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Off Topic Rate My Physique Photos
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[quote]Dylanj wrote:
zraw wrote:

-Maybe I looked better before, maybe not.

imo you look better than before… no homo. always good to see ppl dedicated to the cause enough to not care about having abs. shows true dedication. but, thats just what i value.
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Agreed. He can get his abs back later after another 30 or 40 lbs of muscle. All the guys criticizing him on this thread have no development to speak of. I’m thinking their actually jealous of his progress so they resort to Internet attacks.

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ive been “bulking” for like 2 years straight.

how much have you increased your lifts by and weight by?

its hard to tell from the angle but your legs look pretty similar in size. but if youve increased your weight used for a lot then obviously youve made improvements.

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[quote]ZombieNation88 wrote:
“Ya, I’m like halfway through my mass phase, gonna take it off lata. Ya,I gained like, 15 Inches everyware! Fuckin strong as shit!”

Randman:
Thats the most bullshit thing I’ve ever heard.

If thats seriously you in your profile than wtf.
7 years u look about the same as me after 2 major shoulder surgeries and a ruptured disk over the summer (Made roofing a bitch lol.)And what are u like, 30? That mass/cut must really, really, really, really be working for ya.

“Significantly bigger and leaner” what were you before? A legless asian midget?

H.I.T and paying attention to Insulin = Muscle Gains
“Body Builder” style and “Mass phase”= Not getting laid.

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thats cool bro. we’ll gladly take your advice when you accomplish something.

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OP, if you’re doing DC you know how to react to criticism. Look at the bright side, you smoothed out but you gained size, lats and your hairline isn;t receding faster than the economy.
Don;t get me wrong, I;m sure a bald pale skinny guy with abs will get laid at the drop of a hat.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
ive been “bulking” for like 2 years straight.

how much have you increased your lifts by and weight by?

its hard to tell from the angle but your legs look pretty similar in size. but if youve increased your weight used for a lot then obviously youve made improvements.[/quote]

Yeah for the legs I think i’d really need to take measurements, its pretty hard to tell when there is nothing to compare to, but I had to switch jeans size not cause my waist wouldnt fit anymore but cause my legs wouldnt.

Weight increased by 25 pounds (not pretending thats all muscle tough lol)

As for lifts, on my page I have a training log going on in my “forum favorites”

I do not straight bench anymore (but can do 325 on decline for 6 reps) (old bench 1rm was 315)
I dont deadlift anymore, but I rack dead 435 for 6 reps (deadlift pr used to be 385…)
My 1rm squat was 365, I now do that for 7 reps
I

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
OP, if you’re doing DC you know how to react to criticism. Look at the bright side, you smoothed out but you gained size, lats and your hairline isn;t receding faster than the economy.
Don;t get me wrong, I;m sure a bald pale skinny guy with abs will get laid at the drop of a hat.
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LOLLL !

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Zraw, good results. Keep up the hard work, I can definitely tell a difference, especially in the lats.

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I have been trying not to involve my own endeavors, failures or successes in conversation with others.
However, since I don’t have a better example, I’ll present a time line of my own progression to aid in illustrating an concrete application of my recommendation(above mentioned).

Height: 176 cm or roughly 5’ 9’’
March 15, 2005(no weight training history) some jogging, pick up soccer games.

135 lbs BW
Waist measurement(thickest):35.5 inches
Biceps R/L average(flexed): 13.75 inches

Training: Total body, 3-4 times per week, no detailed record.
No dietary record.

November 18, 2005

155 lbs BW
Waist measurement: 34.5 inches
Chest(nipple height): 37.75 inches
Biceps: 14.25 inches

Training: interval sprinting 2x per week, weight training 1-3x per week TBT(BB squats, pushups, pull-ups)with very little(maybe 10 sec. rest) details missing.
Nutrition: No sugar, sweets, pasta, potatoes. Carbs only from variety of veggies, fruits indiscriminantly. 1-2 pounds of fresh meats daily, also indiscriminant.

January 7, 2006
143 lbs BW
Waist: 32’’
Chest: 37.5’’
Biceps: 14.25’’
Thigh, thickest(flexed):24.5’’

Training: 4 day upper/lower split, Dumbbell pressing/pulling, front squats(full)/DL(barbell), misc. unilateral movements and mobility/stability. Steady state fasted cardio as needed.
Nutrition: Started logging all food intake and times.
30 percent estimated surplus(obviously less over time).
Moderate carbs 150-200g per diem plus PWO recovery drink.
Details available.

September 23, 2008(105 weeks after initiation of ‘‘bulk’’)
203 lbs BW
Waist: 33.5’’
Chest: 42.5’’
Biceps:16.5’’
Thigh: 28.75’’
Calves: 16.0’’
Neck: 17’’
Caliper tested(5 point,7 point): 12.3,12.1 percent BF

CURRENT training and nutrition: ‘‘Get Shredded’’ model
Making good progress, no updated stats yet.

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We got some hating going on.

To those man tanned, Bodybuilding fucks who spend 3 hours a day in the gym…

To anyone who grew up outside of the working class…

to anyone who hasn’t tried to come back from massive injury…

Shut the fuck up u got no idea.

Whole familiy = Marine Corps/farmers, bikers.
I know what strong is.

Try going to school full time with the inability to move your arm (first left, then right) for 2 semesters. Try having to fuckin do grunt work for $6.75 AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME WITH ONE ARM so u can help pay for ur school… so your parents can keep on feeding the white collar retarded motherfuckers who never worked a day in their lives who take all the crazy awesome shit they get in life for granted.

You have no idea who the hell I even am punkass. Let alone what I’ve been through. I got told in 8th grade I could never play football again.I played fucking d7 and still got recruited to play ball in college.

I LOST 40 FUCKING POUNDS AFTER THE OPERATIONS! MUSCLE!!!
BENCH = 0, PULLUPS = 0, CURL = 0. I couldn’t lift a fucking peice of paper off a table.

And how did we pay for them surgeries? LOL military paid because my dad came back from Nam all fucked up and I’ve got 2 brothers serving RIGHT NOW. Signed letter of intent last year so I’ll be going off when I graduate, maby before.

So if you wanna say “I’ll listen to you when you acomplish somthing”, start listening.

I’ll listen to you fucks when you accomplish somthing.

(By the way, “not being tan” is an insult here? Probobally the gayest thing I’ve ever heard.)

Lol hate on my physique all u want, there I am, No one here worth my time anyway.

Ha ha this shits worse than facebook.

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woah major hijack. Use your own thread lol :slight_smile:

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[quote]ZombieNation88 wrote:
We got some hating going on.

To those man tanned, Bodybuilding fucks who spend 3 hours a day in the gym…

To anyone who grew up outside of the working class…

to anyone who hasn’t tried to come back from massive injury…

Shut the fuck up u got no idea.

Whole familiy = Marine Corps/farmers, bikers.
I know what strong is.

Try going to school full time with the inability to move your arm (first left, then right) for 2 semesters. Try having to fuckin do grunt work for $6.75 AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME WITH ONE ARM so u can help pay for ur school… so your parents can keep on feeding the white collar retarded motherfuckers who never worked a day in their lives who take all the crazy awesome shit they get in life for granted.

You have no idea who the hell I even am punkass. Let alone what I’ve been through. I got told in 8th grade I could never play football again.I played fucking d7 and still got recruited to play ball in college.

I LOST 40 FUCKING POUNDS AFTER THE OPERATIONS! MUSCLE!!!
BENCH = 0, PULLUPS = 0, CURL = 0. I couldn’t lift a fucking peice of paper off a table.

And how did we pay for them surgeries? LOL military paid because my dad came back from Nam all fucked up and I’ve got 2 brothers serving RIGHT NOW. Signed letter of intent last year so I’ll be going off when I graduate, maby before.

So if you wanna say “I’ll listen to you when you acomplish somthing”, start listening.

I’ll listen to you fucks when you accomplish somthing.

(By the way, “not being tan” is an insult here? Probobally the gayest thing I’ve ever heard.)

Lol hate on my physique all u want, there I am, No one here worth my time anyway.

Ha ha this shits worse than facebook.

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Well boo hoo, both my parents went to college for 5-6 years, got GOOD jobs, and both work and make about 350k a year combined income easily.

They pay for my college, I have alot of crazy awesome shit that I never earned in anyway besides being born.

I got a car, a full ride in college, living expenses, I grew up in a huge house, we have boats, jetskis, an RV, you name it.

My parents got an education so that they could afford to provide for their children.

They went to college and got kick ass jobs so that I can go to college and get a kick ass job.

And Ill do the same thing for my kids.

There, does me rambling about my life in suburbia, prove anything to anyone about fitness and lifting ?

Absolutely fucking not, so stop whining. “Boo hoo I was poor” then fucking make sure your kids aren’t poor.

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ZombieNation you’re a pretty weird guy.

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zraw,that is a decent bulk.You defiitely gained a lot of muscle on your legs and back, and overall you are wider.IMO, dont cut, but adjust your calorie intake to stay at the this weight for some time, and hopefully you will regain your previous definition.I also think that you didnt gain a lot of fat, but rather you are retaining water that is blurring away some definition.Good job man.

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zraw that looks like a successful bulk to me. Calves particularly look improved.

Its a shame zombienation88 and toohuman have posted such weird shit

good work

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Lats look better.
Quads look similar even though you have improved your squat, maybe the improvement came more from better back and glute strength? maybe just the photo.
Calves look heaps bigger, wat did you do for calves?
As far as body fat goes, who cares? seems like most of the big guys recon you cant put on decent size without gaining extra fat. You don’t look like a fat ass and if you had a tan like in your before pics you would look better still. i would pay attention so that it doesnt go up too much more though.

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Since someone brought it up, I feel the need to point out that you’re more doable now (even though you were pretty doable before). I’m sure you have no problems getting laid.

Good improvement.

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i actually spend 5 hours in the gym, twice a day.

i was also born in South America where i was raised in the rainforest by a troop of silverback gorillas. we killed tigers with our bare hands and ate their raw flesh. i think that IM the one who knows strong here, susan.

seriously though, ive yet to see one guy on here who claims that bulking to 15% is so damned awful who has put together half a decent physique. i thought it was common sense that if youre going to hate on someone’s method your counter method should have at least put you in shape. but then again its pretty obvious logic escapes those people to start with.

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OP, I honestly think you are putting on too much fat per lb of muscle mass currently.

I mean, you’ve gained weight, but at what cost? If you was to cut now you’d look exactly the same as before.

Now of course I know you wouldn’t cut now for the reasons above, but if your level of progress stays the same there’s a good chance your BF levels would get to an undesirable level.

You look good right now, but you should look at any changes you can make to keep gaining mass but keep your BF % roughly the same, or at least not letting it get much higher.

Just some constructive critism there for you, other than that, good job.

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[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
OP, I honestly think you are putting on too much fat per lb of muscle mass currently.

I mean, you’ve gained weight, but at what cost? If you was to cut now you’d look exactly the same as before.

Now of course I know you wouldn’t cut now for the reasons above, but if your level of progress stays the same there’s a good chance your BF levels would get to an undesirable level.

You look good right now, but you should look at any changes you can make to keep gaining mass but keep your BF % roughly the same, or at least not letting it get much higher.

Just some constructive critism there for you, other than that, good job.
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Thansk for the advice. I’d disagree with your statement about looking exactly the same if I was to cut down tough.

I was already planning to add 2-3 sessions of morning cardio + lowering the cal intake a bit (probably take out natural pb + olive oil)

P.S. I gained muscle mass at 0 cost. I can still see my top 4 abs if I flex and I have such a high speed metabolism that this extra fat can be taken off easily

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that’s a pretty good bulk IMO. you’ve definitely gained a fair bit of muscle without gaining too much fat.

Anyone who thinks that going up to 15% BF after a 25 pound weight gain is ‘gaining too much fat’ really doesn’t know much about gaining size or strength. At 15% bodyfat he probably looks better and is stronger & more athletic than the vast majority of this forum.

I’m not a fan of bulking up too much but 15% is well within the standard range of most strength and contact sport athletes, let alone someone whose focus is gaining size for bodybuilding. Even many boxers, wrestlers and MMA fighters walk around at about that weight when not specifically cutting for a fight. Personally I think 18~20%+ is about the mark someone is probably starting to go too far but the OP has done a very good job so far.