[quote]trav123456 wrote:
guy answers tons of questions on bbing.com and MD. I think he’s hitting up another PL meet soon here, should be good to watch he had lots left in the tank at his last meet.
and what’s the point of leaving negative comments on youtube? Would you say that to his face? I mean maybe you would but that’s a pretty harsh thing to say, the guy works pretty hard at what he does regardless of the weight he’s using.[/quote]
i think my reasoning makes it justified.
i didnt leave a negative comment on a 600 pull or a 500 squat, it was a 495x5 trapbar. i can hit a 495x5+ on a trapbar and i wouldnt make a video of it and post it on youtube. its pretty much a jackass move to start just by doing that.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
IronAbrams wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
he got mad on Youtube when i said his 5 plate trap bar x5 wasn’t as spectacular as all his dickriders made it sound.
he said he had a 600-something raw deadlift, i said no doubt, thats a good lift but a 495x5 trap isnt that special dude. he was thoroughly upset. i dont think he should post vids on the internet if he cant handle any criticism.
it’s also funny because he didn’t respond to anyone else’s comments (that i saw) on there yet as soon as someone says something critical he logs on to comment back. definately a sensitive dude.
wouldn’t be suprised if he showed up on the forum to comment on this too
I agree, but why leave a comment on someone’s page just to say that it’s ‘nothing to write home about’? Negative youtube comments are the lowest of the low on the internet (just above youtube comment arguments).
i wrote it because i’ve done a 5x5 trapbar deadlift. and i didnt make a youtube video about it.
wanna know why i didnt? because i wasnt doing a form check and i wasnt trying to show off. if you post a video on youtube of you doing a lift, its either to show off or look for form critique and he obviously wasnt doing it to look for form criticism. this guy needed to get knocked off his high horse, thinking he’s a god because he has these little YouTube newbs who think that shit is impressive to start with and he’s getting all gassed up. and yes he is obviously wicked gassed up or else he wouldnt have gotten all pouty when i said what i said.
he has some good lifts, ill give him that. but showcase only the stuff thats worth being put on the net. dont post a vid of a fucking 495x5 trapbar. [/quote]
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Thats what average to slightly above average natural genetics with great work ethic looks like. Professor X and such are way above average along with great work ethic. I think I read many times about natural bodybuilders saying that their contests are mainly about dieting down and not about any appreciable amount of muscle that one would expect an IFBB pro to have.
Layne is way stronger and bigger and has better work ethic than me by far, so it is not a knock on him, just that natural bodybuilding in general will never have that massive freakish look.
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How do you know prof X’s genetics are way above average?
Layne norton has cut down lots of times for shows, and does a 3 week mass gain followed by a 3 week cut for his general diet. Prof has been mass gaining since day 1 non-stop, which is probably why he has a lot more mass (and probably strength) than layne.
Hmmm 3 weeks bulk, one week cuts? That’s very interesting…I bet that keeps your body guessing and helps your metabolism. I wonder how many steps back it turns out to be when it comes to progress? I might try that someday.
How do you know prof X’s genetics are way above average?
Layne norton has cut down lots of times for shows, and does a 3 week mass gain followed by a 3 week cut for his general diet. Prof has been mass gaining since day 1 non-stop, which is probably why he has a lot more mass (and probably strength) than layne.[/quote]
First I am not an expert so I am probably speaking out of my ass but, I have seen prof X’s pics and he is way way way above average with an incredible work ethic that helped him progress to his level (after 10+ years of never taking time off). I have Layne’s dvd and he also has an incredible work ethic but does NOT have the genetics for size that his dedication and strength levels should equate to.
if your not an expert shut up about things experts talk about. no one really knows what genetics contribute too and what work ethic contributes too. so stop talkin out your ass
[quote]Kanada wrote:
if your not an expert shut up about things experts talk about. no one really knows what genetics contribute too and what work ethic contributes too. so stop talkin out your ass[/quote]
Please post some pics either in this tread, profile or as an avatar to prove you are more of an expert than I am on any bodybuilding topic to tell me not to talk about it.
Some people do take it too serious. Why not take that energy into the gym? That would probably more efficient… but then again assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.
I am pretty sure X would take it as an insult if he heard that someone was saying he got to his size because he has way above average genetics. He obviously doesn’t have bad genetics, but to claim that layne could be huge if he had X’s genetics (because I guess he just works so damn hard stomping around the gym) is rediculous.
Did I say I was an expert? No. My previous post said that I was NOT an expert. I thought X himself admits that he has above average genetics for bodybuilding, why would that be an insult? Would saying that Kevin Levrone has above average bodybuilding genetics be considered insulting to him as well?
If that is the case, I am sorry because people should not be accused of having above average genetics especially when they are bigger than 99% of other people in the gyms that I go to. My fault for thinking in the box and not outside of it.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
if you use a Tanita scale for bodyfat% you arent an expert[/quote]
You are right about the part of me NOT being an expert. I never claimed as much. I use the Tanita scale to track my progress and not as an accurate body fat reading instrument. After all, by brother’s recent Tanita reading was 18%, yet he is ripper than most people who post here claiming 10% body fat.
[quote]ajweins wrote:
I am pretty sure X would take it as an insult if he heard that someone was saying he got to his size because he has way above average genetics. He obviously doesn’t have bad genetics, but to claim that layne could be huge if he had X’s genetics (because I guess he just works so damn hard stomping around the gym) is rediculous.[/quote]
How many people in your gym are bigger than Professor X? Also in my post I did mention that X’s incredible work ethic and the fact he did not take time off for OVER 10+ YEARS. You really think that factor did not contribute to his development?
When did I claim that if Layne had someone else’s genetics the results will be different. I wrote that given his dedication, work ethic, and level of strength - his results/size is not that great.
I think if Layne bulked for a few years instead of competing so frequently he’d be alot bigger. There’s no way to tell what effect genetics have on a persons developement so no use discussing it. He has stated that he had a hard time getting his legs to grow in proportion to everything else though.
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
I think if Layne bulked for a few years instead of competing so frequently he’d be alot bigger. There’s no way to tell what effect genetics have on a persons developement so no use discussing it. He has stated that he had a hard time getting his legs to grow in proportion to everything else though.[/quote]
i think legs are the hardest thing to get “big” without juice. which explains why this happened to him and explains his size in general. idk why people are so suprised by the size (or lack) of natty competitors.
This pic is of someone that trains in the gym I go to who also is 165lbs during contests. Is there a difference? I don’t know - Kanada won’t post his pics for comparison.
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
I think if Layne bulked for a few years instead of competing so frequently he’d be alot bigger. There’s no way to tell what effect genetics have on a persons developement so no use discussing it. He has stated that he had a hard time getting his legs to grow in proportion to everything else though.[/quote]
Layne hasn’t competed since 2006 and doesn’t plan on competing until 2010. His legs have grown
When I talk about genetics, I am only talking in general terms as “There’s no way to tell what effect genetics have on a persons developement”. If you look around at your gym, how many people are close to 300 lbs that are NOT OBESE? Now does your gym have more than 100 members? 1000 members? 10,000 members? Out of that total how many are truly huge without being a total fat ass and then you can maybe generalize and say a few people like X are more than 3 standard deviation above the mean. (Note: I myself was almost 250 lbs and looked NOTHING like Professor X or waylanderxx or HolyMac - the few people with above average development who actually posts pics. I looked like Artem only 19 years older - if he made no progress.)
