[quote]Andrew Dixon wrote:
Is there actual debate that World Entertainment Wrestling is fake?
Its a soap opera stunt show. [/quote]
apparantly there is. and i’m the dumb ass for calling it fake. very strange.
and in pennsylvania, they call friends couples.
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
texasguy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
This is very easily the dumbest discussion ever.
Blasphemy. This is obviously no more than number 5 or 6 in a list of 5,600,756 dumb threads. Doesn’t “obese guy lifting backyard debris for toughness” beat “look how huge Brock Lesner is!”?
Texasguy’s posts alone almost put it over the top though. I personally give it a 3.2 on a sliding scale.
yes because fake wrestling is real.
nuh-uh
bodybuilding’s fake! You already know what’s going to happen because it’s predetermined. I could tell you what happens at the next olympia if I saw the last one, it’s something like this:
Guys come out on stage and flex in countless positions which are PRE DETERMINED!!!(FAKEFAKEFAKE) Then they all have their own individual time to pose (predetermined AGAAAAIN!) and then they have the challenge round. So therefore since professional bodybuilders use steroids, and it’s predetermined, it’s FAKE.[/quote]
in body building, basketball, football, wrestling etc you do have pre set rules, plays and predictable games. you don’t have predetermined outcomes.
in body building, the competition lies with the judges score on each body. the positions give the judges a view to make a judgement.
kobe bryant isn’t told to sink his third shot, miss his fourth and then get fouled and make both freethrows so that a pre-determined score and victory can be fulfilled.
football teams aren’t instructed to drop passes, intentionally fumble etc.
WWE entertainers are told to intentionally miss punches (fake punches), they are told to allow themselves when to be slammed and how, and they know who the winner is before they ever start. there is no real competition and if you think it is a real competition you have some issues.
it is pre-determined and therefore entertainment, not sport.
and steroids have fuck all to do with any of it. you are combining two seperate discussions and doing so out of context. steroids don’t make a sport real or fake. the steroid comment was in acknowledgement of brock lessners drop in physique when he went from the WWE to MMA, as well as observations of other WWE performers and the fact that the WWE is not tested by any sports commission, so they get away with steroids, which make them bigger, stronger and more marketable for entertainment purposes.
2 seperate conversations. try to stay on topic.
i’m wondering what the IQ level of some of you posters is.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
texasguy wrote:
bauer, i don’t swing that way. but if being a faggot is your thing, more power to you. for now though, your fantasy will have to remain a fantasy.
i’d be grumpy too though if i knew deep down that my favorite sport wasn’t really a sport and that my favorite athletes were not really athletes. at least not while participating in the WWE. so i can understand your feelings even if they are stupid.
I actually wasn’t immediately jumping to thoughts of you and your equally annoying IrishMuscle counterpart having gay sex with each other, but I’m glad to see where your head’s at. I was more thinking you’d just enjoy each others company, since I can’t imagine anybody else does.
I also must have missed where I said WWE wrestling is my “favorite sport”. You’re a moron, and a moron who has yet to espouse even a single bit of worthwhile training advice on this site. Keep on trolling.[/quote]
ah. so couple to you is friends? what do call your call your best friend then? is he your soul mate? i bet you make a cute couple.
[quote]texasguy wrote:
i’m wondering what the IQ level of some of you posters is. [/quote]
Judging from your grammar and punctuation, yours lingers somewhere around the mid-40s.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
texasguy wrote:
i’m wondering what the IQ level of some of you posters is.
Judging from your grammar and punctuation, yours lingers somewhere around the mid-40s.
[/quote]
actually it is 132. when i want to write and proof read a thesis on a chat forum that believes fake wrestling is a real sport, i’ll let you know.
[quote]texasguy wrote:
analog_kid wrote:
texasguy wrote:
i’m wondering what the IQ level of some of you posters is.
Judging from your grammar and punctuation, yours lingers somewhere around the mid-40s.
actually it is 132. when i want to write and proof read a thesis on a chat forum that believes fake wrestling is a real sport, i’ll let you know. [/quote]
Can you get a note from your mom? I don’t believe you.
[quote]Ruggerlife wrote:
Majin wrote:
And although many threads do have that tendency it is not the case with ALL threads and it certainly doesn’t mean it should be accepted. The best threads have no trouble staying on the subject or expanding on it.
Agreed. I was just messing with you.
On topic-
Did you see the fight? Any thoughts on Brock’s performance and/or prospects?[/quote]
I think it’s still to early to say how he will fare against top-of-the-crop fighters, but he definitely has serious potential to be a big deal. Hope he achieves that.
[quote]Majin wrote:
Ruggerlife wrote:
Majin wrote:
And although many threads do have that tendency it is not the case with ALL threads and it certainly doesn’t mean it should be accepted. The best threads have no trouble staying on the subject or expanding on it.
Agreed. I was just messing with you.
On topic-
Did you see the fight? Any thoughts on Brock’s performance and/or prospects?
I think it’s still to early to say how he will fare against top-of-the-crop fighters, but he definitely has serious potential to be a big deal. Hope he achieves that. [/quote]
No Doubt about that if sticks with K-1 they`re just going to stick him with the rest of the freakshows. Hes like the Equviliant of Bob Sapp and Giant Silva.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
texasguy wrote:
analog_kid wrote:
texasguy wrote:
i’m wondering what the IQ level of some of you posters is.
Judging from your grammar and punctuation, yours lingers somewhere around the mid-40s.
actually it is 132. when i want to write and proof read a thesis on a chat forum that believes fake wrestling is a real sport, i’ll let you know.
Can you get a note from your mom? I don’t believe you.
[/quote]
typical. “i don’t believe you” is pretty played out.
i’m flattered by your jealousy though.
either way, fake wrestling isn’t real, and 150 lbs for ten reps is weak.
i can tell from your pictures why that would offend you though.
[quote]texasguy wrote:
i’m wondering what the IQ level of some of you posters is. [/quote]
Is there a minimum IQ level to sense sarcasm?
Guys enough of the senseless pissing contest - not like this one has not been beat to death a thousand times for years (the pro wrestling thing).
Back to the subject…
Lesner’s debut was impressive.It was certainly against an overmatched opponent, but I am interested to see how he does in MMA. Probably will not make it to the top, but he has the physical tools - BIG, fast, agile, and aggresive. Guess it will come down to his training and time will tell. Regardless, he’s good for the sport and interesting.
[quote]Robert P. wrote:
Kill’Em All wrote:
Im talking most PRO olympia ish bodybuilders most tip over 300 off season!
This may surprise you, but there are actually pro bodybuilders who don’t compete in the Olympia and aren’t ever 300lbs, even in the off-season. Shocking, but true.[/quote]
you guys are like talking to little kids I guess I should be exact with you.
im talking Top percetage of professional bodybuilders. and professional shows., as he is a umm PROFESSIONAL.
[quote]texasguy wrote:
Kill’Em All wrote:
whatever man, he’s just a big dude, his legs are pretty small, and his upper body isn’t that impressive just looks like a big lumber jack dude.
those stats might be taken for ALL football players, but not starters.
Most defensive linemen are close to 300 and the ones that are 260 ish are fast mean ass kicking machines. Does jevon kearse come to mind? Most linebackers could flatten him on his back.
Here is an example take a look at thomas jones he is fin thick and developed not just a genetic lumber jack.
Im talking most PRO olympia ish bodybuilders most tip over 300 off season!
most defensive linemen are very fat too. trim that off of them and they’d be smaller than lesner.
they are not weak, but they are not strong for their weight as far as pro athletes go either. a linemen serves the purpose of blocking anybody from getting past them. if boulders could move freely, coaches would draft boulders. but they can’t, so for now big guys will do.
they just get in the way of people and their weight is hard to move, even if a lot of it is fat.
lesner didn’t seem fat at all, and as already mentioned outweighs many football players as it is.
that doesn’t mean the fat linemen aren’t huge, as far as impressive size goes, lesner has it and fat linemen, however strong, do not. eating excessive amounts of cheeseburgers isn’t impressive. [/quote]
What planet have you been living on?
take a look at what most defensive lineman are looking like now, they are closer to linebackers and many running 40yd in 4.7 sec some even in the 4.5s.
things have been getting leaner faster, quicker, than what your thinking of. especially defensive ends.
So Lesnar is huge or is he not???
[quote]AC1 wrote:
Lesner’s debut was impressive.It was certainly against an overmatched opponent, but I am interested to see how he does in MMA. Probably will not make it to the top, but he has the physical tools - BIG, fast, agile, and aggresive. Guess it will come down to his training and time will tell. Regardless, he’s good for the sport and interesting.[/quote]
I agree that he has the tools. If he gets the training and takes it seriously this guy could be scary as hell.
He’s already an accomplished wrestler and fast as shit (not qualifications many of the heavy-weights share). If he trains with someone that can teach him some striking he’d be set.
However, it has always been one of dana White’s goals to distinguish the UFC from wrestling. That makes me wonder if Lesnar would ever get a shot at the big time. What would it say about the UFC if a 'rastler came in there and laid waste to his heavyweights?
[quote]texasguy wrote:
analog_kid wrote:
texasguy wrote:
analog_kid wrote:
texasguy wrote:
i’m wondering what the IQ level of some of you posters is.
Judging from your grammar and punctuation, yours lingers somewhere around the mid-40s.
actually it is 132. when i want to write and proof read a thesis on a chat forum that believes fake wrestling is a real sport, i’ll let you know.
Can you get a note from your mom? I don’t believe you.
typical. “i don’t believe you” is pretty played out.
i’m flattered by your jealousy though.
either way, fake wrestling isn’t real, and 150 lbs for ten reps is weak.
i can tell from your pictures why that would offend you though. [/quote]
You sure don’t miss much do you?
The real question here is why does he have a giant penis tatooed on his chest.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
The real question here is why does he have a giant penis tatooed on his chest.[/quote]
Yes, and also why Johnny Morton was high on cocaine during his fight.
[quote]BabyBuster wrote:
AC1 wrote:
Lesner’s debut was impressive.It was certainly against an overmatched opponent, but I am interested to see how he does in MMA. Probably will not make it to the top, but he has the physical tools - BIG, fast, agile, and aggresive. Guess it will come down to his training and time will tell. Regardless, he’s good for the sport and interesting.
I agree that he has the tools. If he gets the training and takes it seriously this guy could be scary as hell.
He’s already an accomplished wrestler and fast as shit (not qualifications many of the heavy-weights share). If he trains with someone that can teach him some striking he’d be set.
However, it has always been one of dana White’s goals to distinguish the UFC from wrestling. That makes me wonder if Lesnar would ever get a shot at the big time. What would it say about the UFC if a 'rastler came in there and laid waste to his heavyweights?[/quote]
Are you talking about pro-wrestling or amateur wrestling he’s trying to distinguish from? Either way, Lesnar has a huge name, if he’s a good fighter, I see no reason not to give him a title shot and promote the heck out of him.
[quote]BabyBuster wrote:
However, it has always been one of dana White’s goals to distinguish the UFC from wrestling. That makes me wonder if Lesnar would ever get a shot at the big time. What would it say about the UFC if a 'rastler came in there and laid waste to his heavyweights?[/quote]
It would never happen, if Lesner was getting the better of Couture, the ring girls would distract Big John while Dana jumps into the cage with a fold up chair and clock Lesner from behind.
Sorry couldn’t resist. 
In all seriousness, you have a point, and it’s not like Dana is hard up for heavyweights these days. Still if Zuffa did pick him up, they could play up his NCAA achievements and not mention the pro wrestling career.