[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]sambaso777 wrote:
I also want to point out that Jordan EARNED the hype he was given. He came into the league being questioned by Rod Thorne [the then Bulls gm] about his offensive prowess. he went on to average 28 a game as a fucking rookie. Eveything Jordan ever got, he worked for. James has been handed everything his entire life. Cavs management bent over backwards to bring him what he asked for. When he couldn’t get it done, he quit. It’s that simple.
He left to what he deemed greener pastures and bragged about winning SEVERAL titles without even having so much as had a fucking team practice. He has no concept of hard work, and expects everything to be handed to him. When it’s not, he starts pouting and pointing fingers. We’re 20 games into this season and he’s already done it a couple of times. It will get worse. Biggest jerkoff athlete there is.[/quote]
What exactly is your proof that Lebron doesn’t know the concept of hard work and he has had everything handed to him? Wilt Chamberlain was far more dominant in his time than Lebron has ever been or will ever be and he only won 2 titles in 14 years. MJ won 6 while being surrounded with talent that Lebron never came close to having. If you want to equate Mo Williams and the ghost of antawn jamison with Dennis Rodman and Scottie Pippen then its clear your dislike for Lebron lacks any sense of logic.
Nobody could have won titles with Lebrons supporting cast. Give me one solitary example of a player who won a title with the piss poor level of talent James had. There’s a difference between quitting and simply realizing that playing with an undersized ragtag group of castoffs will never yield a title. I agree that he is arrogant and ‘‘the decision’’ was pathetic, but leaving was the right thing to do.
I would have preferred Chicago, I’m still not convinced playing with Wade and an overrated softie pretending to be a 4 is better than playing with Rose and Noah on an actual team that has depth and chemistry. After a certain point trying the same thing over and over again becomes pointless and thats what Lebron realized. He waited 7 years, what was he supposed to do? Wait till his career is more than half over and he is no longer able to physically dominate to move? [/quote]
First off, no one is talking about Wilt Chamberlain so I don’t know what you’re trying to do there. Second, the Cavs had THE BEST RECORD in the league two years in a row. They clearly had the talent to get it done. Calling them “piss poor” shows you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your examples are absurd and make no sense.
My proof that he doesn’t know what hard work is is by reading what others in the game say about him and by WATCHING him play and listening to what he says. He left Cleveland 'cause he couldn’t get it done and jumped to Miami claimimg they’d win up to 7 titles. Keep in mind he only signed a 6 year deal. That sounds like a guy who assumes that by just rolling the ball out with his new surrounding cast they’ll win, without really having to work for it.[/quote]
Look at his team now. Compare that to how the Lakers play without Kobe. Who gives a fuck about regular season records beyond playoff seeds? Look at the Sacramento Kings of a few years ago or the Phoenix suns or Mavericks just recently. They would pile on the regular season wins but never won a title. Have you stopped to think that maybe Cleveland won in spite of Lebron’s teammates and not because of them? He made them better, period. How can Lebron win one single title as long as he is playing with Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison and Delonte West when he has to go up against Garnett, Rondo, Allen and Pierce, and if he got past them would get to face Kobe backed by the best offensive big man in the league in Gasol, Lamar Odom, and Ron Artest. Please, tell me you believe he could have won against those teams. Of course no one will mention Chamberlain, it would kill the whole argument about quitting because it shows what happens when a dominant star lacks an adequate supporting cast. Is it any coincidence he didn’t win till he left? Kobe didn’t win without Shaq or Gasol. Wade had a still dominant Shaq and MJ had Rodman and Pippen. If Lebron’s team was so good why where they so terrible without him?
