Layman' Training Log/Diary - Bodybuilding - (Red Pill/Blue Pill)

Hi everyone

I hope you are all well, I don’t usually post at this time but I awoke realising some of you might be worried which was not my intention.
I had planned to post yesterday but sometimes silence is better for spirituality.
Anyway I was saving my endoscopy until I got another one to compare with but who knows how long that will be. I want to get a better endoscopy than last time but I don’t want to undergo another endoscopy, it was a really scary and difficult experience. I was reflexively resisting when they were trying to put the camera in me. The doctor was really good though, she wouldn’t take no for an answer, she shoved that camera in me like it was best for me and i would thank her for it, which I did lol
I was really grateful to have the diagnosis, before that I didn’t know what I was dealing with

So I have started my E1D protocol today, I injected myself with 0.08ml testosterone enanthate which works out to 23mg according to the lab certificate.
This is the 3rd day after my last injection from my E5D protocol. I decided to start today instead of day 5 because I don’t want my estrogen to go too low.
I am confident I will feel more healthy on this protocol

10 weeks ago from today I added the primo to my HRT protocol.
I have pip from my last primo injection, the first from the new vial.
my left delt, its swollen, hard around the injection site, slightly red skin even on bicep and hot to touch compared with the rest of my body.
The needle was the first slin for me that felt blunt going in.
I was thinking it might be a good idea to cut the site with a scalpel like how they do hijama but I don’t want to be rash so I will wait a few days before making a decision. Hopefully it gets better.
Anyway back to the primo. I’m feeling the primo working stronger than ever, which leads me to believe it’s the same compound as the one in the previous vial. I believe the primo is restoring my genetics

Hi everyone, good news. my left delt/arm is feeling much better today, so cutting it with a scalpel yesterday would have been premature and unnecessary.
My 3rd testosterone injection on my E1D protocol is due, and my 2nd dose from the new vial of primo aswell, keeping it at 0.40ml E5D for now, I’m planning to inject it in my left ventroglute and the testosterone in my left glute today.
Right now injection timing is after my evening devotions

So I feel you guys want me to post a picture right now.
My current profile picture was taken just now. I’m completely de-loaded right now, I know I would have looked several times better if I had a workout or pump up before the picture but I’d rather give my joints time to heal until I get in the gym. My form with free weights is way better than bodyweight.
The last time I had a workout was on the 15th of june, when I took the profile picture before last but it wasn’t even a proper workout, more like a cautious pump up.
I’m actually feeling really good, my joints feel good, I feel like I could do 45 push ups right now and then another set untill I get 300 but I don’t want to get injured again.
So this is the lats, I have another one with the abs. My posing needs work lol, I was struggling to take the picture and pose at the same time without the mirror in front of me.
I seem to look way better in the mirror, than in my pictures, there’s way more definition in the mirror.
Also my shoulders look wider in the mirror as opposed to pictures, maybe the mirror is making me look wider lol.
Im going to tweak my diet, one less chicken breast in the big pan, and less rice, more fruit.
My injections yesterday and today went well

I realise some of you want more information.
I’ve never tried to loose weight or loose fat in my life, not once.
I’ve never done an actual cut, I’ve been trying to bulk up the whole time since the beginning of high school lol, apart from when I went all in to spirituality when I didn’t eat much food or the times I tweaked my diet here and there for a few days to improve ab visibility.
I don’t have any pictures of when I was 75kg in the gym(I was avoiding taking pictures myself at the time, the picture when I was measured at 75kg was taken on 12/11/19),but that was my peak, 75kg when I looked my best and biggest, my physique was really good at the time, the best it’s been in my life, a personal trainer who is a competitive bodybuilder approached me at the time in the gym and asked if I’d done steroid cycles before lol, I told him I hadn’t, I didn’t mention TRT, I didn’t want to talk about it, then he told me he wanted to train me, that he liked training guys like me and he refuses to take on clients all the time because he said he prefers to invest his time on clients like me lol, I think he doesn’t take on clients who want to loose weight or goals other than bodybuilding, I told him I couldn’t afford his services at the time…

De-loaded abs, no workout, no pump lol.
Some of you might be interested to know i have slight pip in my left ventroglute from the 200mg per ml primo. It’s not bad, I’m just saying because I think some of you want to know.
I’m hoping I don’t get pip from my next primo injection lol

You don’t blast anadrol medicinally. Oxymetholone has indications for use as adjunct therapy to treat certain types of anaemias (aplastic anaemia, fanconi anaemia etc) and wasting disorders (AIDS in particular). It’s quite a harsh drug, if you’ve got GI issues you’ll probably want to avoid this one as it’s known to induce bloating/gastrointestinal irritation for some. Generally speaking unless you are in a debilitated state, the use of anadrol is recreational.

Why are you using masteron/nandrolone. I get you wanted a bit of an extra kick out of HRT, hence opting for primo. These are serious drugs, why do you need nandrolone? Check lipids periodically, chances are they’ll be a bit out of whack on mast/primo/deca. Mast is good for libido, but for gaining actual contractile tissue it’s not great and it’s harsh on cholesterol

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Hi @unreal24278

Thank you so much, I cherish your advice, throughout history the best human kings kept people around to caution and advise them and even to disagree with them.
I haven’t researched Anadrol yet, I was planning to research it when the timing is right, but I was suspecting it to be as you said, it looks like injectables are the better option for my condition.
If I did ever get negative gut related symptoms from orals, I would to come off and adjust the plans accordingly.

I was planning to add the deca to my HRT protocol following Dr Edward Lichten’ methods to treat my ulcerative colitis.
But since I’ve started using the Rick Simpson oil I’ve been feeling really well and haven’t felt the need for the deca.
I will tell you if I received the deca 5 days sooner i would have administered it straight away seeking relief from my symptoms. looking back I think I was experiencing temporary inflammation caused by the jerk chicken I cooked which came out way too spicy/chilli for me.
I wanted the masteron to expand my experience/use medicinally to treat my condition, I want to see the difference from the primo. I still haven’t made a final decision on how to utilise it in my treatment. I was thinking to switch from primo to masteron and back every 6 months or after I come off blast, but I’m not sure if I will do that yet.
Did you read my plans for my 2nd medicinal blast yet? I would be interested to hear your thoughts

What are you intending to run for your second cycle? From a neurological standpoint, Nandrolone isn’t the friendliest of drugs. It’s notorious for inducing issues with libido, erectile function and mood.

I looked over at the dosages you’re using. .4ml primo 2x/wk is 160mg primo with TRT dose test, just enough to give you a slight anabolic push.

Has this helped your condition? What made you think of using primo? Do you have difficulty meeting caloric requirements due to GI issues, therefore you saw the nutrient partitioning/anti-catabolic effects of AAS as being potentially therapeutic?

I’m not recommending AAS (I never do), but if you’re losing weight uncontrollably, this should allow you to maintain bodyweight.

Anabolic steroids aren’t approved to treat ulcerative colitis, and generally speaking aside from one case report I’ve seen they aren’t used off label to treat it either. I’m not sure why you believe anabolic steroids are the answer here. Masteron is very weak in terms of it’s ability to add muscular bulk. It doesn’t have as much affinity for 3-HSD enzyme like regular DHT, but it’s not a strong anabolic either. I believe mg/mg it’s slightly over 1/2 the anabolic potency of test on paper (a/a ratios are a super flawed concept given how they’re determined), in real life it’s probably even less than that.

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Hi @unreal24278

For my second medicinal blast, I was thinking my dialled in HRT protocol with 200mg deca and 100mg Masteron per week for 12 weeks, no orals.
I’m injecting the primo E5D, it works out to 112mg if the mg/ml is accurate.
Yes, as you say, before I started TRT I was 66kg and I had many negative symptoms that was effecting my quality of life, I was struggling with daily activities and my weight and health wasn’t improving from the the gym using formulas I know works, I lost alot of weight from my neck and had neck issues. there was times when I was weak as a kitten lol.
I believe that people with intestinal damage slip (loose) calories and nutrients, causing them to become nutrient deficient, which I believe causes testosterone production to become restricted, I think the subconscious mind that regulates heart beats, blood flow, organ function etc makes a call on how to utilise the available nutrients at its disposal. I think maybe If there’s testosterone deficiency I think it causes the intestines to work harder which could be causing more damage.
I remember many times pre TRT feeling fatigue after meals, making me want to lie down, it was like I didn’t have the energy to digest the meals.
Since TRT I have been feeling better in every aspect.
Since the gyms closed I was loosing weight slowly, and then I started loosing weight on my neck and it was feeling sore, so I added the primo to my HRT protocol and felt better straight away, I stopped loosing weight and my neck started feeling better and getting bigger again. My weight has seemed to stay the same since. If anything, looking within, my body has been feeling raring to gain muscle, like I have the potential to gain alot of muscle.
I think I was DHT deficient to be honest, also looking back I believe my TRT protocol was not optimised which is why I was experiencing those symptoms before I added the primo especially since what I’ve been experiencing over the last 2 days(I’ll get to that) . If I wasn’t using primo I would probably look smaller and softer since the gyms are still closed lol, now I realise optimising my testosterone protocol should fix those symptoms like when I first started TRT, which Is why I decided to start testosterone administration everyday.
Dr Edward Lichten prescribes TRT / AAS to people with ulcerative colitis, I’m sure there are other doctors who prescribe TRT and AAS for ulcerative colitis.
In my opinion I think it’s way better than taking immunosuppressants, corticosteroids and anti depressants which is what it seems the majority of doctors prescribe for ulcerative colitis

Hi everyone

I’m feeling a bit unwell, my neck is feeling sore since yesterday and I’ve had a headache since yesterday, I took 10mg of cialis yesterday and felt a bit better and the same in the morning.
I think im estrogen deficient from my switch to E1D testosterone administration.
4 days ago I missed my regular dose of 69mg testosterone on my E5D protocol and had 23mg instead, I also had 23mg a day from 2 days before my regular injection day 4 days ago and I’ve had 23mg a day since. I’m due 23mg tonight.
Tomorrow is the next dose of 69mg test I will miss and have 23mg instead.
I think it’s estrogen deficiency. Im hoping I feel better soon on my new daily protocol

@unreal24278 is giving you a lot of good advice, but I’ll add a bit from a very practical standpoint. Masteron is used in the prep weeks leading up to shows because it enhances vascularity and being a DHT-derivative does not aromatize to estrogen. That’s it. That’s all it’s good for, unless you want to try it for its reputation as a libido-booster.

Primo has a reputation for being the injectable with the best anabolic performance and least sides. Again, this is down to its status as a DHT-derivative, but because of this is also a relatively week anabolic agent (when compared to something like boldenone or deca/npp). I don’t think there’s any benefit to alternating between Primo and Mast. If you want to add lean tissue, just run a proper blast of Test with Primo added, but unless you’re adding 500+ mg of Primo per week I wouldn’t even bother. It’s still a weak anabolic.

Deca is a premium mass-builder, but like @unreal24278 pointed out its a 19-Nor with a ton of potential sides. At your size, I really don’t see a reason to add something like deca. You would want to add 40 pounds of lean mass with Test cycles before needing to consider deca. More test will do just as well with less sides.

If you wanted to add an oral, I would recommend oxandrolone (anavar) at 25-75mg daily for 6 weeks. It is, mg-for-mg, one of the most potently anabolic steroids in existence among all compounds, injectable and oral. It is very well tolerated and is approved for use in men, women, and children burn victims (and for a few other indications). It also promotes an increased rate of collagen healing and targets lower abdominal fat by selectively binding to adipose androgen receptors in that region. It is not liver-toxic, but you would want to keep an eye on kidney health and lipids - it will absolutely trash your HDL.

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Primo at 500mg would be good for a blast (i.e gaining as much muscle mass as humanely possible in X amount of time). I don’t think OP is looking to blast from a bodybuilding perspective. He’s looking to maintain bodyweight/potentially gain a little bit of mass while feeling good. To counteract catabolic states, you really don’t need that much (these are powerful drugs).

Should also be noted oxandrolone is well tolerated at up to 40mg/day, 40-80mg/day is also well tolerated but is associated with fairly significant hepatotoxicity. Oxandrolone is primarily metabolised via the kidneys, however some degree of hepatic metabolism (like all steroids) is still present. Oxandrolone is more hepatotoxic compared to virtually all non c17-AA injectables.

Generally oxandrolone probably isn’t clinically associated with hepatocellular carcinoma/hepatocellular adenoma or peliosis hepatis due to the dosages employed. If the 80mg/day dosages were commonplace (as we see with anadrol) with long term oxandrolone therapy we would probably see the same hepatic pathology that we see with the long term use of fluoxymesterone, dehydromethyltestosterone, chlorodehydromethyltestosterone, methyltestosterone and stanozolol.

I saw one study with 20mg/day wherein a subset of the subjects developed LFT’s over 3x baseline (indicative of significant hepatotoxicity)

Not sure if primo is weaker than boldenone per se. In terms of lean tissue accrual I think they’d be pretty close with boldenone gaining a slight edge. NPP on the other hand would blow primo out of the water on a mg/mg basis.

I’ve heard of people using high dose masteron (600mg+) and gaining a good, solid few lbs. It can be used to gain muscle mass, but from a mg/mg basis/cost-effective standpoint it’s an incredibly poor choice AND it’s harsh on the lipids (test isn’t).

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I would like to see this if you can dig it up. That’s pretty significant. Still, the liver is regenerative, and for the short durations of anavar runs (generally six weeks) there shouldn’t be any serious long-term implications. I have been more concerned about renal stress. Any thoughts there?

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Hi @unreal24278, @spinup

Thanks for all the generous information, I will definitely consider what you guys said when the time comes to blast

For today I decided to open up another vial of primo, this one is 100mg/ml like the first vial. I didn’t want to get pip again as my Left ventroglute is still sore. i might try to use the 200mg/ml primo in 5 days with a 1 inch needle and a shower afterwards.
I still feel as though my estrogen is too low, I’ve had a headache again today, I’m trying to relax and not put any strain on my mind

Hi everyone

I no longer have a headache and I’m showing no signs of low estrogen anymore.
On Saturday and Sunday i felt like I was loosing weight, now I feel like I’m gaining muscle again.
I had a few vaping sessions of the RSO along with my regular oral administration to bring my estrogen back up faster because I felt as though my estrogen was dangerously low.
I vaped some Rick Simpson oil earlier and had an incredible pump, I felt like I was growing on the upper back and lats.
I’ve also had KFC twice to bring my estrogen up lol.
I no longer have any pip anywhere, I love the 100mg/ml primo, it’s so smooth.
Though since the pip on my left ventroglute disappeared, ive been feeling sore on my front side, lower stomach, right next to my left hip bone, it feels like sciatica, I think maybe my intestine is pushing against some nerves or something

I forgot to mention I also tried to ramp up my estrogen by trying to watch some romantic movies. I watched In Time, it wasn’t that romantic but I appreciated the analogies, I also watched Suite Francaise, that I enjoyed

So far I have finished 1ml of the Rick Simpson oil and I have 1ml left. I feel as though it’s really helping me. one guy on the Internet said 1ml a day is the ideal dose but that would be unaffordable for me right now. Hopefully I can get more before I run out.

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So since yesterday the sciatica has been disappearing and reappearing, sometimes it’s on my back and sometimes my front, right now my back.
I have co-codamol on hand which I have from the last time I had sciatica, I think it was December 2019, I think that was the 2nd worse pain I’ve had in my life.
I wanted to take some co-codamol at work but i didn’t have it on me, when I got back it wasn’t that bad, now its feeling worse. I just got an idea, I’m going to try rolling around on the floor and stretching and rubbing my back