[quote]nkklllll wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
I actually know of a couple successful long term marriages where the guy is an introvert, and he balances out his wife. It’s not always the guy that has to bring the spark, a lot has to do with understanding who the other person is and what they bring to the table for your relationship.
Usually if one person is extremely outgoing it’s good for the other to be able to temper that person. And vice versa from what I’ve seen. It’s about how you can compliment one another and make one another better in the end… But, we usually don’t figure that out until we have already maybe had some kids. [/quote]
I don’t know about this. Once upon a time I thought so, opposites attract and all, but not so much anymore. I think they don’t so much balance each other as wind up forced to take turns having their needs met, and one will wind up less satisfied as the other’s preferences come to dominate. Most likely the extrovert lives a dull, quiet life so the introvert doesn’t get grumpy.
Much nicer to enjoy going out and staying in at the same rate. Sucks to be someone who likes to have parties and never can, or someone who hates crowds but has to tolerate them.[/quote]
The thing is introverts aren’t introverts all the time. We flash extroversion especially when we become familiar with situations and people we like. You should check out more info about introvert and extrovert relationships and dynamics. I think that if we are open to one another we tend to compliment one another.
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I’m pretty familiar with the dynamic. A) masters degree in This Sort of Thing, B) long marriage to an introvert, C) listen to people tell about their disappointments for a living, D) have numerous long marriages to observe up close as they succeed or fail.
It isn’t that I lack information. I simply disagree with you that it’s a model one should seek out. Certainly you shouldn’t run screaming from someone who is more or less outgoing than yourself, but having in common your basic ideas of what constitutes a good time is important, in my opinion. [/quote]
Wow that sucks to hear. Totally true about what having a good time is all about… I always thought that extroverts helped introverts stretch things and open us up…
I was thinking that a lot of introverts don’t really know the difference between fearing something and not liking it… In that sometimes we need to get over fears of things to realize we enjoy them… Like, say dogs. If you are afraid of a big 1 year old Rottweiler, it’s going to run all over you and not respect you. But, once you genuinely have the confidence and aren’t experiencing feelings of apprehension, nervous energy, or actual fear, dogs will respect you.
Maybe too idealistic as usual. That’s kinda how I was thinking of it… Knowing the difference between say your fear of dogs, that could turn into a love for dogs… And say confirming you don’t like going out and dancing salsa.
As an introvert I try things to see. I have a good idea of the sorts of things I like and dislike, but it wasn’t always like this for me. Especially learning to swim as a kid after I nearly drowned, as well as getting trampled by dogs and being afraid of them to really, really liking dogs. [/quote]
It kind of sounds like you’re equating a kind of social anxiety with introversion. And I’d also like to point out that extroverts would be just as likely to have problems with swimming and dogs as you did, assuming they had similar experiences with those things.
Also, I know personally, as another introvert, that I don’t enjoy when people try and “stretch me [out] and open me up [to new things].” It’s seldom a case of being afraid of a situation or afraid of new things (although that does play into it around large groups of people, they make me uncomfortable if I don’t know anyone), and more a case of “I just feel like staying in tonight because I’m tired, and being around a bunch of people is more taxing than it is rewarding.”
I’m not sure if I’ve ever dated an extrovert, and I’m pretty sure that my girlfriend at the moment is an introvert (though I think less of one than I am) but I definitely think introverts and extroverts could be very happy together. Provided of course that they aren’t exceedingly selfish. You know, they make time for each other’s interests, not because they should, but because that’s what happens when you care about another person, especially deeply.
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It’s kind of the point of introverts that we have extroverted qualities and we have entire extroverted periods of time when we are flowing and at our best socially… When we are like this it’s a LOT less draining than when we are our typical socially awkward selves.
People, big groups of people don’t ALWAYS cause that sort of fear/ anxiety is what I’m saying. And it’s really up to us to discover when we are really fearful, vs. simply don’t have the energy or the presence and desire to take part in social things. I know I make a bigger effort to get comfortable with social situations by preparing for them mentally well ahead of time, making sure I’m rested. The only hitch is if I start thinking about a date or a party too much, then I might actually lose sleep over it.
Also, certain things extroverts only really enjoy socially, I enjoy doing them by myself or with them. I’m usually the first to cliff dive in my group not because I seek approval of the group or want to be cool, but because I love the feeling of falling through the air. Where most of my peers only want to do it once, and will only do it if they can have their picture taken etc… There I am climbing up and down jumping in and out not waiting for anybody.
Often I have different reasons for the things I enjoy and why I take part in them than my extroverted friends. I lift for maximal strength and the primal rush of conquering heavy weight, where most of my peers lift for aesthetics or to be part of the community of fitness crossfit is another example.
For me I don’t enjoy going to the clubs and I wouldn’t do it on my own. But, I find myself having a good time depending on my dates energy and whether she is having a good time. What’s weird for me is seeing someone I’m close with, or growing close with having a good time is often a reward in itself for me, moreso than others who might just do things to part of the social dynamic and group. For me I like to try things to find out for myself what sort of fear I’m having. Whether it be anxiety and genuine lameness, or if it’s actually fear and something that if I get over it, I may enjoy.
I think a lot of introverts hide and don’t bother to learn the difference.
Maybe that has to do more with how empathetic, and into other people we are that has nothing to do with introversion or extroversion. I thought for a long time that we introverts were more empathetic, because with introspection we tend to put ourselves in the shoes of others in very forward, hypothetical and imagined situations.