Layne Pulls 645 Raw Double Overhand Grip (WR)

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]elano wrote:
What’s the reasoning behind the singlet anyways? Do you have to have the straps on or can you just let them hang?[/quote]

Seriously??

In powerlifting, you have to wear a singlet so that all competitors are in somewhat uniform attire and it makes judging a hell of a lot easier.

Its pretty easy to tell where your hip is relation to your knee, and whether your butt remained on the bench in a tight singlet. You can’t accurately judge depth and lockout when someone is wearing baggy basketball shorts and an oversized t-shirt.

And, yes you have to have the straps up. That goes for squat suits too. Why the fuck would you be required to wear a singlet with straps, but not have to wear the straps up? If you could do that, the rules might as well say you can wear compression shorts instead.

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
malonetd wrote:
elano wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
suit and belt is raw? k

i didnt know pulling DOH was that much harder either. its the only way ive ever done deadlifts

What for real? Switch to the alternate and watch your max go up 30 pounds.

30 pounds? My mixed grip max is like 120 pounds more than my double overhand.

do you use straps at all? im guessing not often since you do strongman but what kind of difference is there between mixed and using straps?

Actually, I use straps anytime I do deadlift heavy for reps. I don’t like doing reps with a mixed grip. I work my grip enough separately so I don’t think it’s hurting me to use straps.

As far as comparing straps vs. mixed grip, my 1RM is the same, but if I were doing reps, I could probably pull a couple more with the straps.

If all you’ve ever done is double overhand, I guess your grip might have kept up with your pulling. Have you ever tried double overhand? If you miss a pull is it because your grip fails or your back fails?[/quote]

well ive heard form a lot of guys in the BBing side that pulling mixed is more dangerous and can lead to bicep tears more so than DOH. i actually have only used straps twice, once on shrugs and once on Stiff Legs. i felt like they really helped me out on the stiff legs so im guessing i could pull better with em too

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[quote]Bloobird wrote:

Koklyaev pulling 891 lbs double overhand…[/quote]

Yeah, deadlifting big weights with hook grip is really impressive:

645 at 220 without mixed grip is cool too.

It’s just that the day before yesterday, I saw 661 at 205 with mixed grip and shitty barbell. After shit like Konstantinovs’ 55 pullups, while being one of the strongest deadlifters in the world, you start to expect only mind-blowing videos here :slight_smile:

Layne is strong though.

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[quote]Hanley wrote:
Nikiforos wrote:
Some guys are really good at double overhand deadlifts.

Some guys are really good with straps…[/quote]

Woops, posted the wrong video of the same guy. Here he is doing it without straps, double overhand. I think it’s a double overhand hook grip here.

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[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
elano wrote:
What’s the reasoning behind the singlet anyways? Do you have to have the straps on or can you just let them hang?

Seriously??

In powerlifting, you have to wear a singlet so that all competitors are in somewhat uniform attire and it makes judging a hell of a lot easier.

Its pretty easy to tell where your hip is relation to your knee, and whether your butt remained on the bench in a tight singlet. You can’t accurately judge depth and lockout when someone is wearing baggy basketball shorts and an oversized t-shirt.

And, yes you have to have the straps up. That goes for squat suits too. Why the fuck would you be required to wear a singlet with straps, but not have to wear the straps up? If you could do that, the rules might as well say you can wear compression shorts instead.

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I dunno, just remember this mark rippetoe pic… Also the lifter in the video posted below…

[quote]Nikiforos wrote:

Woops, posted the wrong video of the same guy. Here he is doing it without straps, double overhand. I think it’s a double overhand hook grip here.

[/quote]

BAD ASS!!!

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[quote]elano wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
elano wrote:
What’s the reasoning behind the singlet anyways? Do you have to have the straps on or can you just let them hang?

Seriously??

In powerlifting, you have to wear a singlet so that all competitors are in somewhat uniform attire and it makes judging a hell of a lot easier.

Its pretty easy to tell where your hip is relation to your knee, and whether your butt remained on the bench in a tight singlet. You can’t accurately judge depth and lockout when someone is wearing baggy basketball shorts and an oversized t-shirt.

And, yes you have to have the straps up. That goes for squat suits too. Why the fuck would you be required to wear a singlet with straps, but not have to wear the straps up? If you could do that, the rules might as well say you can wear compression shorts instead.

I dunno, just remember this mark rippetoe pic… Also the lifter in the video posted below…

Nikiforos wrote:

Woops, posted the wrong video of the same guy. Here he is doing it without straps, double overhand. I think it’s a double overhand hook grip here.

BAD ASS!!!

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That picture looks like it was taken in 1982. (Edit–Actually I just looked it up. Rippetoe was a competitive powerlifter in 1982. He retired in 1988.) I’d be willing to bet that the rules and gear technology have changed a little since that pic was taken.

And if you’re saying the guy in the youtube video isn’t wearing his straps up, you need to get your eyes checked. He’s wearing a single ply Metal suit.

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[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
elano wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
elano wrote:
What’s the reasoning behind the singlet anyways? Do you have to have the straps on or can you just let them hang?

Seriously??

In powerlifting, you have to wear a singlet so that all competitors are in somewhat uniform attire and it makes judging a hell of a lot easier.

Its pretty easy to tell where your hip is relation to your knee, and whether your butt remained on the bench in a tight singlet. You can’t accurately judge depth and lockout when someone is wearing baggy basketball shorts and an oversized t-shirt.

And, yes you have to have the straps up. That goes for squat suits too. Why the fuck would you be required to wear a singlet with straps, but not have to wear the straps up? If you could do that, the rules might as well say you can wear compression shorts instead.

I dunno, just remember this mark rippetoe pic… Also the lifter in the video posted below…

Nikiforos wrote:

Woops, posted the wrong video of the same guy. Here he is doing it without straps, double overhand. I think it’s a double overhand hook grip here.

BAD ASS!!!

That picture looks like it was taken in 1982. (Edit–Actually I just looked it up. Rippetoe was a competitive powerlifter in 1982. He retired in 1988.) I’d be willing to bet that the rules and gear technology have changed a little since that pic was taken.

And if you’re saying the guy in the youtube video isn’t wearing his straps up, you need to get your eyes checked. He’s wearing a single ply Metal suit. [/quote]

Yeah, he’s geared, wearing a belt too. But I wasn’t trying to compare him to the original video at any rate, it’s just interesting to me that some lifters prefer the double overhand grip, even for powerlifting comps.

Martin Wildauer (the guy from the vid) only pulls double overhand these days, and he’s obviously a very good deadlifter.

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I’ve been pulling mixed grip lately…I never really focused on deads until now…but I find that double overhand feels more natural to me, and I get in a better position

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[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
elano wrote:
buckeye girl wrote:
elano wrote:
What’s the reasoning behind the singlet anyways? Do you have to have the straps on or can you just let them hang?

Seriously??

In powerlifting, you have to wear a singlet so that all competitors are in somewhat uniform attire and it makes judging a hell of a lot easier.

Its pretty easy to tell where your hip is relation to your knee, and whether your butt remained on the bench in a tight singlet. You can’t accurately judge depth and lockout when someone is wearing baggy basketball shorts and an oversized t-shirt.

And, yes you have to have the straps up. That goes for squat suits too. Why the fuck would you be required to wear a singlet with straps, but not have to wear the straps up? If you could do that, the rules might as well say you can wear compression shorts instead.

I dunno, just remember this mark rippetoe pic… Also the lifter in the video posted below…

Nikiforos wrote:

Woops, posted the wrong video of the same guy. Here he is doing it without straps, double overhand. I think it’s a double overhand hook grip here.

BAD ASS!!!

That picture looks like it was taken in 1982. (Edit–Actually I just looked it up. Rippetoe was a competitive powerlifter in 1982. He retired in 1988.) I’d be willing to bet that the rules and gear technology have changed a little since that pic was taken.

And if you’re saying the guy in the youtube video isn’t wearing his straps up, you need to get your eyes checked. He’s wearing a single ply Metal suit.

Yeah, he’s geared, wearing a belt too. But I wasn’t trying to compare him to the original video at any rate, it’s just interesting to me that some lifters prefer the double overhand grip, even for powerlifting comps.

Martin Wildauer (the guy from the vid) only pulls double overhand these days, and he’s obviously a very good deadlifter.
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Yes…we know.

Martin posts here, or he used to anyway. Point is its NOT called double overhand its called hook grip, you show me someone pulling 800 plus double overhand without straps and I’ll gladly leave you be. If your saying that Martin has abandoned hook and gone to double overhand for his heavy deadlifts then I’d be very surprised…