Let's Talk Game w/ Women

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[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever. [/quote]

What I MEANT is… how many people here complaining about how awful and slutty and superficial bitches are, are simply too socially awkward, shy or self-conscious to effectively engage in situations that allow them to meet and succeed with women.

Is it a sour grapes situation, is what I’m asking. Or is everyone really marching out of step except for you?

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
it really is a relief but i just got lucky women now adays are total shit[/quote]

Here we go again.

I wonder what percentage of people whining about women being total shit, attention-seeking whores, superficial slags, etc, are really just bad at playing the game?

Serious question: how many of you “women haters” are the guy that stands in the corner holding his beer/pretending to text while everyone else is out on the dance floor having fun?[/quote]

The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever. [/quote]

Really? Lol

[/quote]

I mean, ok, I’ll agree with this to some extent. You don’t usually see that guy because he walks in the door, and in less than 20 minutes later, he’s walking out with someone.[/quote]

It just seems weird. I go to clubs to dance myself. I dance with women and consider it foreplay.

Maybe dudes who strike out on the dance floor cant dance or are obviously only there to try to get pussy? If you cant dance then you will become a joke. If youre blatantly rubbing a hard cock on her ass then she knows youre in the palm of her hand.

I go out for me. I dance with women. I out pace them and get them soaked with sweat…then i win. Never fails.

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I don’t know if you guys know, but I’m a firm believer of the “Ladder Theory”. I haven’t read it in awhile, but I believe there’s so much truth in it.

If you’re not familiar with it, basically it boils down to this.

Every chick you meet, you will fall onto 1 of 2 ladders… The good one or… The bad one.

The friends ladder or the lover ladder. Its impossible to be on both.

You’re on 1 or the other and that’s it.

Another factor is how high you are on the ladder. For our interests (since I’m sure most guys have no interest in only being friends with a chick they think is hot) I am only gonna talk about the Lovers Ladder.

Just because your on it, doesn’t mean you’re getting laid. Its not that simple… If you’re towards the bottom rung, she’s gonna be bangin dudes at the top and going down the list.

So, you gotta reach for the top rung. Reach for the stars I should say… But how to get there?

Well, there’s only a few factors and they all have a percentage.

Iirc, it boils down to this: 50% looks, 30% money, and 20% your social status - meaning your friends, your clothes, family, and more importantly how her friends and family will perceive you. I dunno if I got the percentages correct, but its somewhere in those ballparks.

Things that don’t matter but she will say matters: humor, personality, kindness, intelligence

So basically: get jacked, but not to a point where everyone she knows thinks your on the juice and superficial, and make a fuckton of money.

Problem solved

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[quote]rookie lifter wrote:
[bunch of stuff I mostly agree with]

Things that don’t matter but she will say matters: humor, personality, kindness, intelligence[/quote]

You really don’t think that matters?

I’ve found it does (but I could be delusional). Maybe not in the first 10 minutes of meeting her, but at least by 20-30 minutes into the first actual conversation you have. But that’s if you actually want to see her more than once.

So I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to here. It sounds like you’re talking in two different time frames: short-term “one night stand” territory, and longer term “let’s actually see each other a few times and maybe actually date” territory.

Does “how you look to her friends and family” really play a role in a one-night stand?

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
it really is a relief but i just got lucky women now adays are total shit[/quote]

Here we go again.

I wonder what percentage of people whining about women being total shit, attention-seeking whores, superficial slags, etc, are really just bad at playing the game?

Serious question: how many of you “women haters” are the guy that stands in the corner holding his beer/pretending to text while everyone else is out on the dance floor having fun?[/quote]

The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever. [/quote]

Really? Lol

[/quote]

I mean, ok, I’ll agree with this to some extent. You don’t usually see that guy because he walks in the door, and in less than 20 minutes later, he’s walking out with someone.[/quote]

It just seems weird. I go to clubs to dance myself. I dance with women and consider it foreplay.

Maybe dudes who strike out on the dance floor cant dance or are obviously only there to try to get pussy? If you cant dance then you will become a joke. If youre blatantly rubbing a hard cock on her ass then she knows youre in the palm of her hand.

I go out for me. I dance with women. I out pace them and get them soaked with sweat…then i win. Never fails.

[/quote]

Being in the “palm of her hand”. Shouldn’t she be in “the palm of your hand”. You dance, and your a mind controlled feminist. Sums it up. Pussy Whipped.

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[quote]rookie lifter wrote:
I don’t know if you guys know, but I’m a firm believer of the “Ladder Theory”. I haven’t read it in awhile, but I believe there’s so much truth in it.

If you’re not familiar with it, basically it boils down to this.

Every chick you meet, you will fall onto 1 of 2 ladders… The good one or… The bad one.

The friends ladder or the lover ladder. Its impossible to be on both.

You’re on 1 or the other and that’s it.

Another factor is how high you are on the ladder. For our interests (since I’m sure most guys have no interest in only being friends with a chick they think is hot) I am only gonna talk about the Lovers Ladder.

Just because your on it, doesn’t mean you’re getting laid. Its not that simple… If you’re towards the bottom rung, she’s gonna be bangin dudes at the top and going down the list.

So, you gotta reach for the top rung. Reach for the stars I should say… But how to get there?

Well, there’s only a few factors and they all have a percentage.

Iirc, it boils down to this: 50% looks, 30% money, and 20% your social status - meaning your friends, your clothes, family, and more importantly how her friends and family will perceive you. I dunno if I got the percentages correct, but its somewhere in those ballparks.

Things that don’t matter but she will say matters: humor, personality, kindness, intelligence

So basically: get jacked, but not to a point where everyone she knows thinks your on the juice and superficial, and make a fuckton of money.

Problem solved[/quote]

Huh?

Social status matters but personality and humor dont?

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[quote]rookie lifter wrote:
I don’t know if you guys know, but I’m a firm believer of the “Ladder Theory”. I haven’t read it in awhile, but I believe there’s so much truth in it.

If you’re not familiar with it, basically it boils down to this.

Every chick you meet, you will fall onto 1 of 2 ladders… The good one or… The bad one.

The friends ladder or the lover ladder. Its impossible to be on both.

You’re on 1 or the other and that’s it.

Another factor is how high you are on the ladder. For our interests (since I’m sure most guys have no interest in only being friends with a chick they think is hot) I am only gonna talk about the Lovers Ladder.

Just because your on it, doesn’t mean you’re getting laid. Its not that simple… If you’re towards the bottom rung, she’s gonna be bangin dudes at the top and going down the list.

So, you gotta reach for the top rung. Reach for the stars I should say… But how to get there?

Well, there’s only a few factors and they all have a percentage.

Iirc, it boils down to this: 50% looks, 30% money, and 20% your social status - meaning your friends, your clothes, family, and more importantly how her friends and family will perceive you. I dunno if I got the percentages correct, but its somewhere in those ballparks.

Things that don’t matter but she will say matters: humor, personality, kindness, intelligence

So basically: get jacked, but not to a point where everyone she knows thinks your on the juice and superficial, and make a fuckton of money.

Problem solved[/quote]

Does this apply to all women?

I have none of the aforementioned percentages :frowning: Am I doomed?

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]rookie lifter wrote:
[bunch of stuff I mostly agree with]

Things that don’t matter but she will say matters: humor, personality, kindness, intelligence[/quote]

You really don’t think that matters?

I’ve found it does (but I could be delusional). Maybe not in the first 10 minutes of meeting her, but at least by 20-30 minutes into the first actual conversation you have. But that’s if you actually want to see her more than once.

So I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to here. It sounds like you’re talking in two different time frames: short-term “one night stand” territory, and longer term “let’s actually see each other a few times and maybe actually date” territory.

Does “how you look to her friends and family” really play a role in a one-night stand?[/quote]

I should clarify…

Short-term ONS scenario: shit doesn’t matter. But at the same time, if your out at a party, and you’re the hot guy with money and all the girls are jockin, it will make you more attractive in her eyes and she will compete and go after you. So it matters to an extent.

For long-term relationships: it does matter. Humour, intelligence and personality will be judged by her friends and family - in addition to looks and money.

These things all work together.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]rookie lifter wrote:
I don’t know if you guys know, but I’m a firm believer of the “Ladder Theory”. I haven’t read it in awhile, but I believe there’s so much truth in it.

If you’re not familiar with it, basically it boils down to this.

Every chick you meet, you will fall onto 1 of 2 ladders… The good one or… The bad one.

The friends ladder or the lover ladder. Its impossible to be on both.

You’re on 1 or the other and that’s it.

Another factor is how high you are on the ladder. For our interests (since I’m sure most guys have no interest in only being friends with a chick they think is hot) I am only gonna talk about the Lovers Ladder.

Just because your on it, doesn’t mean you’re getting laid. Its not that simple… If you’re towards the bottom rung, she’s gonna be bangin dudes at the top and going down the list.

So, you gotta reach for the top rung. Reach for the stars I should say… But how to get there?

Well, there’s only a few factors and they all have a percentage.

Iirc, it boils down to this: 50% looks, 30% money, and 20% your social status - meaning your friends, your clothes, family, and more importantly how her friends and family will perceive you. I dunno if I got the percentages correct, but its somewhere in those ballparks.

Things that don’t matter but she will say matters: humor, personality, kindness, intelligence

So basically: get jacked, but not to a point where everyone she knows thinks your on the juice and superficial, and make a fuckton of money.

Problem solved[/quote]

Huh?

Social status matters but personality and humor dont?

[/quote]

Its one of those “fine line” things that need to be treaded carefully. Its a subtle thing and hard to explain. But to be on the safe side, don’t be an ignorant naiive person in addition to being the other “things that do matter” and you don’t have to worry at all.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]rookie lifter wrote:
I don’t know if you guys know, but I’m a firm believer of the “Ladder Theory”. I haven’t read it in awhile, but I believe there’s so much truth in it.

If you’re not familiar with it, basically it boils down to this.

Every chick you meet, you will fall onto 1 of 2 ladders… The good one or… The bad one.

The friends ladder or the lover ladder. Its impossible to be on both.

You’re on 1 or the other and that’s it.

Another factor is how high you are on the ladder. For our interests (since I’m sure most guys have no interest in only being friends with a chick they think is hot) I am only gonna talk about the Lovers Ladder.

Just because your on it, doesn’t mean you’re getting laid. Its not that simple… If you’re towards the bottom rung, she’s gonna be bangin dudes at the top and going down the list.

So, you gotta reach for the top rung. Reach for the stars I should say… But how to get there?

Well, there’s only a few factors and they all have a percentage.

Iirc, it boils down to this: 50% looks, 30% money, and 20% your social status - meaning your friends, your clothes, family, and more importantly how her friends and family will perceive you. I dunno if I got the percentages correct, but its somewhere in those ballparks.

Things that don’t matter but she will say matters: humor, personality, kindness, intelligence

So basically: get jacked, but not to a point where everyone she knows thinks your on the juice and superficial, and make a fuckton of money.

Problem solved[/quote]

Does this apply to all women?

I have none of the aforementioned percentages :frowning: Am I doomed? [/quote]
Yes and yes.

But its not too late to make changes and turn things around…

Actually, there are some subsets of chicks this might not all apply too…

Goth chicks: money won’t matter. Looks can easily be met by buying black clothes, accessories with metal and silver, and eyeliner. Social status: just be anti social and hate everything mainstream.

Druggies: just have enough to get em high. Look like you won’t kill em and you probably pass in that department. Social status: just don’t act like a cop, square or self-righteous pussy and you probably score. Don’t forget to wear a jimmy with these ones

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[quote]rookie lifter wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]rookie lifter wrote:
I don’t know if you guys know, but I’m a firm believer of the “Ladder Theory”. I haven’t read it in awhile, but I believe there’s so much truth in it.

If you’re not familiar with it, basically it boils down to this.

Every chick you meet, you will fall onto 1 of 2 ladders… The good one or… The bad one.

The friends ladder or the lover ladder. Its impossible to be on both.

You’re on 1 or the other and that’s it.

Another factor is how high you are on the ladder. For our interests (since I’m sure most guys have no interest in only being friends with a chick they think is hot) I am only gonna talk about the Lovers Ladder.

Just because your on it, doesn’t mean you’re getting laid. Its not that simple… If you’re towards the bottom rung, she’s gonna be bangin dudes at the top and going down the list.

So, you gotta reach for the top rung. Reach for the stars I should say… But how to get there?

Well, there’s only a few factors and they all have a percentage.

Iirc, it boils down to this: 50% looks, 30% money, and 20% your social status - meaning your friends, your clothes, family, and more importantly how her friends and family will perceive you. I dunno if I got the percentages correct, but its somewhere in those ballparks.

Things that don’t matter but she will say matters: humor, personality, kindness, intelligence

So basically: get jacked, but not to a point where everyone she knows thinks your on the juice and superficial, and make a fuckton of money.

Problem solved[/quote]

Does this apply to all women?

I have none of the aforementioned percentages :frowning: Am I doomed? [/quote]
Yes and yes.

But its not too late to make changes and turn things around…

Actually, there are some subsets of chicks this might not all apply too…

Goth chicks: money won’t matter. Looks can easily be met by buying black clothes, accessories with metal and silver, and eyeliner. Social status: just be anti social and hate everything mainstream.

Druggies: just have enough to get em high. Look like you won’t kill em and you probably pass in that department. Social status: just don’t act like a cop, square or self-righteous pussy and you probably score. Don’t forget to wear a jimmy with these ones[/quote]

Damn Goths.

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BTW

We do use money. Its called Goth Dollars. Theyre not green. Theyre Black…like our souls.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:
Regarding a sub-area of the topic: texting and calling.

When you’re face to face, the dynamics are pretty out in the open, and things like mirroring behavior and expressions, controlling eye contact, tone of voice, pacing… all that stuff is right there and available to use. You also know she’s with you, interested in you, and there’s nobody else in her immediate attention.

But the bandwidth of texting is very very low. If you’ve got a good rapport that you can continue over text, that’s fine… but when life gets in the way, the pace of things slow way way down.

When you’re stuck with:
“hey, what’s up?” “nothing”
“you busy?” “yeah”
“how are you doing?” “ok”

Or,
“I’m going to call you in a bit” silence [Call, later] ignore/doesn’t answer

When you switch mediums, you lose the ability to play off of her very well. If you’re lucky, you can make her laugh, but that’s hard. And it’s very easy to come across “needy”. About the only thing that at all says you’re doing things right, is if you stop talking to her, and wait until she contacts you… but that’s very hard to do, and it’s high risk.

So how do you deal with it?[/quote]

I like this question…

First off, I enjoy texting a girl I am interested in, but not one I am just friends with. Usually with a girl I like, the texting will go on for a few hours and probably end up saying goodnight to that girl. With friends, it is just a simple how are you and so o. Anyways I realize people get busy and sometimes cannot carry on a conversation via text as fast as you want them to. I was going to start a thread on this but now that it is being addressed I thought I would ask. If the girl/guy you are interested in texts you obviously they are looking to have a conversation to what I extent only they know. Anyways, this happened to me this past weekend. A girl who I am interested in is a good friend of mine. She texted me cause she drove past my work and saw me woking. She asked how I was and so on. So I did the same and after about 10 texts, it took the girl 3 hours to text me back. This was at like 9 o’clock. So I ended the conversation by telling her I was with people and I was letting her go.

Anyways… my question is, if you are trying to have a conversation via text and the other person takes a significant amount of time to text back, i.e. over an hour, does that just turn you off and the conversation is lost at that point? Also, I don’t only apply this to women, if I text one of my buddies and he takes forever to text back and or never does, that shit pisses me off. One more thing, a simply sorry I was eating dinner or with my family would suffice, but I guess others don’t believe in common courtesy even via text.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever. [/quote]

What I MEANT is… how many people here complaining about how awful and slutty and superficial bitches are, are simply too socially awkward, shy or self-conscious to effectively engage in situations that allow them to meet and succeed with women.

Is it a sour grapes situation, is what I’m asking. Or is everyone really marching out of step except for you?[/quote]

Its not sour grapes to say how I see it.

I have turned down women on nights out because I dont want to be guy #245 on her shag list, thats how you catch shit more often.

I’m not the kind to be in the corner with my phone either unless something royally pisses me off and I just use the phone to prevent myself from causing trouble. Its anti-social to do that but I come out of it pretty quick.

Oh and dont make the mistake about not being able to game women in a club/bar situation with not being able to game women at all.

I have had a deafness problem all my life and it can be hard listening to some people, especially women. Add in a noisy environment and you have a crappy chance but smiling and body language works there so I adapt.

Outside of nights out I am fine with any potential chat-up scenarios but if the girl is a fucking idiot I just cant get over it. It annoys me.

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[quote]stefan128 wrote:
[T]his happened to me this past weekend. A girl who I am interested in is a good friend of mine. She texted me cause she drove past my work and saw me working. She asked how I was and so on. So I did the same and after about 10 texts, it took the girl 3 hours to text me back. This was at like 9 o’clock. So I ended the conversation by telling her I was with people and I was letting her go.

Anyways… my question is, if you are trying to have a conversation via text and the other person takes a significant amount of time to text back, i.e. over an hour, does that just turn you off and the conversation is lost at that point? Also, I don’t only apply this to women, if I text one of my buddies and he takes forever to text back and or never does, that shit pisses me off. One more thing, a simply sorry I was eating dinner or with my family would suffice, but I guess others don’t believe in common courtesy even via text.
[/quote]

I think the rules for common courtesy are very different when it comes to texting. As in, letting a conversation just stop, randomly, seems to be perfectly acceptable. I don’t know why, but it is. I’m having trouble letting it not drive me crazy.

Because I actually want to know where she is, what she’s doing, and why she stopped texting me… but I know better than to actually ask.

So I hold my tongue.

The only thing I’ve kind of found helps is to try and make her smile or laugh every couple messages. Even so, there’s a whole lot of waiting games going on. Wondering how long I should wait for her to reply until I send her another text. Wondering whether I should reply to her text immediately, or let it sit for awhile. Etc.

But I’ve really only had to do this with one girl, and I’m just figuring it out as I go along. But she keeps talking to me, so I guess I’m doing ok.

Me: Can you talk tonight?
three hours later – I also called and got no answer
Me: Gonna take that as a ‘no’. I need to get up at 5:30 for my flight. Goodnight!
an hour later
Her: I’m just getting to bed now. Have a safe flight. Don’t talk to strangers :wink:
next day
Me: Made it back alive. Nobody offered me candy :frowning: You end up working today?
Her: Nope, I work tomorrow. You poor thing, no candy for you. Lol.

Put all together, it sounds fine. But those delays are killer.

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[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever. [/quote]

What I MEANT is… how many people here complaining about how awful and slutty and superficial bitches are, are simply too socially awkward, shy or self-conscious to effectively engage in situations that allow them to meet and succeed with women.

Is it a sour grapes situation, is what I’m asking. Or is everyone really marching out of step except for you?[/quote]

I’m not the kind to be in the corner with my phone either unless something royally pisses me off and I just use the phone to prevent myself from causing trouble. Its anti-social to do that but I come out of it pretty quick.
[/quote]

I’m the kind that sits and chats up the cute female bartenders, while keeping an eye on the dance floor. I don’t touch my phone; I use the dynamics of the bar to keep myself occupied. Last few times I did this (and it’s been a long while), I had girls come up next to me, smile, order their drinks [I didn’t offer], and invite me to come dance with them.

I kind of understand why those dynamics work – the competition: they saw how the girls who work there laugh and flirt with me; a bit of an “insider” vibe since you’re hanging out with the people who work there rather than the patrons; and the mixed signals of letting her know you’re interested, and yet not showing it in a way she expects… (i.e., letting her know you’re watching her on the dance floor, and smiling when she comes over, but not actually offering to buy her a drink.)

Except most of the time I did that was just because my girlfriend was working nights, and I felt like drinking and people watching. The confidence wasn’t feigned, the flirting with the bartender was completely innocent, and I really didn’t want to buy the girl a drink.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
The dance floor isnt fun, its a terrible place to meet someone, dance floors cater to women being hit on every 5 minutes by every guy in the venue, suckers wasting their money buying drinks for women who think its cute and than never sleep with them and treat them like shit. Dance floors are great, if your a girl. You get a nice little self esteem boost around your friends and you can feel like a powerful slut. yeah… Sorry alpha males do NOT put up with that… They are actually usually in bed with an 8. Out of 10 having fun ; ). Thats why you never find the hot guy at the bar club or whatever. [/quote]

What I MEANT is… how many people here complaining about how awful and slutty and superficial bitches are, are simply too socially awkward, shy or self-conscious to effectively engage in situations that allow them to meet and succeed with women.

Is it a sour grapes situation, is what I’m asking. Or is everyone really marching out of step except for you?[/quote]

I’m not the kind to be in the corner with my phone either unless something royally pisses me off and I just use the phone to prevent myself from causing trouble. Its anti-social to do that but I come out of it pretty quick.
[/quote]

I’m the kind that sits and chats up the cute female bartenders, while keeping an eye on the dance floor. I don’t touch my phone; I use the dynamics of the bar to keep myself occupied. Last few times I did this (and it’s been a long while), I had girls come up next to me, smile, order their drinks [I didn’t offer], and invite me to come dance with them.

I kind of understand why those dynamics work – the competition: they saw how the girls who work there laugh and flirt with me; a bit of an “insider” vibe since you’re hanging out with the people who work there rather than the patrons; and the mixed signals of letting her know you’re interested, and yet not showing it in a way she expects… (i.e., letting her know you’re watching her on the dance floor, and smiling when she comes over, but not actually offering to buy her a drink.)

Except most of the time I did that was just because my girlfriend was working nights, and I felt like drinking and people watching. The confidence wasn’t feigned, the flirting with the bartender was completely innocent, and I really didn’t want to buy the girl a drink.[/quote]

Most guys do not get asked to go dance by a cute girl, they have to put in the effort into going and approaching them and building rapport etc.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]stefan128 wrote:
[T]his happened to me this past weekend. A girl who I am interested in is a good friend of mine. She texted me cause she drove past my work and saw me working. She asked how I was and so on. So I did the same and after about 10 texts, it took the girl 3 hours to text me back. This was at like 9 o’clock. So I ended the conversation by telling her I was with people and I was letting her go.

Anyways… my question is, if you are trying to have a conversation via text and the other person takes a significant amount of time to text back, i.e. over an hour, does that just turn you off and the conversation is lost at that point? Also, I don’t only apply this to women, if I text one of my buddies and he takes forever to text back and or never does, that shit pisses me off. One more thing, a simply sorry I was eating dinner or with my family would suffice, but I guess others don’t believe in common courtesy even via text.
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I think the rules for common courtesy are very different when it comes to texting. As in, letting a conversation just stop, randomly, seems to be perfectly acceptable. I don’t know why, but it is. I’m having trouble letting it not drive me crazy.

Because I actually want to know where she is, what she’s doing, and why she stopped texting me… but I know better than to actually ask.

So I hold my tongue.

The only thing I’ve kind of found helps is to try and make her smile or laugh every couple messages. Even so, there’s a whole lot of waiting games going on. Wondering how long I should wait for her to reply until I send her another text. Wondering whether I should reply to her text immediately, or let it sit for awhile. Etc.

But I’ve really only had to do this with one girl, and I’m just figuring it out as I go along. But she keeps talking to me, so I guess I’m doing ok.

Me: Can you talk tonight?
three hours later – I also called and got no answer
Me: Gonna take that as a ‘no’. I need to get up at 5:30 for my flight. Goodnight!
an hour later
Her: I’m just getting to bed now. Have a safe flight. Don’t talk to strangers :wink:
next day
Me: Made it back alive. Nobody offered me candy :frowning: You end up working today?
Her: Nope, I work tomorrow. You poor thing, no candy for you. Lol.

Put all together, it sounds fine. But those delays are killer.[/quote]

Wasting time on one girl, those conversations are pathetic, she wasnt working that day and she didnt even ask to hang out LOL? Or did you leave out the part where she said she was busy out of embarassment. what is clearly happening is you are in love with a text tard teaser, shes probably doing that to 10 guys at once or already has a boyfriend but doesnt want to let go of the admiration from desperate men such as yourself. Women like to look at a guy and play games betting that the guy wants them makes them feel good if they are right which they usually are, or they just like to tease people. you obviously lack wisdom, life experience, or both. Men are suckers for women, thinking they are super innocent. Psychological studies state that you are happier for only 1 year after marriage or just in the beggining of a relationship, than it flatlines to the same level as a normal single guy. Women aren’t the secret to happiness. Why not pursue something more worthwhile instead of using your phone to torture yourself over some idiot just teasing you. I know lifting weights makes you think you look good, and you feel like you should be in the action, and trying to get laid, vanity is a burden, just an illusion of confidence. Seems like your the one gaming yourself. You can give someone advice, just not the intelligence to take it. If you had any game you would leave her a nasty text and never talk to her again.

Us males are legends in our own minds, we believe women think we are the most attractive or that were special to them, we even go as far to think its as easy as just having bigger arms, if that were the case jay cutler would have women lining up outside his door. Yes our ego wants to make us think, if we want some exotic sex life, its as easy as just lifting weights. Men are viewed as accessories by females, like a handbag. Or a disposable replaceable razor. You cant blame them when even the ugly ones have 10 men a day trying to shag them they can go hmmph do i want a muscular one , a dark one, or atall one this weekend? all the while you think your special lol. Especially in this generation of men raised by women. With the feminist culture we give too much power to the effect women can have on our happiness, it is quite tiny. Knowing the mentality of females… Do you really wish to dedicate your time to their pursuit? I dont thinkits worth it. Unless your a total pervert weirdo, or just have no self esteem and cant handle being alone because of the single guy stigma.

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[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
Wasting time on one girl, those conversations are pathetic, she wasnt working that day and she didnt even ask to hang out LOL? Or did you leave out the part where she said she was busy out of embarassment. what is clearly happening is you are in love with a text tard teaser, shes probably doing that to 10 guys at once or already has a boyfriend but doesnt want to let go of the admiration from desperate men such as yourself. Women like to look at a guy and play games betting that the guy wants them makes them feel good if they are right which they usually are, or they just like to tease people. you obviously lack wisdom, life experience, or both. Men are suckers for women, thinking they are super innocent. Psychological studies state that you are happier for only 1 year after marriage or just in the beggining of a relationship, than it flatlines to the same level as a normal single guy. Women aren’t the secret to happiness. Why not pursue something more worthwhile instead of using your phone to torture yourself over some idiot just teasing you. I know lifting weights makes you think you look good, and you feel like you should be in the action, and trying to get laid, vanity is a burden, just an illusion of confidence. Seems like your the one gaming yourself. You can give someone advice, just not the intelligence to take it. If you had any game you would leave her a nasty text and never talk to her again.

Us males are legends in our own minds, we believe women think we are the most attractive or that were special to them, we even go as far to think its as easy as just having bigger arms, if that were the case jay cutler would have women lining up outside his door. Yes our ego wants to make us think, if we want some exotic sex life, its as easy as just lifting weights. Men are viewed as accessories by females, like a handbag. Or a disposable replaceable razor. You cant blame them when even the ugly ones have 10 men a day trying to shag them they can go hmmph do i want a muscular one , a dark one, or atall one this weekend? all the while you think your special lol. Especially in this generation of men raised by women. With the feminist culture we give too much power to the effect women can have on our happiness, it is quite tiny. Knowing the mentality of females… Do you really wish to dedicate your time to their pursuit? I dont thinkits worth it. Unless your a total pervert weirdo, or just have no self esteem and cant handle being alone because of the single guy stigma.[/quote]

That was hilarious to read. She’s out of town with her family, I was out of town with mine.

But, I mean, your interpretation… much better than real life.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]DrEvil666 wrote:
Wasting time on one girl, those conversations are pathetic, she wasnt working that day and she didnt even ask to hang out LOL? Or did you leave out the part where she said she was busy out of embarassment. what is clearly happening is you are in love with a text tard teaser, shes probably doing that to 10 guys at once or already has a boyfriend but doesnt want to let go of the admiration from desperate men such as yourself. Women like to look at a guy and play games betting that the guy wants them makes them feel good if they are right which they usually are, or they just like to tease people. you obviously lack wisdom, life experience, or both. Men are suckers for women, thinking they are super innocent. Psychological studies state that you are happier for only 1 year after marriage or just in the beggining of a relationship, than it flatlines to the same level as a normal single guy. Women aren’t the secret to happiness. Why not pursue something more worthwhile instead of using your phone to torture yourself over some idiot just teasing you. I know lifting weights makes you think you look good, and you feel like you should be in the action, and trying to get laid, vanity is a burden, just an illusion of confidence. Seems like your the one gaming yourself. You can give someone advice, just not the intelligence to take it. If you had any game you would leave her a nasty text and never talk to her again.

Us males are legends in our own minds, we believe women think we are the most attractive or that were special to them, we even go as far to think its as easy as just having bigger arms, if that were the case jay cutler would have women lining up outside his door. Yes our ego wants to make us think, if we want some exotic sex life, its as easy as just lifting weights. Men are viewed as accessories by females, like a handbag. Or a disposable replaceable razor. You cant blame them when even the ugly ones have 10 men a day trying to shag them they can go hmmph do i want a muscular one , a dark one, or atall one this weekend? all the while you think your special lol. Especially in this generation of men raised by women. With the feminist culture we give too much power to the effect women can have on our happiness, it is quite tiny. Knowing the mentality of females… Do you really wish to dedicate your time to their pursuit? I dont thinkits worth it. Unless your a total pervert weirdo, or just have no self esteem and cant handle being alone because of the single guy stigma.[/quote]

That was hilarious to read. She’s out of town with her family, I was out of town with mine.

But, I mean, your interpretation… much better than real life.[/quote]

Ah yes well anything the good Dr can help with.