Haha perhaps, 3x was a long long time ago, I made such slow progress for a few years I didn’t realize I was close now.
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Larry heard me!!! Lol
Competing March 5th ish 2020 at Arnold’s XPC World’s.
He gonna smash that fkn record. 3 months to get used to weight and have a better idea of what he is capable of.
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Ehhhhh as I get fatter body weight multiples just become depressing LOL
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If he doesn’t do anything stupid he’s got it for sure. That being said, I can’t imagine him not doing anything stupid. Hopefully he can minimize it and break the record
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I really think he will dial in for this. He has missed it 3 times now I think?
He shouldn’t need the money anymore so he can put most of the silly IG stuff aside.
Also not for nothing Gags seems to know how to program for his silliness.
I don’t think it’s a case of if he will do something stupid, just when and how bad. Hell probably get away with it though.
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Ah to be young again.
I am running some numbers in my head. He has technically squatted 408, Deadlifted 408 and benched 302.5. All of those were training lifts and not close to whites BUT he did them.
I really think he goes 400-300-400 if he dials in.
All time Raw total is 1112.5 by the Goat Ray.
I’m no PLing coach but having just enjoyed a Thanksgiving Meal with one I’m curious everyone’s thoughts to his assessment of Larry’s latest videos:
(***not my assessments!)
-“Gaglione picked them worst Attempts and honestly Larry could have made it with a smarter coach”
-“Gaglione totally Ruined any concentration Larry had and probably stressed him out more. You can tell John is just there to hype his business”
Thoughts?
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Well there’s absolutely no doubt that the attempt selections were shit, pretty unanimous agreement on that among the PL community. Don’t know who had more input into those, Larry or Gag.
Haven’t seen any comments on his concentration.
I thought the attempt weight selections were odd. I think he set the bar way to high on his deadlift. He clearly had more for squat and bench.
I will say I watched the meet video and after his second squat he was not confident at all. It looked ugly and I don’t think he thought he had depth. He crushed third attempt though. And bench was a joke to him. He was not very confident though. Idk if that’s just cause he’s been away so long or what.
From the outside in obv we dont know that much buttt…
The problem with coaching Larry is he has OCD (BBing, Strongman, PLing in 8 week blocks) and does IG Yolo’s so a good coach can become irrelevant…having said that there are several better PL coaches than Gags. Gags only good totals have come from Larry right?
I dont think his attempt selection was that bad all things considered. They went low on his 3rd Squat because his 2nd was shit. His Bench he has no idea what he is capable at this weight because he has only been this weight for 4 weeks. His Deadlift he attempted what was necessary.
Obv it isnt normal to open at 77% of your planned 3rd but they had their reasons…which again a longer prep would have him better trained for PLing.
Larry was hyping his PR line too so it was a group effort there.
JG is a POS and I’ll stand by my statement… ohh not those thoughts?
Uhh - Out of the 2 people who had JG coach them for PL they both had bad results, so it sounds about right.
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This, and if they weren’t sure what he was actually capable of then his training is even more fucked up then we have been led to believe.
Who picked his attempts at his last meet where he bombed out on deadlifts? Way too heavy last time, too light this time. He also could have broken the full meet bench record, I’m not even sure if he was 275 or 308 but he was only a few pounds short of both and 308 is less.
Maybe because all his heavy benching is with elbow wraps?
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Interesting to hear people’s’ takes. Larry is just a genetic freak, but while I’ve worked with some actual professional athletes, most of my clientele are bodybuilders, so I won’t ever pretend to really know how PLing thinking runs, especially strategy with peaking for a meet.
As a coach, I will admit that sometimes you get a client who is just a genetic wonder, and IMO you can be smart about helping them progress or you can rely on their natural gifts and try to take credit for them (possibly cashing in on their name to make a buck selling programs online?). Looking at what Larry is capable of, and comparing that with what he’s actually achieved,… well, you see what I’m wondering.
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The thing is that he didn’t need to go all out on any lift to break the record, with smarter attempt selection he could have even broke it on his opening deadlift or at least 2nd if it wasn’t such a big jump. I don’t know too much about this Gaglione guy except that people say he’s a piece of shit, but if he’s the one picking attempts in this meet and the last one then he shouldn’t even be coaching at all.
The feeling I get with Larry is that there are a lot of people who want to see him fail, and it’s quite likely that some of these people are his “friends”. I’m not saying that Gaglione is like that, he could just be an idiot, but people telling him to max out with elbow wraps and squat high as fuck for Instagram videos are holding him back. It wouldn’t take a genius to put together a reasonable training cycle for him.
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Seriously though, just look at these numbers:
It’s no wonder that he had issues on his 2nd squat, it was a 110lb jump from his opener. That is just not reasonable at all. See how fast he benched 635, why the hell would he open with 490? It makes no sense at all. And opening on deadlift with 195lbs less than the planned 3rd attempt, I just don’t see a good reason.
Normally openers are around 90% of your planned 3rd attempt. 85% would be abnormally low, and you have a lot of guys opening heavy too like Yury Belkin. This here is just foolishness.
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Agree with every thing else but I really like what Yury does. He never bombs out and he always gets every kilo out of his Squat and Bench. His deads maybe not quite as much but by then he usually has 1st locked up and is YOLOing for some kind of WR.
I personally dont think 9 for 9 is that important. Most important is getting what ever you have out of each lift on that day.
Using that same logic there is no reason that Larry couldnt have opened with his 2nds and passed on 3rds if need be.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying, I mean “you also have guys opening heavy”, not that he’s opening too heavy. He’s doing what works for him and there is a reason he has the highest men’s Wilks of all time and several ATWRs.
At Big Dogs he made what, 4 lifts? And came 3rd against guys weighing 100+lbs more than him. The only thing I can say is that he should have taken a lighter 2nd attempt on squats, but he’s obviously into taking risks and is aiming to win.
What a guy like Belkin can or should do is totally different from what the rest of us need to do.
Looking at his 2nd attempts, his openers were too light for even a last warmup. He seriously needs a different coach. What happened with him and Efferding? He would be 1000x better as a coach and meet day handler.
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I thought Larry was getting coached by Sebastian Oreb (Thor, Hicks etc.) for a bit but legit it may have been just two weeks because he mentioned it one vid then nada
I actually forgot about Big Dogs. Yea that wasnt great and still 3rd.
I dont think he was ever coached by Efferding just did some workouts with him.
@guineapig he was for about 5 minutes for Strongman reasons but at the same time not really because in his videos he pretty much ignored everything Oreb said LOL then he tore his bicep which was just bad luck.
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