Let's Talk Game w/ Women

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Anything else is fine but with generic fit chick you lose your mojo?[/quote]

I shit you not. Not “generic”, but those 20-somethings that look like they come straight out of a hip hop video or a Miami Dolphin Cheerleaders poster.
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Yes.

Generic.

Not sure if this is the thread to post this, but lately I’ve been playing the game of “can I reel her in,” even though I have no intention of doing anything with her.

I think I’ve been doing this because I have played the field a bit, but am getting married.

Case in point a trainer girl in a gym I visit in a town where I don’t live — but have house because I have rigs in the area and don’t want to make the drive.

Cute blond, very fit, married to a guy she supports.

Anyway, she’s approached me every time I come in to chat, wants to “do legs together” commented on my legs, wants to “bulk get muscles like me” etc. Shows off and copies things I do – e.g., squating without shoes.

I knew she was “in” because — other than the body language — she started talking about how she loves to go the VFW bar and hang out.*

Now, I am a member of the VFW and have been this particular one time, mainly because its full of old professionally drunk men reliving Korean war and cigarrete smoke. But she saw my license plates (bronze star) and commented on them. So, I presume she knows I am a vet, and to her (early 20s) that’s where vets go and hang out.

It’s also dark, you have to be a member of the VFW to get in, so if you want to run around on someone who is not a VFW (e.g., her husband), it’s a great bar to go to.

I’ve been playing her along, and she’s eager.

All it would take is a “hey, let’s go to the VFW”

Curious if other guys reel in girls like this without intention of closing the deal, or if I am just a freak.

  • There are about 20 other things she’s done that add up to make it clear she wants to get verticle. For example, I was pushing a prowler without a shirt and she came out and took pictures and then wanted a picture with me “for Facebook.” Others: asking “what about me” after I hugged the old lady whose been working the desk for 5 years and was leaving. Commenting on my arms/legs/chest. Etc.

[quote]Brant2 wrote:
The whole thing spins around availability, I guess. I live in a city where there are 8 girls to EVERY dude, and women has come fairly easy to me my whole life, so I never had to break a sweat to have a 7-8/10 around. But then it comes to 9+, and I have to carve my way in, I stall.[/quote]

Well, there’s a few options here. One is to go to somewhere where the ratio is more like 1:1 or worse, and practice there. Figure that one out, and you’ll be better for it.

Another is to be happy with 7-8s. Most guys in most places wouldn’t be complaining.

Yet another is to find a way to surround yourself with 9+'s, and get yourself comfortable and relaxed in their presence. Strip clubs, on weekends, tend to be filled with a handful of quite-a-bit-above-average girls. Not sure how it is in Rio, but that’s an option. Don’t waste your money there, but just get yourself past the point where you’re intimidated.

That being said, I envy your situation.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

Curious if other guys reel in girls like this without intention of closing the deal, or if I am just a freak.
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No, but different guys do it for different reasons.

[quote]LoRez wrote:

Another is to be happy with 7-8s. Most guys in most places wouldn’t be complaining.

That being said, I envy your situation.[/quote]

THAT is the problem. Imagine walking into a club with a 8/10 or whatever, and seeing all your homeys getting APPROACHED by 9+s? It’s maddening. This is why most guys here can’t keep a LTR going. Granted, some times they just want some free drinks and a lot of attention, but who doesn’t want to have that opportunity to bang a chick like that?

There’s a down side though, now picture going to a club where there’s like 20 dudes altogether, but 2 of them are national soccer stars? There’s no way in hell I can compete with that money man, I play fucking FOOTBALL and have a part time job - a 20 buck drink for a chick that might not fuck me all of a sudden does not seem like the best idea.

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

Another is to be happy with 7-8s. Most guys in most places wouldn’t be complaining.

That being said, I envy your situation.[/quote]

THAT is the problem. Imagine walking into a club with a 8/10 or whatever, and seeing all your homeys getting APPROACHED by 9+s? [/quote]

in what reality is this happening?

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Not sure if this is the thread to post this, but lately I’ve been playing the game of “can I reel her in,” even though I have no intention of doing anything with her.

I think I’ve been doing this because I have played the field a bit, but am getting married.

Case in point a trainer girl in a gym I visit in a town where I don’t live — but have house because I have rigs in the area and don’t want to make the drive.

Cute blond, very fit, married to a guy she supports.

Anyway, she’s approached me every time I come in to chat, wants to “do legs together” commented on my legs, wants to “bulk get muscles like me” etc. Shows off and copies things I do – e.g., squating without shoes.

I knew she was “in” because — other than the body language — she started talking about how she loves to go the VFW bar and hang out.*

Now, I am a member of the VFW and have been this particular one time, mainly because its full of old professionally drunk men reliving Korean war and cigarrete smoke. But she saw my license plates (bronze star) and commented on them. So, I presume she knows I am a vet, and to her (early 20s) that’s where vets go and hang out.

It’s also dark, you have to be a member of the VFW to get in, so if you want to run around on someone who is not a VFW (e.g., her husband), it’s a great bar to go to.

I’ve been playing her along, and she’s eager.

All it would take is a “hey, let’s go to the VFW”

Curious if other guys reel in girls like this without intention of closing the deal, or if I am just a freak.

  • There are about 20 other things she’s done that add up to make it clear she wants to get verticle. For example, I was pushing a prowler without a shirt and she came out and took pictures and then wanted a picture with me “for Facebook.” Others: asking “what about me” after I hugged the old lady whose been working the desk for 5 years and was leaving. Commenting on my arms/legs/chest. Etc.[/quote]

No, but I had a peripheral friend who just absolutely loved to flirt with and tease girls without any intention of closing. Heck, he couldn’t even help it.

[quote]Brant2 wrote:
Imagine walking into a club with a 8/10 or whatever, and seeing all your homeys getting APPROACHED by 9+s?[/quote]

How many of your ‘homeys’ go home with these 9+s? Any of them? Which guys do they go home with?

What are they doing different that you aren’t? (Besides the ones who are genuine celebrities.)

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

Another is to be happy with 7-8s. Most guys in most places wouldn’t be complaining.

That being said, I envy your situation.[/quote]

THAT is the problem. Imagine walking into a club with a 8/10 or whatever, and seeing all your homeys getting APPROACHED by 9+s? [/quote]

in what reality is this happening?[/quote]

If you scale down the numbers by 1-1.5… maybe even 2 points, I’ve seen this happen in a few places, at least where the girls do outnumber the guys 4+ to 1. Some colleges have really weird gender proportions. The girls get really competitive and go all out to make themselves into 8+s.

[quote]LoRez wrote:

How many of your ‘homeys’ go home with these 9+s? Any of them? Which guys do they go home with?

What are they doing different that you aren’t? (Besides the ones who are genuine celebrities.)[/quote]

Well, walking in with a dick in their hands instead of a girl usually clears up the way. I’m not really into clubs, so when I can take a girl with me so at least she has some drinks and it’s looser by the end of the night. They don’t do nothing man, they just stand there or walk around, and eventually one will come and start a conversation or just make it clear that she wants you to talk to her.

And Orion, don’t hate man! We have girls… and that’s pretty much it. There really isn’t anything else to brag about in this bitch.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Curious if other guys reel in girls like this without intention of closing the deal, or if I am just a freak.[/quote]

Yes, but I haven’t done it for awhile. I was trying to make a LTR work for the past few years, so I laid off it for the most part. Looking back on it, I have no idea how I pulled that off. Even during college – an engineering school that was 10:1 guys to girls – I had a couple girls like that. I was a nobody.

But yes, there’s a lot of fun to be had just in maintaining and drawing out that sexual tension. I’ve enjoyed doing it.

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

How many of your ‘homeys’ go home with these 9+s? Any of them? Which guys do they go home with?

What are they doing different that you aren’t? (Besides the ones who are genuine celebrities.)[/quote]

Well, walking in with a dick in their hands instead of a girl usually clears up the way. […] They don’t do nothing man, they just stand there or walk around, and eventually one will come and start a conversation or just make it clear that she wants you to talk to her.[/quote]

I think you have your answer then.

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

My whole point is when a chick like her (hot, gym rat, nice going) comes around, I find myself picking the way I should approach them, do you get my point? That’s not the case with regular chicks, or even hot chicks that show beforehand they’re attracted to me - this happens not just with me, but with every single guy here, A LOT.
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That’s not that hard to figure out. You wanted this girl for years and she was always unavailable, which gave you plenty of time to put her on a pedestal and want for her without being able to have her. I’ve found that if I’m single and looking and I made an attractive woman, it’s best to open up the potential for picking her up right away, the longer I wait to do it, the more I will think about how attractive she is and start giving her all these imaginary attributes and psyche myself out. That doesn’t mean I don’t eventually ask her out, but usually by the time I do my game isn’t on point bc I’ve created some backstory in my head that she’s a sweet girl and blah blah, thus I don’t approach her like I do every other woman, which is as a vagina with a mouth.

TL;DR I’d say you have a lot more confidence in hitting on women you’ve just met or who approach you, but are objectifying these other women and fucking up your confidence.

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

How many of your ‘homeys’ go home with these 9+s? Any of them? Which guys do they go home with?

What are they doing different that you aren’t? (Besides the ones who are genuine celebrities.)[/quote]

Well, walking in with a dick in their hands instead of a girl usually clears up the way. I’m not really into clubs, so when I can take a girl with me so at least she has some drinks and it’s looser by the end of the night. They don’t do nothing man, they just stand there or walk around, and eventually one will come and start a conversation or just make it clear that she wants you to talk to her.

And Orion, don’t hate man! We have girls… and that’s pretty much it. There really isn’t anything else to brag about in this bitch.[/quote]
PICS OF BRAZILIAN WOMEN, YOU BASTARD!!

[quote]Lanfair wrote:

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

My whole point is when a chick like her (hot, gym rat, nice going) comes around, I find myself picking the way I should approach them, do you get my point? That’s not the case with regular chicks, or even hot chicks that show beforehand they’re attracted to me - this happens not just with me, but with every single guy here, A LOT.
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That’s not that hard to figure out. You wanted this girl for years and she was always unavailable, which gave you plenty of time to put her on a pedestal and want for her without being able to have her. I’ve found that if I’m single and looking and I made an attractive woman, it’s best to open up the potential for picking her up right away, the longer I wait to do it, the more I will think about how attractive she is and start giving her all these imaginary attributes and psyche myself out. That doesn’t mean I don’t eventually ask her out, but usually by the time I do my game isn’t on point bc I’ve created some backstory in my head that she’s a sweet girl and blah blah, thus I don’t approach her like I do every other woman, which is as a vagina with a mouth.

TL;DR I’d say you have a lot more confidence in hitting on women you’ve just met or who approach you, but are objectifying these other women and fucking up your confidence.[/quote]

THIS.

You just made perfect sense. I have also felt like this several times but somehow never actually do it.

imhungry,
I’m starting off with the chick I previously mentioned. She’s the brunette.

hmmmm

[quote]Nutso wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Yeah.

Take notes, because this will end as a clusterfuck.

Might as well have solid log so you dont do that more than once.
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And I am fully prepared for this possible clusterfuck. At least I can come to peace with it if it comes to that.[/quote]

Well, here’s an update…

Talked to her couple hours ago. I had all these preparations on how to break it to her about her BPD. Well when I first saw her, all these preparations went out the window, and I just talked from my heart about what happened between us recently. She acknowledged that it was both of us that caused this clusterfuck. She wants to go back to being friends, and just focus on herself as she had all these problems pop up for the past couple weeks. I could see that she was shutting down when I asked about us.

So she put me on backburner. Well, I asked for this clusterfuck and I got it.

NEXT!

[quote]debraD wrote:

hmmmm[/quote]

I’ve seen stuff like this before. I once read a study showing that children look more like their father than their mother so the father know its his and thus be more inclined to look after them.

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

[quote]Lanfair wrote:

[quote]Brant2 wrote:

My whole point is when a chick like her (hot, gym rat, nice going) comes around, I find myself picking the way I should approach them, do you get my point? That’s not the case with regular chicks, or even hot chicks that show beforehand they’re attracted to me - this happens not just with me, but with every single guy here, A LOT.
[/quote]

That’s not that hard to figure out. You wanted this girl for years and she was always unavailable, which gave you plenty of time to put her on a pedestal and want for her without being able to have her. I’ve found that if I’m single and looking and I made an attractive woman, it’s best to open up the potential for picking her up right away, the longer I wait to do it, the more I will think about how attractive she is and start giving her all these imaginary attributes and psyche myself out. That doesn’t mean I don’t eventually ask her out, but usually by the time I do my game isn’t on point bc I’ve created some backstory in my head that she’s a sweet girl and blah blah, thus I don’t approach her like I do every other woman, which is as a vagina with a mouth.

TL;DR I’d say you have a lot more confidence in hitting on women you’ve just met or who approach you, but are objectifying these other women and fucking up your confidence.[/quote]

THIS.

You just made perfect sense. I have also felt like this several times but somehow never actually do it.

imhungry,
I’m starting off with the chick I previously mentioned. She’s the brunette.
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That pic looks like it’s from the 70’s. :slight_smile:

They both look cute.

And, thanks! Brazil is on my bucket list for places to visit.