[quote]BantamRunner wrote:
I think Kimbo will do well against the TUF crow as these guys aren’t big name fighters. TUF is mostly a marketing tool. Success is not a given. Look at Bisping? Probably the most overrated winner of all time…but he sells fights and that is extremely important. Yeah, you’re going to have some exceptional talent and in the HW division there are a lot of brawlers and knockout artists. The Frank Mir type of heavyweight is the exception, not the norm, AND that is the problem with UFC’s heavyweight division.
If the 100 year old Kimbo can learn to increase his cardio he’ll do fine. His problem is that if he doesn’t knock you out in the first round he’s toast. The MMA vets and TUF fighters who have a chin can rope-a-dope 'ol Kimbo until his punches lack that first round power.
If Kimbo can increase his cardio I really don’t care what other skills he has…he’ll be successful just knocking people out. If he can EVER learn to avoid a takedown and become an “iceman” type fighter he’ll be pretty scary…but he’s old and learning new skills is probably not his best ability. I really don’t know the other fighters and don’t know if any of them have a good chin plus a wrestling background. If so Kimbo may make to the final or semis. If no one on the show has both a good chin and wrestling background Kimbo may just pull off the win…a ratings and financial boom for Dana.
Then it’s a marekting and promotion dream: Lesnar vs Kimbo. Two fighters the average Joe on the street know by name…regardless of talent level.
While we’re talking about fights…Dana needs to put together more superfights. GSP vs Anderson Silva at a catchweight of 180lb. That’s a lot of weight for Silva to lose…but GSP is a cutting machine and probably walks around at 180-85.[/quote]
boy, i don’t know. this show isn’t stacked with no-name rookies. We have proven vets and world-class atheletes. there are quite a few guys that will outclass Kimbo in every aspect of the game. A HW with KO power is not all that rare. You have to be able to do a bit more than that. There are a few guys I know nothing about, so I give him one win at best.
[quote]BantamRunner wrote:
I think Kimbo will do well against the TUF crow as these guys aren’t big name fighters. TUF is mostly a marketing tool. Success is not a given. Look at Bisping? Probably the most overrated winner of all time…but he sells fights and that is extremely important. Yeah, you’re going to have some exceptional talent and in the HW division there are a lot of brawlers and knockout artists. The Frank Mir type of heavyweight is the exception, not the norm, AND that is the problem with UFC’s heavyweight division.
If the 100 year old Kimbo can learn to increase his cardio he’ll do fine. His problem is that if he doesn’t knock you out in the first round he’s toast. The MMA vets and TUF fighters who have a chin can rope-a-dope 'ol Kimbo until his punches lack that first round power.
If Kimbo can increase his cardio I really don’t care what other skills he has…he’ll be successful just knocking people out. If he can EVER learn to avoid a takedown and become an “iceman” type fighter he’ll be pretty scary…but he’s old and learning new skills is probably not his best ability. I really don’t know the other fighters and don’t know if any of them have a good chin plus a wrestling background. If so Kimbo may make to the final or semis. If no one on the show has both a good chin and wrestling background Kimbo may just pull off the win…a ratings and financial boom for Dana.
Then it’s a marekting and promotion dream: Lesnar vs Kimbo. Two fighters the average Joe on the street know by name…regardless of talent level.
While we’re talking about fights…Dana needs to put together more superfights. GSP vs Anderson Silva at a catchweight of 180lb. That’s a lot of weight for Silva to lose…but GSP is a cutting machine and probably walks around at 180-85.[/quote]
I really don’t know where to start here. Kimo’s striking wouldn’t anywhere near the top of the division. He also got knocked out by a jab from a middle-of-the-road fighter in Seth Petruzelli that was falling away from him (backing up) His takedown defense is terrible if James Thompson was taking him down at will, and his grappling game is virtually non-existant. His cardio was not his only problem.
The guys in this season’s cast are fairly experienced fighters from all over. Just because you’ve only heard of Kimbo doesn’t make him the most talented on the show. He will get ruined by season’s end, but he may have some impressive performances - his physicallity gives him a chance in almost any fight he’s in.
Bisping took the former Light Heavyweight Champ to a decision in a fairly competitive bout. The guy is obnoxious at times and not always the most exciting, but give credit where credit is due, he is an elite level fighter that trains hard. One thing I’d guaruntee, Bisping would destroy Kimbo.
Okay, here’s my opinion as a former MMA fighter (4(1 knockout, 3 submissions)-1)…
Kimbo’s chances are pretty good. I notice a lot of people are betting on Roy Nelson, albeit yes Big Country does have a big powerful right hand and has a some what impressive record, you all have to realize Nelson, most of the time like’s to keep things standing up.
When he took Arlovski down in their EliteXC fight, top mount, you didn’t really do much of anything at all but attempt to smother Andrei.
His ground game is rather unimpressive in my opinion. He couldn’t do anything while Arlovski more or less gave Roy his arm.
He then stood up with Andrei and got creamed.
Roy Nelson will not beat Kimbo standing, he won’t do much on the ground either.He showed about the ground skills of James Thompson who also couldn’t close the deal with Kimbo on the ground.
To my understanding Kimbo did some trainging after leaving Bas, with Gracie Ju-Jitsu.
The KO heard around the world, delivered to Kimbo via jab by Petruzelli was not a knockout in fact.
Kimbo, poorly dodges a mid-section kick by scooting backwards, losing balance, Seth pops Kimbo with a jab knocking him even more off balance and leveling the internet sensation.
He then delivers 6 blows to the BACK of Kimbo’s head, which is supposedly illegal but wasn’t called.
Kimbo was in motion the entire time, that’s not a knockout, he’s just slow.
Do I think Kimbo Slice will win TUF 10? I’m undecided. I want him to, he probably will lose in the finale due to decision though.
Yar, kimbo’s gonna win it. Then get his instant title shot at Brockosaurus.