Let's Talk Game w/ Women

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Enough about the hair twirling. She was tugging on her locks before he stopped her. Check for yourself.[/quote]

Sometimes I get women on an emotional level.

When I watch a woman practically jumping a guy and he is still oblivious, that is when it mostly happens.

I feel the same feelings of unbelief and embarrassment, the WTF!?! is sometimes strong.

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Seriously? You post a vid of a PUA supposedly manipulating a woman into playing with her hair in under three minutes, miss the fact that she was doing that before the guy opened his mouth, and when I point it out your response is that you get women on an emotional level?[/quote]

Look.

What she does what noone else is around is irrelevant.

What she does when he is right in front of her is highly relevant.

She starts to laugh, practically fondles her pony tail and leans into his personal space when she laughs.

After 4 minutes something he gets her contact information.

Go out, right now, and come back with 3 numbers.

You have one hour.

Go!

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Whats an AFC?

I am too busy staring at women to look it up.

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[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Whats an AFC?

I am too busy staring at women to look it up.[/quote]

Average frustrated chump.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
Reading Orion’s posts is even worse than reading the nonsense X writes when he tries to argue about nothing.

The “game”? PUA? haha, gimme a break.

But I see how this crap can be attractive to some guys.[/quote]

Thank you kind Sir for that well thought out reply and let me assure you that it is very appreciated.

Next time I see anything like this, I will know not to be fooled.

Cold daytime approach to strong hair twirling in just over 3 minutes:

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This is stupid. First of all it was probably all set up, the girl is probably a wannabe actress. In the off chance I’m wrong about that, it’s still stupid to conclude interest from the hair twirling she was doing. There’s another time girls hair-twirl. It’s when they are nervous or uncomfortable and that is what that was. Or, as I said, a big act. That guy scored absolutely nothing except getting to talk with a beautiful girl for a few minutes.

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[quote]debraD wrote:
You think you have some control over us girlie things. :slight_smile: We’ve already decided if it’s a yes or a no before you’ve even opened your pretty mouth. The only thing you can do is fuck up a yes and make it a no.
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This is not entirely true. I fall into the category of ‘better not screw up an initial yes’ but there are guys who can turn a no into a yes. I’ve seen it plenty of times.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
Reading Orion’s posts is even worse than reading the nonsense X writes when he tries to argue about nothing.

The “game”? PUA? haha, gimme a break.

But I see how this crap can be attractive to some guys.[/quote]

Thank you kind Sir for that well thought out reply and let me assure you that it is very appreciated.

Next time I see anything like this, I will know not to be fooled.

Cold daytime approach to strong hair twirling in just over 3 minutes:

[/quote]

This is stupid. First of all it was probably all set up, the girl is probably a wannabe actress. In the off chance I’m wrong about that, it’s still stupid to conclude interest from the hair twirling she was doing. There’s another time girls hair-twirl. It’s when they are nervous or uncomfortable and that is what that was. Or, as I said, a big act. That guy scored absolutely nothing except getting to talk with a beautiful girl for a few minutes.[/quote]

Oh please, he puts up everything, his hits, his misses, he gets progressively better in time, from ackward to awesome.

You know what, fly to London, offer him some lucre and he will demonstrate it.

That is what the game is about.

What you belief is “possible” is bullshit.

You can do and be more.

Much more.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Enough about the hair twirling. She was tugging on her locks before he stopped her. Check for yourself.[/quote]

Sometimes I get women on an emotional level.

When I watch a woman practically jumping a guy and he is still oblivious, that is when it mostly happens.

I feel the same feelings of unbelief and embarrassment, the WTF!?! is sometimes strong.

[/quote]

Seriously? You post a vid of a PUA supposedly manipulating a woman into playing with her hair in under three minutes, miss the fact that she was doing that before the guy opened his mouth, and when I point it out your response is that you get women on an emotional level?[/quote]

Look.

What she does what noone else is around is irrelevant.

What she does when he is right in front of her is highly relevant.

She starts to laugh, practically fondles her pony tail and leans into his personal space when she laughs.

After 4 minutes something he gets her contact information.

Go out, right now, and come back with 3 numbers.

You have one hour.

Go!
[/quote]

More than one hour, no three numbers ----> armchair quarterback.

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This is the same guy who did that Miami Zombie prank

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

Ohhhhhhh only a mild asshole.

I have discussed it with him. As I’ve said already, it’s been kind of an ongoing joke for years. There isn’t really anything to discuss. He’s already told me that he wanted to call me more but didn’t because he thought he’d be friend zoned. I told him that was ridiculous. Okay, Orion. This is the part where you tell me that I’m wrong. I’m waiting. lol

Since you know so much about women, what was my game? Tell me. I’m dying to know.[/quote]

Not Orion here, but I’m going to respond anyway.

I’m not a pick-up artist, I’m very straight forward with my approach to life and people, but in my nearly 48 years I have figured out that women don’t really know what they respond to and I think you are quite naive to think your husband couldn’t have screwed it up if he didn’t hold back a little bit. You tell him he was silly and he didn’t have a thing to worry about but I bet you if he was thrown back in time he would do it all exactly the same just to be sure. So far in the history of humanity every single woman has believed just as you do yet the majority of men have all figured out they have to be careful with their actions at least early on.

Think about it. Your husband can piss you the hell off now and in an hour, a day, three days, whatever you are over it and it’s life back to normal. If he did so in the first week you knew him there would be no recovering from it. Same guy, same personality, same goals, same loves, same looks, same dog same everything, yet that one screw up early on and its a whole different course in your lives and direction of your family trees.

Right now you’re thinking pissing you off is a lot different than calling or not calling and it is. However the result might not be that much different. Butterfly effect.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
“Game”? I never had it. When I tried to be something I wasn’t, It made me uncomfortable as hell, so it stopped pretty fast.

Also, for the record, I rarely made getting laid a priority. All I cared about was having fun, no matter where I was and who I was with, period.

What I did have:

  1. I genuinely like women. I like listening to what they have to say, as you can find out just as much about them, by what they DON’T say.

  2. I’m sincere. I believe in meaning what you say, and saying what you mean. Man or woman, i’m not going to kiss your ass or bullshit you.

  3. You’re “friend zoned” from the start. If we hit it off, then we’ll decide where it goes from there.

  4. I just like having fun. I’m easily amused, so i’m going to have a good time either way.

For an average guy in almost every way… i’ve done ok with just this.

I’ve seen what many women have gone through when it comes to men, and I can understand why they “be crazy”.
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I think your my brother (or uncle) from another mother (or aunt).

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
Reading Orion’s posts is even worse than reading the nonsense X writes when he tries to argue about nothing.

The “game”? PUA? haha, gimme a break.

But I see how this crap can be attractive to some guys.[/quote]

Thank you kind Sir for that well thought out reply and let me assure you that it is very appreciated.

Next time I see anything like this, I will know not to be fooled.

Cold daytime approach to strong hair twirling in just over 3 minutes:

[/quote]

This is stupid. First of all it was probably all set up, the girl is probably a wannabe actress. In the off chance I’m wrong about that, it’s still stupid to conclude interest from the hair twirling she was doing. There’s another time girls hair-twirl. It’s when they are nervous or uncomfortable and that is what that was. Or, as I said, a big act. That guy scored absolutely nothing except getting to talk with a beautiful girl for a few minutes.[/quote]

Oh please, he puts up everything, his hits, his misses, he gets progressively better in time, from ackward to awesome.

You know what, fly to London, offer him some lucre and he will demonstrate it.

That is what the game is about.

What you belief is “possible” is bullshit.

You can do and be more.

Much more. [/quote]

Sure, but that guy didn’t pick up that chick.

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[quote]tunacake wrote:
I want to share my bad experiences due to language and culture barriers regarding “gameness”. I am from Mexico and I have always been lucky with the girls I’m not even sure what of all the crap I say is what hits the spot when I’m trying to connect with a girl.

Anyways, until I was 18 and finally broke up with a girlfriend that pretty much manipulated my life I started going out a little more and realized that getting girls wasn’t so hard after all. I spent about a year dating random women and having sex (the cold bitch I had for a girlfriend didn’t let me have sex with her but I was too dumb to end the relationship and it lasted for too long) thus making my confidence go as high as it could possibly be.

Then, I decided to come and study here as a Visa Student and started knowing people from different parts of the world, turns out, people here have very different approaches to this stuff and I’m pretty much dead on the water right now. I have no idea how to talk to women here and even though I am able to write in English I am not able to talk very fluently and have become really shy. I have to wait for long weekends and short semester breaks to be able to go to Mexico every now and then and have sex so it has been a little frustrating for me. Just wanted to share something with you guys![/quote]
You’re not the only one. I’m American and tend to have more ‘success’ in Europe or Mexico/Dominican Republic (only places I’ve been South of the border).

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
Reading Orion’s posts is even worse than reading the nonsense X writes when he tries to argue about nothing.

The “game”? PUA? haha, gimme a break.

But I see how this crap can be attractive to some guys.[/quote]

Thank you kind Sir for that well thought out reply and let me assure you that it is very appreciated.

Next time I see anything like this, I will know not to be fooled.

Cold daytime approach to strong hair twirling in just over 3 minutes:

[/quote]

This is stupid. First of all it was probably all set up, the girl is probably a wannabe actress. In the off chance I’m wrong about that, it’s still stupid to conclude interest from the hair twirling she was doing. There’s another time girls hair-twirl. It’s when they are nervous or uncomfortable and that is what that was. Or, as I said, a big act. That guy scored absolutely nothing except getting to talk with a beautiful girl for a few minutes.[/quote]

Oh please, he puts up everything, his hits, his misses, he gets progressively better in time, from ackward to awesome.

You know what, fly to London, offer him some lucre and he will demonstrate it.

That is what the game is about.

What you belief is “possible” is bullshit.

You can do and be more.

Much more. [/quote]

Sure, but that guy didn’t pick up that chick.
[/quote]

Yeah, the earth is flat, nothing heavier than air can fly, if you truly believe it, this is your reality.

I have posted his website, check it out or dont.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

This is the same guy who did that Miami Zombie prank[/quote]

Daniella is ridiculously cute and that guy was doing well with her despite his pickup strategies not because of them.

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He doesn’t have any pickup strategies. His whole `schtick’ is proving that anyone can be successful with girls if you’re confident and funny (emphasis on funny, which is tries to prove through by saying outrageous things in his interactions). Check out his Youtube channel and the video where he sticks hair all over his body and tries to pick up chicks.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
He doesn’t have any pickup strategies. His whole `schtick’ is proving that anyone can be successful with girls if you’re confident and funny (emphasis on funny, which is tries to prove through by saying outrageous things in his interactions). Check out his Youtube channel and the video where he sticks hair all over his body and tries to pick up chicks. [/quote]

Are you the crazy?

Look, I will teach you the best pick up line EVA.

Enormous successm rate, it is practically magic.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Apocalypse Opener:

Me: Hi.

G: Hi.

G: blablabla…

Me: blablabla what are you doing today?

G: Blablabla

Me: Would you like to come home with me?

Girl: O_O

Hold…

Hold…

Hold…

Hold still more…

Motherfucking hold…

G: teeheehee…

Me: :slight_smile:

In this case there no prepared anythings, there are no gimmicks, there is no room to backtrack, hide or bullshit your way out.

The whole secret is that you hold your frame for at least 30 seconds.

40 to 50% you will at least get her number.

Ah, you think that is easy?

Go ahead and try it and then come back and tell me that inner game and frame control is bullshit.

You will fold like a wet napkin.

I did.

There is no shame in that, but you should recognize the skill involved.

The best part is not you closure rate, it is her reaction.

If you can pull that off, with a women you have nver seen before, look at her eyes.

And I want you to count out 30 seconds, just to see how long that actually is in a social situation. And if it takes an eternity, you canno cave in.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

This is not entirely true. I fall into the category of ‘better not screw up an initial yes’ but there are guys who can turn a no into a yes. I’ve seen it plenty of times.[/quote]

Yes, 'cos the girls had given them a chance – 2 mins or more to blab their way through a yes.

How about the girls who actually don’t even want to hear from a ‘‘no’’ guy. A simple ‘‘fuck off’’ look will suffice.

That ‘‘can I buy you a drink’’ line irks me to no end. ‘‘I got my own, thanks. Now please can I enjoy my time? You’re invading my space.’’ or, ‘‘I love the look of that jacket,’’ as a guy told me earlier tonight. ‘‘It’s so beautiful like you.’’ comes closer to stroke jacket. ‘‘Is that leather?’’ - ‘‘Yes it is, thank you. It cost 2000 bucks. Can you afford it? I can sell it to you.’’ … and this is only when I’m in a polite mood.

When I’m not interested, I don’t even look at you twice. When you’re a ‘‘no’’ guy, you’re a ‘‘NO’’ guy. Period. I don’t see why I should even waste some guy or gal’s time when I ain’t even attracted, only in the hopes I may change my mind once I realise they have a great personality or a fantastic sense of humour. I can’t pretend to be attracted when they could use that time to catch other fish.

And as a bisexual woman, when it comes to getting girls, I become the hunter and that’s another story but I don’t rely of stupid games to draw them to me.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
He doesn’t have any pickup strategies. His whole `schtick’ is proving that anyone can be successful with girls if you’re confident and funny (emphasis on funny, which is tries to prove through by saying outrageous things in his interactions). Check out his Youtube channel and the video where he sticks hair all over his body and tries to pick up chicks. [/quote]

Are you the crazy?

Look, I will teach you the best pick up line EVA.

Enormous successm rate, it is practically magic.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Apocalypse Opener:

Me: Hi.

G: Hi.

G: blablabla…

Me: blablabla what are you doing today?

G: Blablabla

Me: Would you like to come home with me?

Girl: O_O

Hold…

Hold…

Hold…

Hold still more…

Motherfucking hold…

G: teeheehee…

Me: :slight_smile:

In this case there no prepared anythings, there are no gimmicks, there is no room to backtrack, hide or bullshit your way out.

The whole secret is that you hold your frame for at least 30 seconds.

40 to 50% you will at least get her number.

Ah, you think that is easy?

Go ahead and try it and then come back and tell me that inner game and frame control is bullshit.

You will fold like a wet napkin.

I did.

There is no shame in that, but you should recognize the skill involved.

The best part is not you closure rate, it is her reaction.

If you can pull that off, with a women you have nver seen before, look at her eyes.

And I want you to count out 30 seconds, just to see how long that actually is in a social situation. And if it takes an eternity, you canno cave in.[/quote]

THE APOCALYPSE OPENER, seen one guy do it, hilarious.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

And as a bisexual woman, when it comes to getting girls, I become the hunter and that’s another story but I don’t rely of stupid games to draw them to me.
[/quote]

Ah, they just fall into your lap, beging you to please them?

Lucky you.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

And as a bisexual woman, when it comes to getting girls, I become the hunter and that’s another story but I don’t rely of stupid games to draw them to me.
[/quote]

Ah, they just fall into your lap, beging you to please them?

Lucky you.[/quote]

Hell yeah, O.

Lucky me.