Latest Polling Information Reveals....

countingbeans · October 25, 2012, 2:41am

Interesting read, well for the red folks.

ZEB · October 25, 2012, 3:47pm

Romney holds a three point lead over Obama as of today according to Rasmussen. (Gallup Agrees)

[quote]The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 50% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 47%. Two percent (2%) prefers some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided. See daily tracking history.

These updates are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, approximately one-third of the interviews for todayÃ¢??s update were completed before the end of Monday nightÃ¢??s presidential debate. Tomorrow morning (Friday) will be the first update based entirely upon interviews conducted after the final debate.

Heading into the first presidential debate, Obama was up two. Heading into the final debate, Romney had a two-point advantage.[/quote]

Apparently, Romney gained even more ground after the second and third debate although about one third of the polling does not reflect the full impact of the final debate.

And Gallup seems to agree with this national number:

When Rasumussen and Gallup agree there is very little else that needs to be looked at in terms of polling. However, as we all know this race is about electoral votes and in Ohio the candidates are still tied.

The momentum is with Romney at this point and I maintain that Obam needs more than a one point lead nationally or in most any state in order to win as the independents always break for the challenger, and the anti-Obama vote is much stronger than the pro obama vote. Romney’s vote will turn out in high numbers!

That means that Obam needs to turn a three point deficit into a five point lead to feel comfortable on election day. Since he is currently down by three he must turn this about eight points in 12 days. This could happen for many reasons but I assure you that they are cooking up the October surprise!

Possible October surprise:

Saying they captured, or killed the Benghazi gang.
Cooking the books for the final economic numbers which come out before election day (What? Zeb…my gosh they wouldn’t do that. Ha ha…Politicians will do anything to win stop being naive)
The Mormon attack. (Could be anything from anyone from NBC to any number of media lap dogs)
Something personal about Romney. Most likely fiction like their summer ads.

Anyone else care to guess what an October surprise could be which would help move Obama up 8 points in 12 days?

smh23 · October 25, 2012, 3:49pm

On the whole–looking at every poll, especially the state ones–I’m becoming increasingly convinced that this election is going to extremely close. Like not called until a day or two after election day.

smh23 · October 25, 2012, 3:54pm

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Cooking the books for the final economic numbers which come out before election day (What? Zeb…my gosh they wouldn’t do that. Ha ha…Politicians will do anything to win stop being naive)

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I don’t believe that this is really possible. Never mind the fact that most experts say the firewall between the reports and the politicians is pretty absolute. Just look at the opportunity cost: in a close election, who in their right mind would risk being found out as a brazen Nixonian thug? Obama would rather lose and go down in history as the first black President than lose and go down in history as the first black President who cheated and left 1600 Penn Ave in utter disgrace.

ZEB · October 25, 2012, 4:05pm

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Cooking the books for the final economic numbers which come out before election day (What? Zeb…my gosh they wouldn’t do that. Ha ha…Politicians will do anything to win stop being naive)

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I don’t believe that this is really possible. Never mind the fact that most experts say the firewall between the reports and the politicians is pretty absolute. Just look at the opportunity cost: in a close election, who in their right mind would risk being found out as a brazen Nixonian thug? Obama would rather lose and go down in history as the first black President than lose and go down in history as the first black President who cheated and left 1600 Penn Ave in utter disgrace.[/quote]

I figured it would be either you or Mufasa to chime in that "this could never happen’

You assume too much my friend. Obama would rather NOT lose. And cooking the books is a great way for him to win. When does a politician in the heat of battle ever think of the consequences of getting caught cheating? But Obama is above it all right? Bwahahaha…

And as a matter of fact a very distinguished business person, Jack Welch, already thinks Obama has cooked the books to offer up an unemployment rate of 7.8%. Frankly, I don’t agree with him as this is just an indication of yet more people dropping from the long list of people looking for work.

Honestly, can anyone imagine what this race would be like if there were a fair media?

Can you imagine the majority of the press jumping on the Benghazi story? Or just a little piece of it? There are many parts…

Obama would be down right now by about 12 points if the media treated Obama the way they treated Bush.

Okay, I wondered off topic, but yeah politicians cheat all the time and Obama comes from Chicago so open up those naive eyes of yours.

Obama will say and do ANYTHING to get reelected. And that is why I am not yet conviniced that he is headed for a loss.

Remember…it’s difficult to beat an incumbent ESPECIALLY when that incumbent has most of the media in his back pocket. And that also emboldens him to cheat his way back in again.

countingbeans · October 25, 2012, 4:07pm

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Saying they captured, or killed the Benghazi gang.[/quote]

I don’t think they go here. This can be a huge loser for him. Almost two months later… It could be spun against him, and I don’t think people care all that much. (Mainly because the press has let if fall away as a non-issue).

For the press to suddenly run with “He Got Em’” I would hope they would have to answer questions about why the video was used as cover, etc.

My aunt (solid lefty) said this weekend when the economy came up, and I mentioned how people are pushing the “it’s getting better” angle, “I don’t see it.”

I don’t see how any one report, or even series of reports changes people’s mind.

This would be my first guess, because the celebrity cries aren’t working, email pleas from Maya Angelo and performances by Katie Perry aren’t working.

They have an entusiasm gap. So an attack of romney’s could work well. Dogging mormons may do that trick.

But if the evil rich guy didn’t play, will evil mormon?

Boston Globe/Deval Patrick/MA Democrat machine would have gotten anything good enough to work by now. They have tried to run out a few involving his kids and his actions in MA, but they aren’t working.

I just don’t know if they have anything left. I mean look at the last couple weeks. Obama is still “blame and defame” and stuck on little things. Shit he was tweeting last night trying to tie Romney to the rape comments, twisting words etc. All women know how Ryan feels, on abortion, and Akin was the most widely covered topic outside of tax returns… Shit Obama is trying to take the romney approach. O is saying the same basic things about the race romney did on 60 mins while on NBC last night.

I honestly think Obama thought “romnesia” was going to save him. I’m not joking. I think Axelrod is tapped out. But then again, that may just be what they want people to think.

smh23 · October 25, 2012, 4:19pm

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Cooking the books for the final economic numbers which come out before election day (What? Zeb…my gosh they wouldn’t do that. Ha ha…Politicians will do anything to win stop being naive)