[quote]Severiano wrote:
If we all agree people get what they demand or deserve, it seems to imply that life is fair. Kind of a smack in the face of Outliers. [/quote]
I agree. It’s less clear-cut than our conversation would indicate. What if you’re the soul of kindness and possessed of sterling character, but are ugly with a poorly proportioned physique?
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Glad you’re feeling better.
Have you had your T tested as all?[/quote]
Thanks!
No. I’m not even sure how to go about doing that. Contact a general practitioner or something? Also unemployed/uninsured at this point, so it would all be out of pocket.
I might have to google some stuff up and see what the process entails or check out some of the pharma/T replacement threads.
[/quote]
Yes, a general practitioner.
Congratulations on the job - is it one you’re excited about?[/quote]
Kinda. It doesn’t pay very well, but they don’t seem like the type of people to beat it out of you either. It’s a smaller family run place, which has its pros and cons but I do like more than the mega build production shop I was in last. I’ll get to brush up on some techniques and materials I’ve neglected and it is only a 10 min. drive from my house, right past the daycare I use. I don’t like not being productive, and they said they have plenty of work for as long as I want it.
So I’m looking forward to it.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Glad you’re feeling better.
Have you had your T tested as all?[/quote]
Thanks!
No. I’m not even sure how to go about doing that. Contact a general practitioner or something? Also unemployed/uninsured at this point, so it would all be out of pocket.
I might have to google some stuff up and see what the process entails or check out some of the pharma/T replacement threads.
[/quote]
Yes, a general practitioner.
Congratulations on the job - is it one you’re excited about?[/quote]
Kinda. It doesn’t pay very well, but they don’t seem like the type of people to beat it out of you either. It’s a smaller family run place, which has its pros and cons but I do like more than the mega build production shop I was in last. I’ll get to brush up on some techniques and materials I’ve neglected and it is only a 10 min. drive from my house, right past the daycare I use. I don’t like not being productive, and they said they have plenty of work for as long as I want it.
So I’m looking forward to it.
[/quote]
Excellent.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Glad you’re feeling better.
Have you had your T tested as all?[/quote]
Thanks!
No. I’m not even sure how to go about doing that. Contact a general practitioner or something? Also unemployed/uninsured at this point, so it would all be out of pocket.
I might have to google some stuff up and see what the process entails or check out some of the pharma/T replacement threads.
[/quote]
If you’re uninsured, get your labs done through privatemdlabs.com. Order the Female Hormone Panel, and post it over in the T-Replacement forum. It’ll cost you $52 using the coupon on the website.
If you go to your GP, the appointment will run you $85, the labs will run you $500, and you’ll have to make a follow up appointment for him to interpret the labs for you.
Much more cost effective to do it the way I’ve outlined. If you need more guidance, either ask in the T Replacement forum, or contact me on the other site.
My 1:00 appointment has no-showed and for a change I’m all caught up on paperwork and phone calls, so I thought I’d process some feelings.
I’m falling at dizzying speed for Hockey, and it’s scaring me. I don’t know what to do with the intensity of my feelings, which are basically: liking, admiration, and - scariest of all - tentative trust. Everything I want and need is there, including the sex drive and dirty mind. With Tim I was never scared because I knew all along that it probably couldn’t and shouldn’t last.
Now I’m scared. I hate being scared.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
My 1:00 appointment has no-showed and for a change I’m all caught up on paperwork and phone calls, so I thought I’d process some feelings.
I’m falling at dizzying speed for Hockey, and it’s scaring me. I don’t know what to do with the intensity of my feelings, which are basically: liking, admiration, and - scariest of all - tentative trust. Everything I want and need is there, including the sex drive and dirty mind. With Tim I was never scared because I knew all along that it probably couldn’t and shouldn’t last.
Now I’m scared. I hate being scared.[/quote]
Sounds like you’re only scared because you think you’re supposed to be scared.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
My 1:00 appointment has no-showed and for a change I’m all caught up on paperwork and phone calls, so I thought I’d process some feelings.
I’m falling at dizzying speed for Hockey, and it’s scaring me. I don’t know what to do with the intensity of my feelings, which are basically: liking, admiration, and - scariest of all - tentative trust. Everything I want and need is there, including the sex drive and dirty mind. With Tim I was never scared because I knew all along that it probably couldn’t and shouldn’t last.
Now I’m scared. I hate being scared.[/quote]
Sounds like you’re only scared because you think you’re supposed to be scared.[/quote]
Wouldn’t you be scared? Trust is hard, yo. What if he changes his mind about me? What if orion is right about nice guys and I wind up being horrible and unappreciative because of my hamster and then change my mind about him?
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Glad you’re feeling better.
Have you had your T tested as all?[/quote]
Thanks!
No. I’m not even sure how to go about doing that. Contact a general practitioner or something? Also unemployed/uninsured at this point, so it would all be out of pocket.
I might have to google some stuff up and see what the process entails or check out some of the pharma/T replacement threads.
[/quote]
If you’re uninsured, get your labs done through privatemdlabs.com. Order the Female Hormone Panel, and post it over in the T-Replacement forum. It’ll cost you $52 using the coupon on the website.
If you go to your GP, the appointment will run you $85, the labs will run you $500, and you’ll have to make a follow up appointment for him to interpret the labs for you.
Much more cost effective to do it the way I’ve outlined. If you need more guidance, either ask in the T Replacement forum, or contact me on the other site.
[/quote]
Doc, you might be the person to ask. For quite some time, I’ve suspected I’ve got issues with high estrogen (and pooossssssibly low T as a result of high E).
I had thought about getting that exact female hormone panel, but was wondering if serum estradiol (what’s tested in the female hormone panel) is what I’m looking for to be tested? (As opposed to estriol or estrone)
I know very little about blood testing, but have heard that there are differences between “free hormone” or “total hormone” or “serum hormone” etc, so I’m just curious if you knew if that test would be helpful.
Thanks!
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
My 1:00 appointment has no-showed and for a change I’m all caught up on paperwork and phone calls, so I thought I’d process some feelings.
I’m falling at dizzying speed for Hockey, and it’s scaring me. I don’t know what to do with the intensity of my feelings, which are basically: liking, admiration, and - scariest of all - tentative trust. Everything I want and need is there, including the sex drive and dirty mind. With Tim I was never scared because I knew all along that it probably couldn’t and shouldn’t last.
Now I’m scared. I hate being scared.[/quote]
Sounds like you’re only scared because you think you’re supposed to be scared.[/quote]
Wouldn’t you be scared? Trust is hard, yo. What if he changes his mind about me? What if orion is right about nice guys and I wind up being horrible and unappreciative because of my hamster and then change my mind about him?[/quote]
You can alway step back a little and create a power vacuum that he can fill.
Then you drop hints so that he can properly lead.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
I feel much better knowing I didn’t end the thread.[/quote]
It was ORION. He did it![/quote]
Yup.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Glad you’re feeling better.
Have you had your T tested as all?[/quote]
Thanks!
No. I’m not even sure how to go about doing that. Contact a general practitioner or something? Also unemployed/uninsured at this point, so it would all be out of pocket.
I might have to google some stuff up and see what the process entails or check out some of the pharma/T replacement threads.
[/quote]
If you’re uninsured, get your labs done through privatemdlabs.com. Order the Female Hormone Panel, and post it over in the T-Replacement forum. It’ll cost you $52 using the coupon on the website.
If you go to your GP, the appointment will run you $85, the labs will run you $500, and you’ll have to make a follow up appointment for him to interpret the labs for you.
Much more cost effective to do it the way I’ve outlined. If you need more guidance, either ask in the T Replacement forum, or contact me on the other site.
[/quote]
Doc, you might be the person to ask. For quite some time, I’ve suspected I’ve got issues with high estrogen (and pooossssssibly low T as a result of high E).
I had thought about getting that exact female hormone panel, but was wondering if serum estradiol (what’s tested in the female hormone panel) is what I’m looking for to be tested? (As opposed to estriol or estrone)
I know very little about blood testing, but have heard that there are differences between “free hormone” or “total hormone” or “serum hormone” etc, so I’m just curious if you knew if that test would be helpful.
Thanks! [/quote]
lol, I’m actually not a Dr., I just play one on the internet. But yes, I’ve used privatemdlabs around a dozen times myself and that is the correct estradiol test.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Glad you’re feeling better.
Have you had your T tested as all?[/quote]
Thanks!
No. I’m not even sure how to go about doing that. Contact a general practitioner or something? Also unemployed/uninsured at this point, so it would all be out of pocket.
I might have to google some stuff up and see what the process entails or check out some of the pharma/T replacement threads.
[/quote]
If you’re uninsured, get your labs done through privatemdlabs.com. Order the Female Hormone Panel, and post it over in the T-Replacement forum. It’ll cost you $52 using the coupon on the website.
If you go to your GP, the appointment will run you $85, the labs will run you $500, and you’ll have to make a follow up appointment for him to interpret the labs for you.
Much more cost effective to do it the way I’ve outlined. If you need more guidance, either ask in the T Replacement forum, or contact me on the other site.
[/quote]
Doc, you might be the person to ask. For quite some time, I’ve suspected I’ve got issues with high estrogen (and pooossssssibly low T as a result of high E).
I had thought about getting that exact female hormone panel, but was wondering if serum estradiol (what’s tested in the female hormone panel) is what I’m looking for to be tested? (As opposed to estriol or estrone)
I know very little about blood testing, but have heard that there are differences between “free hormone” or “total hormone” or “serum hormone” etc, so I’m just curious if you knew if that test would be helpful.
Thanks! [/quote]
lol, I’m actually not a Dr., I just play one on the internet. But yes, I’ve used privatemdlabs around a dozen times myself and that is the correct estradiol test.
[/quote]
Jean Marie Arouet “Candide”.
Ja.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Glad you’re feeling better.
Have you had your T tested as all?[/quote]
Thanks!
No. I’m not even sure how to go about doing that. Contact a general practitioner or something? Also unemployed/uninsured at this point, so it would all be out of pocket.
I might have to google some stuff up and see what the process entails or check out some of the pharma/T replacement threads.
[/quote]
If you’re uninsured, get your labs done through privatemdlabs.com. Order the Female Hormone Panel, and post it over in the T-Replacement forum. It’ll cost you $52 using the coupon on the website.
If you go to your GP, the appointment will run you $85, the labs will run you $500, and you’ll have to make a follow up appointment for him to interpret the labs for you.
Much more cost effective to do it the way I’ve outlined. If you need more guidance, either ask in the T Replacement forum, or contact me on the other site.
[/quote]
Doc, you might be the person to ask. For quite some time, I’ve suspected I’ve got issues with high estrogen (and pooossssssibly low T as a result of high E).
I had thought about getting that exact female hormone panel, but was wondering if serum estradiol (what’s tested in the female hormone panel) is what I’m looking for to be tested? (As opposed to estriol or estrone)
I know very little about blood testing, but have heard that there are differences between “free hormone” or “total hormone” or “serum hormone” etc, so I’m just curious if you knew if that test would be helpful.
Thanks! [/quote]
For reference, if you want to really get into a discussion about this, the T-Replacement forum is a great resource.
As for this specific question, serum estradiol is indeed the correct test because as a male your specific concern is aromatization of testosterone. Now, this could work two ways: you have high testosterone levels, which results in both high serum T as well as high serum E. Or, the far worse case, is that you have low T levels because you are aromatizing free testosterone into estradiol at a high rate that is ‘stealing’ from your serum T levels.
This is not my specific realm of expertise though and if you want greater detail I suggest going to the other board, where there are people who actually work in the field offering their knowledge.
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Glad you’re feeling better.
Have you had your T tested as all?[/quote]
Thanks!
No. I’m not even sure how to go about doing that. Contact a general practitioner or something? Also unemployed/uninsured at this point, so it would all be out of pocket.
I might have to google some stuff up and see what the process entails or check out some of the pharma/T replacement threads.
[/quote]
If you’re uninsured, get your labs done through privatemdlabs.com. Order the Female Hormone Panel, and post it over in the T-Replacement forum. It’ll cost you $52 using the coupon on the website.
If you go to your GP, the appointment will run you $85, the labs will run you $500, and you’ll have to make a follow up appointment for him to interpret the labs for you.
Much more cost effective to do it the way I’ve outlined. If you need more guidance, either ask in the T Replacement forum, or contact me on the other site.
[/quote]
Doc, you might be the person to ask. For quite some time, I’ve suspected I’ve got issues with high estrogen (and pooossssssibly low T as a result of high E).
I had thought about getting that exact female hormone panel, but was wondering if serum estradiol (what’s tested in the female hormone panel) is what I’m looking for to be tested? (As opposed to estriol or estrone)
I know very little about blood testing, but have heard that there are differences between “free hormone” or “total hormone” or “serum hormone” etc, so I’m just curious if you knew if that test would be helpful.
Thanks! [/quote]
For reference, if you want to really get into a discussion about this, the T-Replacement forum is a great resource.
As for this specific question, serum estradiol is indeed the correct test because as a male your specific concern is aromatization of testosterone. Now, this could work two ways: you have high testosterone levels, which results in both high serum T as well as high serum E. Or, the far worse case, is that you have low T levels because you are aromatizing free testosterone into estradiol at a high rate that is ‘stealing’ from your serum T levels.
This is not my specific realm of expertise though and if you want greater detail I suggest going to the other board, where there are people who actually work in the field offering their knowledge.[/quote]
Thanks!
But yes, I don’t want to turn this thread into that discussion.
Carry on with feelings.
[quote]orion wrote:
You can alway step back a little and create a power vacuum that he can fill.
Then you drop hints so that he can properly lead. [/quote]
orion why u make things harder for us?
FTR Em I was always on team Hockey-guy.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I told Hockey about TNation this weekend, and my campaign to date and choose better. He handled being told that his behavior and character have been dissected on a bodybuilding forum very well.
[/quote]
Oh boy. LOL.
This must be getting serious for this shoe to drop.
[/quote]
Ha! You’re totally right! I told him about having been a high school dropout, runaway, and filthy street urchin weeks ago.
It took a lot longer to confess about this, lol.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
My 1:00 appointment has no-showed and for a change I’m all caught up on paperwork and phone calls, so I thought I’d process some feelings.
I’m falling at dizzying speed for Hockey, and it’s scaring me. I don’t know what to do with the intensity of my feelings, which are basically: liking, admiration, and - scariest of all - tentative trust. Everything I want and need is there, including the sex drive and dirty mind. With Tim I was never scared because I knew all along that it probably couldn’t and shouldn’t last.
Now I’m scared. I hate being scared.[/quote]
Sounds like you’re only scared because you think you’re supposed to be scared.[/quote]
Wouldn’t you be scared? Trust is hard, yo. What if he changes his mind about me? What if orion is right about nice guys and I wind up being horrible and unappreciative because of my hamster and then change my mind about him?[/quote]
You can alway step back a little and create a power vacuum that he can fill.
Then you drop hints so that he can properly lead. [/quote]
I’m not even sure what you’re saying here. lol
Expand? Because it sounds as I read it like manipulation, or topping from the bottom.