Lava2007 Training Log

May have to change the name of the log to “achieving alpha” instead of trying. Such a big boy balla move. Carry on with your bad ass self!

I’ve looked back over my logs since we switched to the Hypertrophy work and now back to 531. I was repping weights more back then, but I wasn’t hitting as high as on the bar numbers for reps. I lost endurance strength but gained in the doubles and singles. Bench seems to diminish quick, while dead lift seems to grow more if you stay away from it. (Just spitballing)

This suggest that bench volume/ frenquency needs to be more than legs/ deads.

From my early studies (Stoppani) suggest bench grows more from lower rep sets with higher intensity hitting frequency through out the week. Legs like higher rep sets, rest pauses, drop sets, etc.

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Once I deadlift 500 I’ll change the name of my log, that’s an awesome idea!

Yeah that makes sense. I’ve also heard that bench is most sensitive to bodyweight and deadlift is the least sensitive to bodyweight. Weighing a lot helps more with benching than it does with deadlifting which is a pretty interesting phenomenon IMO. Also, I think you’re right about the higher sets and lower reps at a higher intensity for growing bench. When I hit my 6x6 bench at 255, I felt very strong. Doing AMRAPs for bench never really did much to improve my max any more than a linear progression probably could have. Regardless, I gotta cycle some hypertrophy in for a while unfortunately

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30 April 2018 - Squats – bodyweight 216lbs
Sumo Deadlift 3x2 365 beltless double overhand
Low Bar 225x5, 275x5, 315x5 (banded knees)… 5x10 230lbs (62.5% TM)
Leg Press 2x20 4 plates
Pullups 1xAMRAP
Face Pulls 2xAMRAP 25lbs
Glute Bridges 1xAMRAP 115lbs
Conventional Deadlifts 315x5 EMOM, 365 2x1, 405 2x1

Conditioning
~20 shot put throws (14lbs & 16lbs)

Notes
I never thought 230lbs could be so tough. I squatted in chucks today which I normally don’t, so it hit some muscles I haven’t hit in a while. My adductors are very sore already, I can feel my hamstrings, and my quads are murdered. The leg press was not my first option, but I front squatted 135 one time and realized there was no way in hell I was gonna get 3x15 with any respectable amount of weight today.

Today was my deadlift deload. Decided to go all Big Hog on it (that’s you @losthog) and do double overhand. 365 is definitely my limit for double overhand lol. I tried out a slightly different conventional technique today and wanted to test it at a relatively high intensity, so I went up to 405. Slightly wider stance and grip with significantly higher hips, and it felt much better than the way I normally do it. Success.

Tomorrow will be a quick bench day and I’ll get up to 245x3, then 165 for 5x10. Some triceps, DB incline bench, and face pulls + some row variation. I’m kinda liking this hypertrophy thing so far. The high volume is a good change of pace and it’s fun for now, but I can only hope that it lasts for the next 2 months. Good night boys, let’s grind tomorrow

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That’s interesting, when I’m AMRAPing my ERM gets up, but that’s in the 5 - 12 or 15 rep range. When going to lower reps it seems that I haven’t improved anything.
I’ll try to reap all out of 5/3/1 meaning going for as many cycles it takes to make my 1’s week AMRAP 1. Damn that’s about 6 cycles before I get to 2 plates and probably 1 rep.
How about this Lava I like your idea of 6x2 on day 2 of that russian cycle, so I’ll keep that. Then alternating cycles like 1 cycle BBB sets after the mainwork 1 cycle adding a joker 1 rep with TM after the main work, Deload - repeat. That would be 3 rounds of BBB - joker at TM ?

Btw excited to see if your DL will suffer from all that growing stuff you’re onto.

Sorry man rambling and hijacking your log :slight_smile:

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Jokers can be used anytime to go balls out… I try an match my joker work to my working set rep ranges. It keeps me handling big weights and I think of it as prepping me for my next week or next cycle.

My volume is built with modest weights in modest rep ranges.

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That’s what I noticed too. When I started 5/3/1, I could bench 225 5 or 6 times on a good day. After going to failure (I believe my first 5+ was at 205 or 210) on every + set for the next 5-6 months, I AMRAP’d 225 again and got 15. So it definitely improves strength in the higher rep ranges, there’s no question about that. I think the tricky part is figuring out how to coax that high rep strength to come out and show itself in the lower rep ranges with higher weights.

I think you need to focus on lower rep ranges for a while if you want to see improvements. Build a solid base with the high rep stuff, and then give your body a chance to recognize that it’s being pushed to grow stronger for 3-5 reps instead of 10-12 reps.

Best example I can think of right now is this:
Week 1: 3x12 135lbs (this week should feel easy)
Week 2: 3x12 145lbs (this should be a challenge, but all reps completed)
Week 3: 3x10 155lbs (this should be pretty difficult)
Week 4: 3x10 165lbs (again… hard)
Week 5: 3x6 175lbs (not too bad because we dropped the reps)
Week 6: 3x6 185lbs (tough, but not impossible)
Week 7: 3x3 205lbs (9 for 9 with these solid working reps)
Week 8: 3x2 225lbs (6 total working reps, all completed)

Purely theoretical, but that’s what I mean by coaxing the high rep strength to show itself as low rep strength. Something like this may actually take 12-20 weeks, but you get the gist of it. Week 3 would probably be a good amount harder than week 5, but week 5 is a key point where you get to let your body know that, “hey, we’re only doing 6 reps now. The weight’s getting heavier. Adjust to that stimulus now.” I think I did a pretty bad job of this with my bench press, but then again, 5/3/1 doesn’t really give us much room to work like this. It’s a + set and then some assistance. It’s good for building a good base of strength for sure, and I think we’re all capable of a bigger base than we realize, so it’s probably a good idea for us 3 to continue cycling 5/3/1 in for a few months at a time at different points in the year.

On second thought, I just had an epiphany. The beauty of 5/3/1 is that it allows for complete, absolute, meta-self-regulation. Not just during each session, but over the course of months. You may get 15 reps on a 5+ in the beginning of a 5/3/1 block, and after a few months, only be getting 2-3 on a 1+. That in itself is teaching your body how to handle heavier weights for lower reps…

So you’re thinking of doing your first cycle with BBB, second cycle with 1 joker set with the TM? It’s interesting for sure. I think I’ve read that it’s more efficient over long periods of time to focus on hypertrophy vs. strength in different phases. I don’t know if you would be able to make/keep/utilize enough hypertrophy gains to have it carryover to strength phases and vice versa… that’s something I might do some research on later this week while I procrastinate.

Man, I’m so f*cking sore today it’s unreal. I’m deadlifting on Thursday and I’ll see if I’m able to fully recover or not before then… I wouldn’t be surprised if my deadlift strength suffered a little bit. My upper hams + glutes + quads are all weak, tight, and sore right now. Hopefully two more days of eating and two more nights of sleep can fix that for me. You’re allowed to ramble on my log whenever you want!! No need to apologize. I love love love talking about this stuff with you guys.

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I’ve been trying to incorporate a wave into 531 cycles and here is what I’ve come up with bases on 3 blocks. 2 blocks, deload, 1 block, test.

1st block:
5s Amrap, 1-2 joker, pyramid, fsl x5 DL, x8 press, x10 squats

3s Amrap, 1-2 jokers, pyramid, fsl x5 paused DL, x5 paused press, x8 paused squat.

1s Amrap, 1st jokerx3, joker singles or doubles as far as I can get, pyramidx5, fsl5x5

2nd block:
5s Amrap, no jokers,pyramids, 5x5s press, 5x3 DL, 5x8 squats

3s same

1s same

Deload: working singles to TM

3rd block:

5s: no amraps, jokers x5s, SSL x5s x5

3s: no amraps, 1st joker x5, then x3s, SSL x3x5

1s: no amraps, joker x 5, joker x3, singles until you can’t. SSL x2s.

Reset

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That looks interesting Hog.

I might even borrow some of it.

Remember at the end of the day. It’s your training and expanding or cutting back, is all up to you…

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Can you explain what you mean by pyramid? I understand the general premise of jokers; go up in weight for 5 or 3 or 1 reps, depending on what week you’re on. And FSL is first set last, correct? So if I go 135x5, 170x5, 205x5+, am I doing my amrap at 205 and then finishing with 135x5?

Pyramid is doing Second set before the first set last ( FSL ). After jokers…

Yep. And if you pyramid down you would do the second work set x week (or 5) the. The fsl. 5x5 or 3x5 or how ever much volume you are adding on

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2 May 2018 - Bench
Bench 185x3, 225x3, 245x3, 165lbs 5x10
Incline DB Bench 3x15 50lbs
Close Grip Bench 3x10 185lbs
Face Pulls 2x35 25lbs, 1x30 25lbs
Hammer Curls 3x10 35lbs

Conditioning
None today. I would’ve loved to go for a long walk with the dog or a hard bike ride, but it’s been thunderstorming for the last 4 hours.

Notes
My legs are still fairly sore today. Getting up and moving around at practice helped, and so did lifting with my upper body. Something to get the blood moving. My theory is that since I almost never squat in flat soles, going hard in my chucks on the first day was probably a stupid idea. I haven’t decided if I’m going to squat in Oly shoes or flats on Saturday. We’ll see.

Bench today was noticeably easier than it was last session. I paused my 3s for fun, did not pause my 5x10. I didn’t struggle at all to get any of my reps (except close grip), which is a fantastic sign. I went up by 5 or 10lbs for the DB incline and it felt easier than it did last time. I’ll credit neurological adaptions I suppose. Close grip was a lot of fun, and I got a pump from it which was pretty cool. That rarely happens for me with barbell lifts. I’ll try adding 10lbs every cycle to keep up with my regular bench, where I’ll also be adding 10lbs every cycle (that’s not some arbitrary number, that’s actually what the %s work out to.)

Got a nice painful trap and rear delt pump from the excessive face pulls lol. Hammer curls were just for fun while I waited for my friend to finish his workout.

I was so sore yesterday and today that it actually affected my mental well-being. I developed a sore throat at some point yesterday, and it got to the point where I would just start sweating profusely because I was so sore and uncomfortable sitting in my desk. I woke up with a sore throat today again, and it was pretty bad. I got 9.5 hours of sleep and it didn’t help at all. I felt like absolute shit when I woke up and the whole time I was awake this morning. I’ve never been depressed, but I think I was this morning. It was a combination of being pissed off that I’m so sore and sad that I failed so badly with my recovery. I went through the motions this morning in class, drove home, had a BIG lunch, and then hit the sack for 1.5 hours. I woke up feeling very tired, but I feel back to normal right now. Still pounding the protein and water, of course. I’ve experienced this phenomenon of compromised mental wellness after training too hard before, and so I wasn’t too surprised that it happened. My lats are sore, my neck is sore, my traps are sore, and my hamstrings + adductors are sore. I didn’t do any upper body work so I don’t know why my entire body is sore, but hopefully it’s because everything is growing.

I will continue eating big tonight and I’ll get to bed by midnight which will give me 8-10 hours of sleep. I’m carrying on with my 2x2 deadlifts at 455lbs tomorrow which is a pretty big deal for me. Tomorrow will make or break my entire cycle, essentially. If I feel like I can do 455x4, then I have a shot at getting 500lbs next week. If 2x2 is damn near impossible, I’ll have to settle for 475-485. Aaaand my computer is about to die. I’ll check back in an hour when I get home.

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I have nothing to offer. It looks rock solid and having an out in learning is a good thing. Wanting to hit big numbers is great, but being realistic is so much better for the long run in this passion. Big weights can “weight” until the body is ready to get it!

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Exactly man. Hypertrophy might as well be renamed “waiting,” because that’s what it feels like. Even during my sixth cycle when I’m at 205lbs for 5x10 bench, or 275-285lbs for squats, it will feel like boring (albeit hard) work. It’s part of the waiting game, just gotta punch the clock for a few months until I’ve added enough mass to make some new strength gains.

Just using my 5/3/1 app, I just took a sneak peek at what numbers I’ll be doing on the last cycle. My last 5/3/1 set of bench will be 280x1, squat will be 390x1, and deadlift will be 450x1. Not bad… at the very least, I should be as strong as I am now if not a tiny bit stronger. I’m glad I’m getting this hypertrophy shit out of the way during the summer. I really enjoy lifting weights at my college. There’s a lot of recreational lifters there (technically I’m a recreational lifter too I guess), and even first semester this year when my squat + deadlift were in the mid 300s and bench was ~275, I was one of the stronger people there. There was a guy squatting 365 for sets of 3 or 5 and people were going up to him asking him all sorts of questions about what he eats and what supplements he takes, lol. I’m looking forward to being that guy. End rant

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I’ll throw in my 2 cents here.
You’ve caught a mild infection in the body (sore throat) In the same time you’ve switched to high volume stuff. That is taxing the body in another way than the high intense stuff does.
This leads to a bit of soreness from lifting, and the mild infection doubles or triples the sensation. This is also why you sleep so much, the body is trying to heal the illness and recover from the squat at the same time. Now you’ve thrown in some more taxing shit.
This could lead to even more infection and bad feelings OR the body came over the infection in a hurry and you are good to go.
IF you feel like shit today, when you should DL 2x2. You should consider taking a day off, to let the body heal.
Think about it, you’ve lifted like crazy to chase that illusive number, you’re so close, you washed the bench down the drain by going to high. You still have the DL to chase.
Either way you’ve done some good shit and the big number will eventually come.

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I love this analysis because it’s spot on, and it hadn’t occurred to me until you put it down like this. I woke up feeling tired today, but after about 15 minutes I felt fantastic and I still do. I usually need a nap to be able to function after my classes, but I feel no need or desire to do so right now. I’m about to head to the gym for my 2x2 because I feel suspiciously amazing right now… Maybe my mom stabbed me with a needle full of steroids in the middle of the night or something. That’s kind of what it feels like right now.

Soreness is 95% gone. I’m at the point where some mobility and light stretching before I lift will put me at 100%.

Definitely the latter thank GOD.

Amen brother. I’ll check back in a few hours with an update on my workout today. Thank you for your wise words, I always appreciate them!!

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So we can adjust the 5,3,1 weeks so they overlap so that we don’t max lift every lift in the same week…check out @Alpha addition : the darkhorse

I’m thinking this is my next cycle. I can load up on the vertical diet and burn fat while training my ass off…

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Interesting. I wonder how beneficial it would be in practice to not do a 1+ for every lift in the same week. If you’re doing it, I’ll see how it works for you. That might be the move I have to make after this hypertrophy bs.

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3 May 2018 - Deadlift Bodyweight 215lbs
Deadlift 2x2 455lbs
Hanging Leg Raises 2x10 bodyweight
30 crunches
GHR 2x12 bodyweight, 1x8 25lb plate
Bicep Curls 3x10 35lbs
Single Leg Hamstring Curls 3x12 45lbs
Barbell Hip Thrusts 2x10, 3 second pause each rep, 115lbs

Conditioning
None. Shit weather again today. I’ll go for a long walk or bike ride tomorrow and throw afterwards, depending how my back feels.

Notes
To put this in perspective, 455 was my max about 2-2.5 months ago. I got into position today, pulled, and the weight didn’t budge. I took about 3 minutes and then tried again and got 2 smooth, albeit slow, reps. Rested 10 minutes and did my next set. It took absolutely everything out of me, so I treated the rest of my workout like an active rest day. Posterior chain and core for the most part.

I’m in a bad spot right now in terms of training frequency. I have a track meet every Friday and a 8-12 hour shift every Saturday, and school is closed on Sunday. So I’m lucky to get a measly workout in on Saturday before work. It sucks, because to stay on track, I then have to lift Monday through Thursday, which is nearly impossible for me. It’s going to be the same thing over the summer, except with work Friday through Sunday instead of a track meet. I’m kinda freaking out about it because training is the only thing that keeps me sane. I can only handle my friends and family for so long before I need a break. Also, I don’t really have a choice with work. I need to work so I can pay for college. So I can’t quit my job and focus on lifting weights. If my progress suffers, I will suffer, simple as that.

Anyways, hard fucking workout tonight. I’m drained right now. Legs weren’t completely recovered and my back was a little tight before I started, but if I didn’t deadlift today, I wouldn’t be able to do it until Monday (4 days from now). I got my reps so whatever. Rest day tomorrow for a track meet, a shitty workout on Saturday morning, work Saturday night, and studies on Sunday. Gonna have plenty of time to get some active rest in I guess… fuck. My schedule just sucks right now. Maybe I should just train twice a week and do every lift on both days? Monday and Thursday? Could work. Maybe I’ll try that next week. Peace out boys

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