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For me, nothing beats anger + caffeine for maximum intensity

There seems to be value in doing isolation exercises before the big compounds rather than doing them at the end as a “finisher”. It gets the blood in there and seems to get them primed for work. Pre-exhausting is not something new but new to me.

Typically, I would do a non-specific warmup (not much really) then get into a big lift, ramping weight to a top set. Works well. I’m always trying for more weight or more reps.

I was poking around the FST-7 site. So, next time training I supersetted leg extensions (haven’t done those in a long time) and leg curl at the start of leg day. Huge pump and huge soreness next day (three days actually).

Is it a better way…don’t know yet. We’ll see.

[quote]D Public wrote:
give me 4 months or so…[/quote]

lol You have your work cut out for you. I can tell you right now Tats is doing very well for himself and has been on here less time than you.

For me at least…

Going for a 10RM versus going for a 5RM is VERY different in terms of how my muscles are firing.

Repping out with a lighter weight != hitting a single the calculator says I can.

Focussing on the stretch (at least for hammies) = soreness! Never got that with leg curls.

[quote]Htowner wrote:
and that though tons of supplements arent a necessity, the more I make use of them the easier everything about bodybuilding gets.[/quote]

I’ve noticed that too, not just quality of supps (as I experiment with new and exciting things every now and then, sometimes fruitlessly) but the mentality behind it.

When I have a bunch of moderate/expensive supps on my shelf, I will actually work harder, study more, stick to a better diet as not to ‘waste’ the supplements.

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
give me 4 months or so…[/quote]

lol You have your work cut out for you. I can tell you right now Tats is doing very well for himself and has been on here less time than you.

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this is my log

Husk Fiber really is that fucking awesome.

[quote]D Public wrote:

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
give me 4 months or so…[/quote]

lol You have your work cut out for you. I can tell you right now Tats is doing very well for himself and has been on here less time than you.

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this is my log[/quote]

this is a fucking joke.

Eat enough fiber.

For God’s sake, eat enough fucking fiber.

Since we’re on the subject of fibre, can I talk about how amazing enzymes are?

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
give me 4 months or so…[/quote]

lol You have your work cut out for you. I can tell you right now Tats is doing very well for himself and has been on here less time than you.

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I’ll say… bring it on. :stuck_out_tongue:

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the reason i said 4 months is because my progress is not what it appears…i will also say the 4 months is somehwat unrealistic but I tend to set goals like that…

I can also explain my lack of results…Ive taken extended periods off…

the only time ive trained continously hard over a yr is my first yr at 16…I went from squatting 225 to 405x3 in less than a year(i trained using Westside barbell techniques)…Then in 07, i went on a diet where i lost 80lbs to get down to 180 but i lost a ton muscle and all strength…then in 08…i gained strength fairly easily for a couple months went from deadlifting 275 to 395x2 and squat 225 to 295x15 in a few months…but i contracted a serious infection that stopped me from training for several months and i lost desire to lift for the rest of the year…in 08, I started lifting again but severely damaged my back which limited me as I was training at home with only a barbell and rack…I still managed to get from benching 185 to 225x9 in a few months or so…I ended up going from 190 to 215 in 4 or so months…But I was too soft for my liking and dieted down over 4 months and lost my progress…i didnt feel like training anymore in 09 until january this year after i made the realization that effort is everything and I could take it all the way this year…this is the first year Im actually training in a real gym as well…

I’ve already gained 15lbs and went from deadlifting 315x1 to 385x5(easily) in a month…I’ll dead 500 in a couple months…I know what I’m capable of…everything is in place now as I’ve learned from past failures and honestly I believe I have what it takes to do well in bodybuidling…

most of you guys are only limited by your beliefs…and I will enjoy proving every single one of you wrong…

[quote]D Public wrote:
the reason i said 4 months is because my progress is not what it appears…i will also say the 4 months is somehwat unrealistic but I tend to set goals like that…

I can also explain my lack of results…Ive taken extended periods off…

the only time ive trained continously hard over a yr is my first yr at 16…I went from squatting 225 to 405x3 in less than a year(i trained using Westside barbell techniques)…Then in 07, i went on a diet where i lost 80lbs to get down to 180 but i lost a ton muscle and all strength…then in 08…i gained strength fairly easily for a couple months went from deadlifting 275 to 395x2 and squat 225 to 295x15 in a few months…but i contracted a serious infection that stopped me from training for several months and i lost desire to lift for the rest of the year…in 08, I started lifting again but severely damaged my back which limited me as I was training at home with only a barbell and rack…I still managed to get from benching 185 to 225x9 in a few months or so…I ended up going from 190 to 215 in 4 or so months…But I was too soft for my liking and dieted down over 4 months and lost my progress…i didnt feel like training anymore in 09 until january this year after i made the realization that effort is everything and I could take it all the way this year…this is the first year Im actually training in a real gym as well…

I’ve already gained 15lbs and went from deadlifting 315x1 to 385x5(easily) in a month…I’ll dead 500 in a couple months…I know what I’m capable of…everything is in place now as I’ve learned from past failures and honestly I believe I have what it takes to do well in bodybuidling…

most of you guys are only limited by your beliefs…and I will enjoy proving every single one of you wrong…

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Well, that’s us told…

I didn’t say anything about you not reaching your goals, and I’m not going to be negative, but I will say, you do seem quite naive.

maybe i do have a delusional sense of confidence but only time we’ll tell…

I didn’t even intend to hijack this thread…you guys attacked me because I said effort was the derterming factor in ones success…

there are people who will do only 3 chest exercises because some guy said so…when they could do 4 and get better results…there are people who will only train 3 days a week because some guy said so when they can train 6 days a week…

im not training 3 days a week and eating half a sandwich for meals…I’m training 6 days a week and eating 3lbs of meat everyday…

cmon man…I wouldn’t even involve myself in a sport if I didnt want to become great…Im here to be the fucking best and I intend on being that…

[quote]D Public wrote:
maybe i do have a delusional sense of confidence but only time we’ll tell…

I didn’t even intend to hijack this thread…you guys attacked me because I said effort was the derterming factor in ones success…

there are people who will do only 3 chest exercises because some guy said so…when they could do 4 and get better results…there are people who will only train 3 days a week because some guy said so when they can train 6 days a week…

im not training 3 days a week and eating half a sandwich for meals…I’m training 6 days a week and eating 3lbs of meat everyday…

cmon man…I wouldn’t even involve myself in a sport if I didnt want to become great…Im here to be the fucking best and I intend on being that…[/quote]

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that attitude. I think what Tatsu was trying to say, was that if you don’t use a bit of “wisdom” with your determination, you could just end up burned out and want to quite (or say, “stuff it, I’ve done everything possible, I’m doing my best and with little to show for it, I’m just gonna take steroids”). Your training has to have some elements to it other than just doing as much as possible; there has to be some form of periodization. Nothing complicated, just a period where you “pull back” so to speak. The “no pain no gain”, or “more is better” mind frame, doesn’t always work in bodybuilding.

Obviously, it’s better to be like that than it is to be carefree/lazy…

What its_just_me just reiterated is true. Bodybuilding has a large priority in my live, but there are also other priorities… for example a marriage, study, work, social life, children, etc. For some bodybuilding will generate money, but what are those chances?

Everybody has time, but how do you prioritize? You’ll have to find a balance when growing older and get more responsibilities. Even when training, you’ll have priorities… how does your body feel, will it be able to grind out more reps? You’ll have to ride the line between getting your body out of balance to stimulate growth and not injuring yourself.
If your body is exposed to too much stress, it will decompensate. This can be caused by mental state, lack of sleep, to little food intake and stress. Stress is also determined by your mental state.

If your mental state says keep going, and your body says otherwise… it will take its toll. A simple psychophysological response.

Being too carefree and too motivated are two extremes… there is also a gray area. Between those two extremes you’ll have to find your own balance.

I agree with you both…

I’m still figuring out what that “Balance” is but Im getting closer to it…I just feel that some people will never truly go beyond the norms because they have self limiting beliefs…They never find a true balance…They just find a level of effort that is acceptable…This year I promised I would find that true level of effort that pushes the boundaries…

Im not going to post anymore…I will report back when I have acomplished something worth noting…

That I’m a dumbass. Seriously though that I’ve been using dumbells for all my bench exercises for a year and got a decent increase in strength. And recently decided to try for a max on bench. Ya apparently increasing strength in one movement doesn’t always follow to another, go figure.

[quote]dalthorn wrote:
That I’m a dumbass. Seriously though that I’ve been using dumbells for all my bench exercises for a year and got a decent increase in strength. And recently decided to try for a max on bench. Ya apparently increasing strength in one movement doesn’t always follow to another, go figure.[/quote]

LOL

You likely used less than 80% of your benching weight with dumbbells, so exactly how did you expect to be stronger in the bench when you returned? :slight_smile:

That in almost every lift you should keep your shoulders as far away from your ears as possible. An easy way to get newbies to contract their lats and protect their shoulders.