Im a fan of Layne, smart guy.
[quote]Lunarisx718 wrote:
Layne hasn’t competed since 2006 and doesn’t plan on competing until 2010. His legs have grown[/quote]
How old is the dvd “Layne Norton Unleashed”? I can’t believe I bought it if he NOW is way bigger. I would have waited for his next dvd release instead.
Does anyone in this thread actually compete in anything?
[quote]Lunarisx718 wrote:
trav123456 wrote:
I think if Layne bulked for a few years instead of competing so frequently he’d be alot bigger. There’s no way to tell what effect genetics have on a persons developement so no use discussing it. He has stated that he had a hard time getting his legs to grow in proportion to everything else though.
Layne hasn’t competed since 2006 and doesn’t plan on competing until 2010. His legs have grown[/quote]
yeah I know, my point was that if hadn’t competed at all he would carry more overall mass. But this offseason has treated him pretty well I’d say, it said in his log that he’s 235 at 10% bf. That means he’ll most likely be competing at over 200lbs which is pretty big for a natty.
His legs look pretty big in this pic 
[quote]Invictica wrote:
Does anyone in this thread actually compete in anything?[/quote]
No, I do not compete in anything and it shows in my pathetic physique because I (wanna be a bodybuilder without lifting heavy-ass weights). Peanuts are heavy to me - “Nothing but a peanut - light weight Baby.”.
Damn it.
Layne is pretty big for a natural competitor. He doesn’t have the tiny joints, or naturally small waist that guys like Cordova have (and as such appear waaaaaaaaay larger than their contest 160 lbs!), and that might be the deception that makes people think he’s not impressive as a competitor. The fact that he’s about 5’10 (I believe) and competes at over 200lbs (and comes in absolutely shredded), is an impressive feat indeed. If someone cannot see that, then they truly do not understand the game of bodybuilding as much as they may like to think they do.
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[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
ajweins wrote:
I am pretty sure X would take it as an insult if he heard that someone was saying he got to his size because he has way above average genetics. He obviously doesn’t have bad genetics, but to claim that layne could be huge if he had X’s genetics (because I guess he just works so damn hard stomping around the gym) is rediculous.
How many people in your gym are bigger than Professor X? Also in my post I did mention that X’s incredible work ethic and the fact he did not take time off for OVER 10+ YEARS. You really think that factor did not contribute to his development?
When did I claim that if Layne had someone else’s genetics the results will be different. I wrote that given his dedication, work ethic, and level of strength - his results/size is not that great.
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I live in rural Iowa. I am the biggest guy in my gym sadly. So no, I have never seen a guy X’s size in person. However, I have also not seen a guy train and eat with the tenacity that the Professor claims to for over a dozen years. I think this plays a larger role. I also think Trav brought up a very good point.
But this thread isn’t about genetics. Its about Layne, who is a very impressive weight lifter and bodybuilder, and from what I hear, an incredibly nice guy. I did not mean to take anything away from his accomplishments which are not doubt very impressive.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Layne is pretty big for a natural competitor. He doesn’t have the tiny joints, or naturally small waist that guys like Cordova have (and as such appear waaaaaaaaay larger than their contest 160 lbs!), and that might be the deception that makes people think he’s not impressive as a competitor. The fact that he’s about 5’10 (I believe) and competes at over 200lbs (and comes in absolutely shredded), is an impressive feat indeed. If someone cannot see that, then they truly do not understand the game of bodybuilding as much as they may like to think they do.
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I agree with stu here. Layne has done a shit ton for natural bodybuilding. He also is a phd candidate advancing the science of protien metabolism. In my opinion he is a very strong dude.
he has been an inspiration to me because he is a natty and knows his nutrition. Also I have a naturally wide waist and thick joints so I like to see that it is still worth it to bust my ass in the gym. By the way, I have never heard X say he is a natty, are we comparing apples and oranges? At 5’8’’ I weigh about 200lbs and I constantly get comments about being huge from the general public. Obviously I am not nearly satisfied yet, but my point is that BIG and STRONG are relative terms. The magazines are full of juiced up pros, nd I think it is easy to loose perspective.
[quote]MiJuggernaut wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
Layne is pretty big for a natural competitor. He doesn’t have the tiny joints, or naturally small waist that guys like Cordova have (and as such appear waaaaaaaaay larger than their contest 160 lbs!), and that might be the deception that makes people think he’s not impressive as a competitor. The fact that he’s about 5’10 (I believe) and competes at over 200lbs (and comes in absolutely shredded), is an impressive feat indeed. If someone cannot see that, then they truly do not understand the game of bodybuilding as much as they may like to think they do.
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I agree with stu here. Layne has done a shit ton for natural bodybuilding. He also is a phd candidate advancing the science of protien metabolism. In my opinion he is a very strong dude.
he has been an inspiration to me because he is a natty and knows his nutrition. Also I have a naturally wide waist and thick joints so I like to see that it is still worth it to bust my ass in the gym. By the way, I have never heard X say he is a natty, are we comparing apples and oranges? At 5’8’’ I weigh about 200lbs and I constantly get comments about being huge from the general public. Obviously I am not nearly satisfied yet, but my point is that BIG and STRONG are relative terms. The magazines are full of juiced up pros, nd I think it is easy to loose perspective.[/quote]
QFT both of youz
While I can honestly say that I will not be half the man and bodybuilder that Layne is, I still think for someone with Layne’s level of strength, dedication, work ethics… I thought he would look better/bigger by bodybuilding standards. Also this quote seems to indicate indirectly the status of Prof X in regards to being natty?
JonEightPackGuy wrote:
Yeah but don’t you think it would be possible to perhaps eventually get up to 260 naturally? I mean maybe I shouldn’t try packing on 60lbs in under a year but I’d like to eventually little by little, get up there somewhere. I don’t want to be the above average guy, I want to be a big ass guy.
I did it. Whether you can has yet to be seen…and yes, adding 60lbs in one year is bit much. It may take you 3 years or more to add that size the RIGHT way.
I wasn’t lean when I first hit 260lbs though.
X never ceases to amaze me. Is it me or do most natties have a hard time reaching that size? Anyone else who has gotten that big naturally feel free to chime in. Also to clarify Layne suggests everyone starts with 4 weeks of bulking and two weeks of cutting and then adjust it on an individual basis. He argues that switching directly from 500 cal over maintenance to 500 calories under maintenance will take advantage of the hormonal environment. Similar to how guys gain muscle more easily after dieting down for a show or lose fat easier right after a long bulk.
i think guys getting big after dieting has more to do with a caloric defecit not being good for the body off the bat and basically youre hungry all the time so you just go insane with food after a diet. i know i did, and i know Kai Greene did @ iHOP lol