Let's Talk Game w/ Women

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Here is my “game” in a nutshell:

If she doesn’t have anything interesting to say, I’m out.

No, I don’t care about that “bitch from work”.

It’s worked out pretty well for me overall.[/quote]

I find boobs and a nice body interesting.

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I brought this up in another thread tonight.

I honestly believe that genuine game in any area of life is just the happy byproduct of having reached a certain level of self actualization where you honestly know who you are and what you’re about and feel relatively secure in that. I’m not meaning to be trite or to suggest people don’t consciously try to develop life, relationship and interpersonal skills that don’t come naturally to them and simply be “themselves” however lame and ineffective that may be.

I just believe there’s a place of detachment (for lack of a better word) where you’re simply not overly emotionally invested in what other people do or think or what happens around you. This isn’t an over the top, in your face thing. You need people to like and approve of you if you hope to succeed and be happy. There’s just a place where your emotional well being is not tied up in whether this or that individual approves of (or has sex with) you. You take responsibility for yourself and your physical and emotional survival. You evaluate people (including yourself) and situations dispassionately according to your own values and instincts. You are aware of what you bring to the table, both strengths and weaknesses, and you are always actively looking to find ways to improve and bring more. Basically you own all your shit and leave others to own their’s or not.

You simply cannot fake this. You cannot read a book or go to a seminar and then just decide to do it. It takes time and discipline. A person who has had some success with this process will naturally begin to exhibit certain desirable traits and behaviours, some of which tend to be associated with game. They will be good under stress and at ease in unfamiliar or challenging situations. They will seem confident and attractive. They will be their own breed of cat, whatever that may be. These behaviours are, as I said, just a byproduct of this person’s internal way of being. If you find one of these people and try to mimic their traits and behaviours in some sort of a formulaic, paint by numbers system, you MAY become somewhat proficient with diligent practice and begin to reap some of the external rewards (i.e. getting laid).

However I think you will more likely come across as stilted and wooden and your game will likely fall apart when you’re under real stress. Worse, even if you do learn to act like you have game you will miss out on the real benefit of being a genuinely happy, effective internally motivated human being who isn’t jerked this way and that by every current of events or emotions that happen to swirl around them from moment to moment. Women will tend to find this guy attractive because he has real value. If you try to do this so women will be more attracted to you, you have completely missed the point.

TL:DR - Inner peace first, game will follow on it’s own.[/quote]

You are quickly becoming one of my very favorite posters, because every time I read something you’ve written I think “exactly.”

I want the emotional component of my relationships to be like I want the sex part to be: full-on and all in and uninhibited. I want to be able to come running when he calls without wondering if it lowers my perceived value. I don’t want to have to suppress myself and hide my face and be cool. What point has life if you can’t adore someone and be adored in return, despite knowing their shortcomings and having them know yours?

Real game, as described above, is how you “pull” someone worthy of that.

Edited for clarity.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
That Polish blonde does gape flicks.

And, Jackie Jacked is right.
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Thank you and I kind of thought so too. But we are both happily married and don’t complain about our spouses or the opposite sex constantly. What would we know about capturing and maintaining someone’s interest?

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
That Polish blonde does gape flicks.

And, Jackie Jacked is right.
[/quote]

Thank you and I kind of thought so too. But we are both happily married and don’t complain about our spouses or the opposite sex constantly. What would we know about capturing and maintaining someone’s interest?

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Sky knows all about capturing people.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
That Polish blonde does gape flicks.

And, Jackie Jacked is right.
[/quote]

Thank you and I kind of thought so too. But we are both happily married and don’t complain about our spouses or the opposite sex constantly. What would we know about capturing and maintaining someone’s interest?

[/quote]

Sky knows all about capturing people.[/quote]

Heat score!

Here’s my game, gotten me laid repeatedly 100% of the time I’ve tried it, by objectively very pretty, smart, women:

I made known to my mom that I was thinking about getting married. She asked around with the other women in various shuls, etc., if there were any women who would be a good match for me. Probably some emails with pictures.

After a series of questions about family, prospects, jobs, education, and looks, a couple of candidates were mentioned and some picture circulated.

A couple of days later, we met at her parents’ house and killed a bottle of cab in their dining room, talking politics, children, travel, working out, and weight lifting until 3:00 am. A stolen kiss or two.

We got to know each other a bit more, on dates where parents or someone would hang around and then got engaged and married.

Make fun of me, but sure makes more sense that this PUA bullshit.

Shocker.

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

This is not a statement against you at all, I’m just responding to the part where you wrote that women don’t know what they respond to. When men think they know what women respond to better than women, it makes me wonder where in the world they came to a conclusion like that or what kind of women they have known, more particularly their female role models.

Besides, the only examples of women I have seen posted here that fall for that are young, stupid, gullible and stupid. Oh yeah, I said that already. Show me an intelligent, independent women that takes care of her own that falls for that kind of approach. [/quote]

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Here’s my game, gotten me laid repeatedly 100% of the time I’ve tried it, by objectively very pretty, smart, women:

I made known to my mom that I was thinking about getting married. She asked around with the other women in various shuls, etc., if there were any women who would be a good match for me. Probably some emails with pictures.

After a series of questions about family, prospects, jobs, education, and looks, a couple of candidates were mentioned and some picture circulated.

A couple of days later, we met at her parents’ house and killed a bottle of cab in their dining room, talking politics, children, travel, working out, and weight lifting until 3:00 am. A stolen kiss or two.

We got to know each other a bit more, on dates where parents or someone would hang around and then got engaged and married.

Make fun of me, but sure makes more sense that this PUA bullshit.

Shocker.[/quote]

You stuffy old Victorian. Didn’t you know that nowadays self-actualization is realized via a ritualized mating dance aimed at securing a female body for use as a genetic material waste bin? It’s all about the Alpha Peacock around here. Course, some people might want to think about just what their definition of “Alpha” entails.


Lots of hating going on in this thread.

Why so insecure, T-Nation? Afraid my crew and I might… steal yo girls?

Hittin’ the clubs before hittin’ yo wimmin.

Jealous that you all spend so much time lifting weights for attention while I’m smart enough to just get shit delivered to my crib from my favorite homosexual/BDSM fetish site? Sure seems like it.

[quote]anonym wrote:
Lots of hating going on in this thread.

Why so insecure, T-Nation? Afraid my crew and I might… steal yo girls?[/quote]

That dude’s suit is made from the skin of his past conquests. He promised to love them forever.

[quote]anonym wrote:
Hittin’ the clubs before hittin’ yo wimmin.

Jealous that you all spend so much time lifting weights for attention while I’m smart enough to just get shit delivered to my crib from my favorite homosexual/BDSM fetish site? Sure seems like it.[/quote]

Dats Whassup

Game doesnt work , you wont be able to think on the fly, it happens too damn fast,and you dont know what to say, just be natural, naturally social, wear shirts that expose your muscle or else youve wasted your time in the gym, and not wife beaters, shirts tight around arms and chest, hair is super important for aesthetics.

you just want to get her number as quick as possible dont spend 3 hours with some girl trying to make her think youre interesting, not just her number ,but as many of them as possible, be pushy and dominant get them over to your place , nature takes care of the rest, nag them, they love it . ifthey say no to whatever move onto the., next one, forget dates, youll never get laid if you go on dates nor does it even lead to higher quality relationships, what it does lead to is money spending, self esteem problems from some twit who wont sleep with you no matter what you do and it will mess with your head, youll just spend money and waste time being butthurt.

shag a girl and youll get to know her real fast believe me. After being in a few good relationships women will come super easy to you. you dont need to date women to game them that is gaming against yourself, Anyways im with an 8 out of 10 that is super cool, cooks, cleans, is a slut in the bedroom, super loyal, has a good job, it really is a relief but i just got lucky women now adays are total shit, the more time you spend talking to a girl the more time she has to judge you negatively so make sure you just get her over to your place as quick as possible, they feel entitled to your attention after and you dont have to be the nagger.

She can think what she wants after youve already conquered her in the bed. yes you will end up with alot of slags with that strategy… By accident since women are full of shit aswell, women you will cringe at, but you cant really tell if they will turn out great or not within a week. So you gotta accept that.

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
it really is a relief but i just got lucky women now adays are total shit[/quote]

Here we go again.

I wonder what percentage of people whining about women being total shit, attention-seeking whores, superficial slags, etc, are really just bad at playing the game?

Serious question: how many of you “women haters” are the guy that stands in the corner holding his beer/pretending to text while everyone else is out on the dance floor having fun?

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
it really is a relief but i just got lucky women now adays are total shit[/quote]

Here we go again.

I wonder what percentage of people whining about women being total shit, attention-seeking whores, superficial slags, etc, are really just bad at playing the game?

Serious question: how many of you “women haters” are the guy that stands in the corner holding his beer/pretending to text while everyone else is out on the dance floor having fun?[/quote]

The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever.

Regarding a sub-area of the topic: texting and calling.

When you’re face to face, the dynamics are pretty out in the open, and things like mirroring behavior and expressions, controlling eye contact, tone of voice, pacing… all that stuff is right there and available to use. You also know she’s with you, interested in you, and there’s nobody else in her immediate attention.

But the bandwidth of texting is very very low. If you’ve got a good rapport that you can continue over text, that’s fine… but when life gets in the way, the pace of things slow way way down.

When you’re stuck with:
“hey, what’s up?” “nothing”
“you busy?” “yeah”
“how are you doing?” “ok”

Or,
“I’m going to call you in a bit” silence [Call, later] ignore/doesn’t answer

When you switch mediums, you lose the ability to play off of her very well. If you’re lucky, you can make her laugh, but that’s hard. And it’s very easy to come across “needy”. About the only thing that at all says you’re doing things right, is if you stop talking to her, and wait until she contacts you… but that’s very hard to do, and it’s high risk.

So how do you deal with it?

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
it really is a relief but i just got lucky women now adays are total shit[/quote]

Here we go again.

I wonder what percentage of people whining about women being total shit, attention-seeking whores, superficial slags, etc, are really just bad at playing the game?

Serious question: how many of you “women haters” are the guy that stands in the corner holding his beer/pretending to text while everyone else is out on the dance floor having fun?[/quote]

All of the ugly bettys are always going on about how many guys hit on them, makes them feel good i guess, but under all that ambience, dark light, and alcohol, i guess some decent guys do make the mistake of waking up next to one of those Lol

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
That Polish blonde does gape flicks.
[/quote]

Pics or it didn’t happen

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
it really is a relief but i just got lucky women now adays are total shit[/quote]

Here we go again.

I wonder what percentage of people whining about women being total shit, attention-seeking whores, superficial slags, etc, are really just bad at playing the game?

Serious question: how many of you “women haters” are the guy that stands in the corner holding his beer/pretending to text while everyone else is out on the dance floor having fun?[/quote]

The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever. [/quote]

Really? Lol

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
it really is a relief but i just got lucky women now adays are total shit[/quote]

Here we go again.

I wonder what percentage of people whining about women being total shit, attention-seeking whores, superficial slags, etc, are really just bad at playing the game?

Serious question: how many of you “women haters” are the guy that stands in the corner holding his beer/pretending to text while everyone else is out on the dance floor having fun?[/quote]

The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever. [/quote]

Really? Lol

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I mean, ok, I’ll agree with this to some extent. You don’t usually see that guy because he walks in the door, and in less than 20 minutes later, he’s walking out with someone.