What a bunch of crap. If the US Anti-Doping Agency ever did conduct a “witch-hunt,” this was it. No positive drug tests aside from one prescription CORTICO-steroid positive, but they just would not leave well enough alone. How many years now have they been hounding Armstrong for this crap? Absolutely shameful. Hope they are happy now that they’ve successfully destroyed a superstar and one of the greatest athletes of all time. Asses.
Probably does more harm to cycling than to Armstrong, although his foundation will most likely suffer.
*2 to everything you said Cortes. Total bullshit!
Agreed. Total bullshit.
Cortes make a good point. No positive drug tests. How can they do this?
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He’ll overcome this as well.
Even if he did use, it seems irrelevant. The PEDs didn’t do the cycling for him. And how many people at that level have used PEDs?
[quote]Consul wrote:
Even if he did use, it seems irrelevant. The PEDs didn’t do the cycling for him. And how many people at that level have used PEDs?[/quote]
Exactly, it would have been even more impressive to have a non drugged cyclist beat a field of drugged cyclist. I highly doubt there is anyone at the head of the pack that isn’t using. They should be kissing his ass for bringing ANY interest to the sport.
Yeah, this is bullshit. No one at that level is clean so it’s a fair playing field.
What I don’t get is that you have rules. If he passed all the tests, then he played by the rules. Unless they are going to rake through the past of every competitor with an army of investigators, its the USADA that’s breaking the rules. If they are pissed that he doped and got away with it, they need to figure out a better method of enforcement. You can’t invent special rules for him just because he won a bunch of times.
1 million dollars says if he was a middle of the pack finisher, he’d never have been investigated. That isn’t a level playing field. You are changing the rules because you don’t like the results at that point.
Jim Thorpe.
Anyone remember the runners up?
Exactly.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
What I don’t get is that you have rules. If he passed all the tests, then he played by the rules. Unless they are going to rake through the past of every competitor with an army of investigators, its the USADA that’s breaking the rules. If they are pissed that he doped and got away with it, they need to figure out a better method of enforcement. You can’t invent special rules for him just because he won a bunch of times.
1 million dollars says if he was a middle of the pack finisher, he’d never have been investigated. That isn’t a level playing field. You are changing the rules because you don’t like the results at that point.[/quote]
Why does it matter? If he didn’t cheat he wouldn’t have to worry about any investigation. You can’t expect someone that won 7 straight tours to get the same level of attention as someone that didn’t do shit in the sport.
That writer sounds like a fucking prick, too.
Not that this really matters either way, but I know a handful of people who’ve met Armstrong personally and to a person they all say he’s as big an asshole as you’d ever meet. Maybe this is karma.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Not that this really matters either way, but I know a handful of people who’ve met Armstrong personally and to a person they all say he’s as big an asshole as you’d ever meet. Maybe this is karma.[/quote]
One of them isn’t Sheryl Crow is it?
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Not that this really matters either way, but I know a handful of people who’ve met Armstrong personally and to a person they all say he’s as big an asshole as you’d ever meet. Maybe this is karma.[/quote]
One of them isn’t Sheryl Crow is it?[/quote]
Haha, unfortunately, no. I’ve always thought she was sexy in a weird way.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
What I don’t get is that you have rules. If he passed all the tests, then he played by the rules. Unless they are going to rake through the past of every competitor with an army of investigators, its the USADA that’s breaking the rules. If they are pissed that he doped and got away with it, they need to figure out a better method of enforcement. You can’t invent special rules for him just because he won a bunch of times.
1 million dollars says if he was a middle of the pack finisher, he’d never have been investigated. That isn’t a level playing field. You are changing the rules because you don’t like the results at that point.[/quote]
Why does it matter? If he didn’t cheat he wouldn’t have to worry about any investigation. You can’t expect someone that won 7 straight tours to get the same level of attention as someone that didn’t do shit in the sport. [/quote]
If you don’t understand why it matters that they are changing the rules after the fact based on outcome, there is no way I can explain it to you.
Maybe you and I can play cards sometimes and I’ll adjust the rules as I see fit. If you win too much, I’ll give you “extra” rules and take back your winnings after the fact because you didn’t abide by the extra rules before they were invented.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
What I don’t get is that you have rules. If he passed all the tests, then he played by the rules. Unless they are going to rake through the past of every competitor with an army of investigators, its the USADA that’s breaking the rules. If they are pissed that he doped and got away with it, they need to figure out a better method of enforcement. You can’t invent special rules for him just because he won a bunch of times.
1 million dollars says if he was a middle of the pack finisher, he’d never have been investigated. That isn’t a level playing field. You are changing the rules because you don’t like the results at that point.[/quote]
Why does it matter? If he didn’t cheat he wouldn’t have to worry about any investigation. You can’t expect someone that won 7 straight tours to get the same level of attention as someone that didn’t do shit in the sport. [/quote]
He didn’t he was tested over 500 times in his career and failed one test for a not particularly PED. Never caught in 500 tests. He faced a lot more scrutiny.
The guy came back from TESTICULAR CANCER…I don’t care if he was shooting straight Test into his eyeball on the The Champs-Elysees.
No failed tests, and an organization that was clearly out to make an example of him…just an epic waste of taxpayer money.
Think of the ten’s of MILLIONS of dollars spent going after Bonds, Clemens and Armstrong…all for nothing, it’s not going to disuade anybody from using PED’s (witness the three failed tests in MLB this past week) and it’s not going to change anybody’s opinion on Bonds/Clemens/Armstrong. If you liked them before, you like them now.
what a joke.