[quote]light_night wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
what more should i buy except leg extension curl ?[/quote]
All of that other stuff that gyms have.[/quote]
even arnold schwarzenegger didnt use more equipment than what i have + lying cur and seated extension ,
so why i need all the others equipment ?[/quote]
Ok.
Write back when you look like Arnold.
Every free weight is better than machines.
Glad to know.
It doesn’t explain all of those huge fuckers on machines though.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
what more should i buy except leg extension curl ?[/quote]
All of that other stuff that gyms have.[/quote]
even arnold schwarzenegger didnt use more equipment than what i have + lying cur and seated extension ,
so why i need all the others equipment ?[/quote]
Ok.
Write back when you look like Arnold.
[/quote]
what !!! lol
so if i am not arnoled so why do i need to do more exersices than what he did ?
[quote]light_night wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
what more should i buy except leg extension curl ?[/quote]
All of that other stuff that gyms have.[/quote]
even arnold schwarzenegger didnt use more equipment than what i have + lying cur and seated extension ,
so why i need all the others equipment ?[/quote]
Ok.
Write back when you look like Arnold.
[/quote]
what !!! lol
so if i am not arnoled so why do i need to do more exersices than what he did ?[/quote]
You don’t. You just told us that.
You don’t need anything more than what you listed…because like you said, Arnold only used those exercises so anything else must be worthless.
Have a great one and good times in the gym.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
what more should i buy except leg extension curl ?[/quote]
All of that other stuff that gyms have.[/quote]
even arnold schwarzenegger didnt use more equipment than what i have + lying cur and seated extension ,
so why i need all the others equipment ?[/quote]
Ok.
Write back when you look like Arnold.
[/quote]
what !!! lol
so if i am not arnoled so why do i need to do more exersices than what he did ?[/quote]
You don’t. You just told us that.
You don’t need anything more than what you listed…because like you said, Arnold only used those exercises so anything else must be worthless.
Have a great one and good times in the gym.[/quote]
so why did u tell me that i have to join to gym because i have no enough equipment
[quote]light_night wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
what more should i buy except leg extension curl ?[/quote]
All of that other stuff that gyms have.[/quote]
even arnold schwarzenegger didnt use more equipment than what i have + lying cur and seated extension ,
so why i need all the others equipment ?[/quote]
Lol op sure sure. So platz the guy with some of the biggest wheels did leg ext and hacks quite a bit. Arnold didn’t have much for legs…hmmm
Like I said your mind is made up. Ppl, are saying yes leg ext are good and help. Other machines also helps. But you just argue with retarded points. You seem to like asking for advice and opinions and then just argue. http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/no_weight_gain_?id=5763341&pageNo=0
[quote]Zoro wrote:
Do you need leg extensions to build large quads? No. Can you use them to build large quads? Yes. Thread over.[/quote]
This. I don’t know how this thread has gone 2 pages lol
I think leg extensions are definitely a useful exercise and one that I use on almost every leg session. If you’re looking for an exercise where you can achieve great MMC in your quads and where you can isolate them, they’re great. Squats are a great total lower body builder, but IMO, if done exclusively, for most, they will not result in fantastic quad development.
Those who can achieve great quad development from only squats are likely genetically gifted in that area. Otherwise, if hypertrophy is your goal, you’d be selling yourself short if you think that leg extensions are useless and as a result don’t do them.
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I think leg extensions are definitely a useful exercise and one that I use on almost every leg session. If you’re looking for an exercise where you can achieve great MMC in your quads and where you can isolate them, they’re great. Squats are a great total lower body builder, but IMO, if done exclusively, for most, they will not result in fantastic quad development. Those who can achieve great quad development from only squats are likely genetically gifted in that area. Otherwise, if hypertrophy is your goal, you’d be selling yourself short if you think that leg extensions are useless and as a result don’t do them. [/quote]
Snap … Agreed, genetics is the great equalizer
I can’t squat for dick, but he only genetic advantage I’ve got - outside of my devilish good looks - is decent quad development … A few sets of squats at #135 x20 and some light leg extensions and my legs are chafing… As with most exercises, some will reap serious reward whereas others would best expend energy elsewhere
No bad exercise … Just a poor recipient
I’d wager almost everyone has a body part that responds well to almost ANY stimulus, and some that don’t know matter how hard you prod
Nature of the beast
I don’t know how you all entertained OP. Obvious troll. If not… no comment. I don’t know how this thread became two pages. I hope OP doesn’t post anymore threads of similar fashion because my brain now hurts. Thanks.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
i can squat,front squat.lunge ,box squat,SLD,deadlift,goodmorning,etc
it isnt enough for get some exersices instead of leg extesnion curl ?[/quote]
I am not sure what you are asking here.
Something is better than nothing.
That doesn’t mean you walk around pretending you have all basis covered just because you don’t have all equipment.
In my honest opinion, a person looking for big well balanced muscles needs to be in a real gym unless they can actually afford all of the equipment for their home (which is rare).[/quote]
You should tell every oly lifter in the world that is leaner than you and has more mass than you that they’re doing it wrong. Fuck klokov he might have one of the most aesthetic physiques ever but he would look way better if he’d have hammer strength machines instead of training hard with squats and front squts.
lol tom platz was a powerlifter who become to bodybuilding he was doing alot of squats and alot of hack squat and u can read his program of " 20 rep squats" the only equipment that arnoled has got that i dont have is leg extesnion curl , i dont argue just trying to understand as u can see al the powerlifting has awsome legs some of them has better legs than bodybuilding so i trying to understand how !!
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I think leg extensions are definitely a useful exercise and one that I use on almost every leg session. If you’re looking for an exercise where you can achieve great MMC in your quads and where you can isolate them, they’re great. Squats are a great total lower body builder, but IMO, if done exclusively, for most, they will not result in fantastic quad development. Those who can achieve great quad development from only squats are likely genetically gifted in that area. Otherwise, if hypertrophy is your goal, you’d be selling yourself short if you think that leg extensions are useless and as a result don’t do them. [/quote]
ok i got it that the leg extension importnat ty,
i would like to know if the leg extension attachment to bench are good enough for getting the effect of this exersice?
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
i can squat,front squat.lunge ,box squat,SLD,deadlift,goodmorning,etc
it isnt enough for get some exersices instead of leg extesnion curl ?[/quote]
I am not sure what you are asking here.
Something is better than nothing.
That doesn’t mean you walk around pretending you have all basis covered just because you don’t have all equipment.
In my honest opinion, a person looking for big well balanced muscles needs to be in a real gym unless they can actually afford all of the equipment for their home (which is rare).[/quote]
You should tell every oly lifter in the world that is leaner than you and has more mass than you that they’re doing it wrong. Fuck klokov he might have one of the most aesthetic physiques ever but he would look way better if he’d have hammer strength machines instead of training hard with squats and front squts. [/quote]
Using a genetic anomaly to prove look oly lifts build an amazing physique is a broken argument. I would put my money on its very very rare to find a normal side that only ever does oly lifts and had a stellar phys. IMO
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
i can squat,front squat.lunge ,box squat,SLD,deadlift,goodmorning,etc
it isnt enough for get some exersices instead of leg extesnion curl ?[/quote]
I am not sure what you are asking here.
Something is better than nothing.
That doesn’t mean you walk around pretending you have all basis covered just because you don’t have all equipment.
In my honest opinion, a person looking for big well balanced muscles needs to be in a real gym unless they can actually afford all of the equipment for their home (which is rare).[/quote]
You should tell every oly lifter in the world that is leaner than you and has more mass than you that they’re doing it wrong. Fuck klokov he might have one of the most aesthetic physiques ever but he would look way better if he’d have hammer strength machines instead of training hard with squats and front squts. [/quote]
Using a genetic anomaly to prove look oly lifts build an amazing physique is a broken argument. I would put my money on its very very rare to find a normal side that only ever does oly lifts and had a stellar phys. IMO [/quote]
yes it is rare but my purpose is that if u only do squat deadlift all the free weight exersices with enough volum u can get very huge legs witout leg extension and curl leg press etc…
and olly lifter are proof for that ,
if oly lifter would make his exersices with the volum BB do so he could get even better legs than bb ,
and dont forget that oly lifter doesnt take steroid for makin them huge just taking steroid for getting stronger it is differen and still they got awsome legs !!
I seriously can’t believe this thread is still going -lol.
SOME PEOPLE can develop well rounded quads with nothing more than just some basics, while others, due to structural differences (or any number of variables) may fare better with many different tools in their approach (trying to hit very ‘angle’, pre-exhaust etc).
Personally, I had to make use of extensions, hacks, all sorts of exercises because when I focused solely on squats and presses a good amount of the stress seemed to hit my glutes and hams. Luckily I realized that this didn’t result in the goals that I had, so I had to expand my approach. On the other hand, if you look at a guy like Dennis Hopson (who I spent a good amount of time with during my 2011 pre-contest season), his legs are far from lagging and his feelings are that all you need are squats and presses to build great quads. Obviously if you were to go based solely on HIS results you couldn’t argue because he dwarfs anyone offering opinions in this thread. Of course we all know that you can’t give an approach credit based solely on ‘it worked for so and so’, especially when you can find just as much, if not more support for a different school of thought.
The bottom line is that you’re going to have to find out yourself if you can make the progress you want with the equipment you have at hand. What worked for anyone else and their goals isn’t going to guarantee anything.
S
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
i can squat,front squat.lunge ,box squat,SLD,deadlift,goodmorning,etc
it isnt enough for get some exersices instead of leg extesnion curl ?[/quote]
I am not sure what you are asking here.
Something is better than nothing.
That doesn’t mean you walk around pretending you have all basis covered just because you don’t have all equipment.
In my honest opinion, a person looking for big well balanced muscles needs to be in a real gym unless they can actually afford all of the equipment for their home (which is rare).[/quote]
You should tell every oly lifter in the world that is leaner than you and has more mass than you that they’re doing it wrong. Fuck klokov he might have one of the most aesthetic physiques ever but he would look way better if he’d have hammer strength machines instead of training hard with squats and front squts. [/quote]
I am honestly not sure what your post had to do with what I wrote at all.
No there aren’t that many oly lifters with well balanced development from head to toe like a bodybuilder for your comment to make sense.
My personal development had nothing to do with this.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
i can squat,front squat.lunge ,box squat,SLD,deadlift,goodmorning,etc
it isnt enough for get some exersices instead of leg extesnion curl ?[/quote]
I am not sure what you are asking here.
Something is better than nothing.
That doesn’t mean you walk around pretending you have all basis covered just because you don’t have all equipment.
In my honest opinion, a person looking for big well balanced muscles needs to be in a real gym unless they can actually afford all of the equipment for their home (which is rare).[/quote]
You should tell every oly lifter in the world that is leaner than you and has more mass than you that they’re doing it wrong. Fuck klokov he might have one of the most aesthetic physiques ever but he would look way better if he’d have hammer strength machines instead of training hard with squats and front squts. [/quote]
I am honestly not sure what your post had to do with what I wrote at all.
No there aren’t that many oly lifters with well balanced development from head to toe like a bodybuilder for your comment to make sense.
My personal development had nothing to do with this.[/quote]
we are talking about legs !!!
rare olly lifter who has thiny legs
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
Probably with a home gym, you won’t be able to load heavy enough to do much damage to your knee’s, it’s the 400lb stacks that worry me. Anyway I think with the leg ext. a little less ROM makes it less harmful on the joint, the bottom half of the movement is where the knee really gets opened up. Letting your feet move down under your seat so you can get a swing and momentum with heavy weight, seems dangerous to me.
Super-setting light leg ext. with say squats to pump the quads, or some high rep work at the end of your workout is how I would use them. Maybe something like Wendler’s 100 rep set, at the end of your workout. I don’t use leg ext. because I’m training for PLing, but this is how I use them for my clients.
It’s not that I’m some expert on the subject. I just happened to have a training background when I injured my knee, than work-men’s comp. put me into engineering school, so I spent a lot of time studying the knee joint, and dissecting the exercises (from an engineering stand point) I actually convinced my Physical Therapist at the time to let me do leg press instead of leg ext. to strengthen my knee (quad) Hope this helps, sorry if I got carried away, lol [/quote]
Sounds like this is one of those machine exercises that would do well with rigging up chains or bands to and make the strength curve better for the goal. Have you or do you know anyone that’s done this?
[quote]light_night wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]light_night wrote:
i can squat,front squat.lunge ,box squat,SLD,deadlift,goodmorning,etc
it isnt enough for get some exersices instead of leg extesnion curl ?[/quote]
I am not sure what you are asking here.
Something is better than nothing.
That doesn’t mean you walk around pretending you have all basis covered just because you don’t have all equipment.
In my honest opinion, a person looking for big well balanced muscles needs to be in a real gym unless they can actually afford all of the equipment for their home (which is rare).[/quote]
You should tell every oly lifter in the world that is leaner than you and has more mass than you that they’re doing it wrong. Fuck klokov he might have one of the most aesthetic physiques ever but he would look way better if he’d have hammer strength machines instead of training hard with squats and front squts. [/quote]
I am honestly not sure what your post had to do with what I wrote at all.
No there aren’t that many oly lifters with well balanced development from head to toe like a bodybuilder for your comment to make sense.
My personal development had nothing to do with this.[/quote]
we are talking about legs !!!
rare olly lifter who has thiny legs
[/quote]
Well gee, it’s rare for an oly lifter to have quads like Ronnie Coleman so what is your point?