[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
In public places I use toilet paper to put the seat down. At home it’s left down. Not because I withhold sex but because that’s how he was raised, I guess. I appreciate it and I appreciate him for being that way. He does a lot of things because he wants it to be nice for me and nice between us.
Hopefully he would say the same of me. I figure that’s why we’ve been married for so long and still like each other. “I’ll do what I want and he can go fuck himself if he doesn’t like it” isn’t really conducive to long term happiness. [/quote]
Just out of curiousity, why is it either:
A) More work for a woman to put the seat down than for a man to lift it up
B) Somehow unfeminine to be involved in that, or
C) Somehow more of an intelligence problem for a woman to fall into the toilet due to not being able to check or at least consistently check if the seat is down or not (btw, even a man who is a low-grade moron has enough intelligence to not fall into the toilet, so it isn’t clear to me why women cite their doing so as an issue, unless it’s a spatial intelligence thing or something.)
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Exactly why is there an issue at all, do you think?
And for example why is it that you don’t see it as a return consideration on your part to lift the seat, or to say there is just no reason for him to put it down if it was up? I have never heard of a woman thinking that would be something she could do to be considerate.
Is it difficult labor to put the seat down when you need that?
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A) It’s not.
B) Do you mean that it’s unfeminine for women to touch/lift the toilet seat? I don’t think it really is, but on the other hand I’ve seen men’s rooms and I’ve seen women’s rooms and frankly I’m more comfortable touching things in the former than the latter, generally speaking.
C) It’s not. The problem comes when one is accustomed to having the seat down and encounters a rare incidence of it being up while groggy and visually impaired. Personally, I’m equally startled by a lowered lid in the dark because that’s not the norm in my house.
Once I tripped over a suitcase my husband left in our bathroom when I got up in the night. Assessing probability is a function of intelligence. One doesn’t guard against improbable circumstances unless the consequences of failure warrant it. If the probability of an upraised seat were higher, I would undoubtedly learn to check.
It does seem that women have somehow won the war on this one. I can only imagine that as home was a woman’s domain traditionally, their preference in the matter won out as the “polite” or “civilized” way to operate.
Again, I married someone who seemed to default to the seat down. I’m happy about it, though. It looks better to me. I do things that are aesthetically pleasing to him, too. Some cost me effort, others don’t.
