out what she likes and do it.

They hate that.

Tell her friday at 1800 and what to wear and have a plan.

See what happens.

Lead her, take her arm and take her to teh next location and see what happens.

Never, ever, ask, but try to take if she seems interested and see what happens.

And by “take” I mean not only the first kiss but also her bunghole, try to do every perverted shit you can think of.

She might not do it, at least not at first, but she will respect you for it (yeah, I know).

Try again later.

If she does not want to suck your dick, dont beg, just tell her if she does not do it you will find someone who will.

I did that.

She did not do it right away, because she is not a slut (seriously, she is not) but I woke up the very same night from some very pleasurable sensations.

Now, why do I want you to try that for yourself?

Because if you do and you see that it works and you see that this is exactly what they need deep down inside and are whorshipping you for it, it clicks in your head and you never go back.

You might relapse every now and then, especially in LTRs, but if your first impression was strong you can afford that.

If I hear “at first I thought you were an asshole, BUT…”, I get an automatic boner.

Yeah its that bad and yeah, its that predictable.

Dont waste your 20s man.

Just dont.