Let's Talk Game w/ Women

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number 4…

meh…

number 6…

Noooooooooooooooooooo…

Just no.

You became a cuddle bitch.

Also, escalate MOAR!

There is no such thing as “she is not ready yet” but there is such a thing as “I am not ready yet with you, convince me otherwise”.

What is the worst that could have happened, you would have struck out sooner?

It is the whole, “I will not risk what I already have stuff”, well, you must, because in reality you do not have shit at this point.

You aim to appear safe because she “has been hurt”.

Yeah, by men who were not “safe”, which should tell you what she goes for.

Only one thing remains, does she have a little sister?

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She sounds flaky as hell.

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No woman sleeps in your bed without you becoming an octopus!!!

Your bed is sacred ground where no platonic things happen, ever!!!

You might not succeed, but if she is in your fucking bed she is fucking “asking for it”, she can always leave or sleep on the couch.

Or the floor, or the washing machine, point is, your bed is an extension of your dick.

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[quote]csulli wrote:
She sounds flaky as hell.[/quote]

Na, he tanked it.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Also, escalate MOAR!

There is no such thing as “she is not ready yet” but there is such a thing as “I am not ready yet with you, convince me otherwise”.

What is the worst that could have happened, you would have struck out sooner?[/quote]

Yes, and I wasn’t ready for that.

I was evaluating this as a potential serious relationship; hell, I enjoyed her emotional support for things like when I was interviewing, and pool competitions. I wasn’t in a rush to lose that. Physically, I was getting that elsewhere. Obviously that stops if she’s also serious.

So maybe I friendzoned her too much too.

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[quote]orion wrote:
No woman sleeps in your bed without you becoming an octopus!!!

Your bed is sacred ground where no platonic things happen, ever!!!

You might not succeed, but if she is in your fucking bed she is fucking “asking for it”, she can always leave or sleep on the couch.

Or the floor, or the washing machine, point is, your bed is an extension of your dick.

[/quote]

She slept on the couch. I was in my bed. Probably should have mentioned that.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
No woman sleeps in your bed without you becoming an octopus!!!

Your bed is sacred ground where no platonic things happen, ever!!!

You might not succeed, but if she is in your fucking bed she is fucking “asking for it”, she can always leave or sleep on the couch.

Or the floor, or the washing machine, point is, your bed is an extension of your dick.

[/quote]

She slept on the couch. I was in my bed. Probably should have mentioned that.[/quote]

Thank God.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Also, escalate MOAR!

There is no such thing as “she is not ready yet” but there is such a thing as “I am not ready yet with you, convince me otherwise”.

What is the worst that could have happened, you would have struck out sooner?[/quote]

Yes, and I wasn’t ready for that.

I was evaluating this as a potential serious relationship; hell, I enjoyed her emotional support for things like when I was interviewing, and pool competitions. I wasn’t in a rush to lose that. Physically, I was getting that elsewhere. Obviously that stops if she’s also serious.

So maybe I friendzoned her too much too.
[/quote]

Dude, you are trying to do her job.

Your job is to get to have sex with her, hers is to get you into a relationship.

You focus on sex and if she is convinced that you might be worth more investment she can reel you in with her female charms.

She can try at least.

You think she would hesitate for one second to drop you just because you boned her?

Drop all that strategic nonsense and be strictly tactical, get her into your bed and then let her work for your company.

Would have worked extra well if she digs the asshole daddies.

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[quote]optheta wrote:
35 WAYS TO CONVEY VALUE
[/quote]

great bump

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[quote]orion wrote:
Dude, you are trying to do her job.

Your job is to get to have sex with her, hers is to get you into a relationship.

You focus on sex and if she is convinced that you might be worth more investment she can reel you in with her female charms.

She can try at least.

You think she would hesitate for one second to drop you just because you boned her?

Drop all that strategic nonsense and be strictly tactical, get her into your bed and then let her work for your company.

Would have worked extra well if she digs the asshole daddies.

[/quote]

There’s more to be said, but considering this is a public forum, it’s not getting said here. If there’s a way to take this offline, I will.

I did some things wrong, clearly. I pursued something I wasn’t ready to pursue.

If she does decide to contact me, missing my attention/presence/whatever, how do I do that?

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Dude, you are trying to do her job.

Your job is to get to have sex with her, hers is to get you into a relationship.

You focus on sex and if she is convinced that you might be worth more investment she can reel you in with her female charms.

She can try at least.

You think she would hesitate for one second to drop you just because you boned her?

Drop all that strategic nonsense and be strictly tactical, get her into your bed and then let her work for your company.

Would have worked extra well if she digs the asshole daddies.

[/quote]

There’s more to be said, but considering this is a public forum, it’s not getting said here. If there’s a way to take this offline, I will.

I did some things wrong, clearly. I pursued something I wasn’t ready to pursue.

If she does decide to contact me, missing my attention/presence/whatever, how do I do that?[/quote]

What do YOU want?

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A woman who is damaged and that skittish, should be left alone. Jmo.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
A woman who is damaged and that skittish, should be left alone. Jmo.

[/quote]

That just lines her up for the next total dick.

And that dick will not pretend to be one for strategic purposes.

But yeah, you are probably right.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
A woman who is damaged and that skittish, should be left alone. Jmo.

[/quote]

That just lines her up for the next total dick.

And that dick will not pretend to be one for strategic purposes.

But yeah, you are probably right.

[/quote]
I have a case of the “give a shits”

I may not get laid as much much, but it’s more important to me to have a clear conscience.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Dude, you are trying to do her job.

Your job is to get to have sex with her, hers is to get you into a relationship.

You focus on sex and if she is convinced that you might be worth more investment she can reel you in with her female charms.

She can try at least.

You think she would hesitate for one second to drop you just because you boned her?

Drop all that strategic nonsense and be strictly tactical, get her into your bed and then let her work for your company.

Would have worked extra well if she digs the asshole daddies.

[/quote]

There’s more to be said, but considering this is a public forum, it’s not getting said here. If there’s a way to take this offline, I will.

I did some things wrong, clearly. I pursued something I wasn’t ready to pursue.

If she does decide to contact me, missing my attention/presence/whatever, how do I do that?[/quote]

What do YOU want?[/quote]

An LTR with this girl. Not your specialty, I know.

And there’s a piece of me that wishes it wasn’t true, but she’s apparently she’s very responsive to asshole game [she started talking to me again; about 3 days sooner than expected]. I guess I’m still in denial of a few things.

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Fwiw Lorez, I like your posts.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
A woman who is damaged and that skittish, should be left alone. Jmo.

[/quote]

That just lines her up for the next total dick.

And that dick will not pretend to be one for strategic purposes.

But yeah, you are probably right.

[/quote]
I have a case of the “give a shits”

I may not get laid as much much, but it’s more important to me to have a clear conscience.[/quote]

Yeah, its bad when that happens.

You really need to sort out whether you subscribe to a deontological or a consequentialist ethic when it comes to this.

Meaning, do you accept that she will not get better than you, given her demons, also accepting that necessarily must involve some dickishness on your part, or do you not care what happens to her, as long as you have no part in it?

And in my case its bad, because while I might not be Captain-save-a-ho, I can be Corporal-course correct-a-semi ho.

So, what to do?

If I got, God forbid, a case of giving a shit, I would probably feel the need to brig firth the assclownery.

Which just goes to show that giving a shit is a bad idea.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Dude, you are trying to do her job.

Your job is to get to have sex with her, hers is to get you into a relationship.

You focus on sex and if she is convinced that you might be worth more investment she can reel you in with her female charms.

She can try at least.

You think she would hesitate for one second to drop you just because you boned her?

Drop all that strategic nonsense and be strictly tactical, get her into your bed and then let her work for your company.

Would have worked extra well if she digs the asshole daddies.

[/quote]

There’s more to be said, but considering this is a public forum, it’s not getting said here. If there’s a way to take this offline, I will.

I did some things wrong, clearly. I pursued something I wasn’t ready to pursue.

If she does decide to contact me, missing my attention/presence/whatever, how do I do that?[/quote]

What do YOU want?[/quote]

An LTR with this girl. Not your specialty, I know.

And there’s a piece of me that wishes it wasn’t true, but she’s apparently she’s very responsive to asshole game [she started talking to me again; about 3 days sooner than expected]. I guess I’m still in denial of a few things.[/quote]

Look.

She is great and vulnerable and whatnot.

I get that.

You are aware that you need to be somewhat of an ass as long as this lasts right?

Hot-cold, push-pull and whatnot?

If you actually can live with that, that is your way of being “nice” to her. You cannot make up for it in some way, you have done your part.

The good news is you dont necessarily have to lie to her.

Tell her why you will act like a dominant dick from now on, but do not waver.

Do not yield an inch.

If she needs a daddy, be strong, dependable but strict and stern daddy.

You can flat out tell her to her face that you will be her daddy because that is how she needs it and that at least in the bedroom she is your little slut.

If you can actually channel her need to be abused into the bedroom, you know, schoolgirl costumes, some spanking, hair pulling and light choking she might actually see her sexuality as some sort of emotional lightning rod, which would be progress.

However, that takes time and is emotionally draining and you might not be up to it.

So, is she worth it?

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
A woman who is damaged and that skittish, should be left alone. Jmo.

[/quote]

That just lines her up for the next total dick.

And that dick will not pretend to be one for strategic purposes.

But yeah, you are probably right.

[/quote]
I have a case of the “give a shits”

I may not get laid as much much, but it’s more important to me to have a clear conscience.[/quote]

I appreciate the caution.

She has a certain set of personality traits/quirks that I’ve been looking for and found only a couple times. And there’s usually a number of other issues that tag along for the ride. I’ve dealt with some of these before; some of them are new. None of them seem to be pathological.

So, I’m not convinced she’s not worth it yet. But again, I do appreciate the caution.

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[quote]orion wrote:
However, that takes time and is emotionally draining and you might not be up to it.

So, is she worth it?
[/quote]

I think so.

I’ve done a lot more for less. That doesn’t make it right, but it’s all relative.

Plus, I’m in no rush, my SMV’s still on the rise :wink: