Kick 'em While They're Down

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:

St. Matthew 5:18
“For assuredly, I [Jesus Christ] say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled”.
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Well actually no tough luck the good news is that after he said this, he got on a cross and died for all of our sins! ALL no asteriks! Saved by grace stellar! Jeez, what do you think the gospels are all about, THE GOOD NEWS!

[quote]100meters wrote:
Well actually no tough luck the good news is that after he said this, he got on a cross and died for all of our sins! ALL no asteriks! Saved by grace stellar! Jeez, what do you think the gospels are all about, THE GOOD NEWS!
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So now you’re a theologian as well as an expert in government and politics and economics and history?

(shaking head…walking away…)

[quote]100meters wrote:
Zeb, the bible never condemns homosexuality in the modern day sense, Leviticus and corinthians are referring to another kind of activity (I would refer you to the actual translation of the words used, which in modern times have been replaced with the new word “homosexuality” but that term isn’t actually in the bible…[/quote]

I have seen the Corinthians passage referencing homosexuals or alternately the effeminate in my internet searches. As I am no bible scholar what to you think is the original meaning?

[quote]100meters wrote:
Zeb, the bible never condemns homosexuality in the modern day sense, Leviticus and corinthians are referring to another kind of activity (I would refer you to the actual translation of the words used, which in modern times have been replaced with the new word “homosexuality” but that term isn’t actually in the bible.), that has nothing to do with two people of the same gender loving each other, FYI. Also christ did die for all of our sins. We are saved by his grace, not by deeds so that none may brag, this is a gift that I presume stretches into the infinite, and I don’t see any asteriks or footnotes on this one, and as galatians makes clear those teaching a different gospel are condemned to hell. Anybody who tells you otherwise would be playing word games (example:homosexuality, abortion etc. these things just aren’t in the bible)[/quote]

Sorry, but Homosexuality, and also it’s “meaning” is in the Bible, several times and it’s never a good thing :slight_smile:

We are saved by grace, not by deeds. However, it also says in many places that the only way to be saved is through belief in Jesus Christ. Accpeting Christ as your savior. When we do this we turn from “sin” in all it’s forms, or at least try to.

That means you don’t flaunt sin, you attempt to “flee from sin” in fact. If you embrace sin then you have not accepted Christ, you only pay it lip service.

Keep in mind these are not my rules, it’s in the Bible!

If they were my rules I would want to be all warm and fuzzy sort of like my friend lothario. I would probably get all weak kneed and accept about everyone into Heaven. All but really really nasty people, like Stalin, Hitler and other mass murderers. But darn the luck, not my rules…and not your rules!

Don’t play word games with the Bible, it’s only going to hurt you in the long believe it or not!

[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
ZEB: Okay. My bad. Make that TWO references to homosexuality being bad. [/quote]

Exactly how many does it take? Have you read Romans chapter 1?

Zeb’s paragraph on people applauding sin is also addressed in that chapter as well as statements about homosexuality. There’s certainly more than two “lists” in Scripture.

Matt

[quote]100meters wrote:
the bible never condemns homosexuality in the modern day sense[/quote]

Can you explain then what homosexuality referred to in the ancient sense? That’s a rhetorical question by-the-way. It’s the same concept yesterday, today, & tomorrow.

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Leviticus and corinthians are referring to another kind of activity (I would refer you to the actual translation of the words used, which in modern times have been replaced with the new word “homosexuality” but that term isn’t actually in the bible).[/quote]

The New Testament was written in ancient Greek (which fortunately a handful of priests at my church can decipher quite effectively). Those passages refer EXACTLY to sexual relations between persons of the same gender. With the assistance of these human resources, I’m able to avoid getting tangled up by the errors of interpretation which so many people are confused by. I even own a copy of the Septuagint, the Old Testament translation from the Hebrew language to ancient Greek by 70 Jewish scholars in Alexandria, Egypt around the time of 285-247 BC.

It’ll cost you a pretty penny but it’s definitely worth every cent. Most people are ignorant to the fact that the Old Testament, as most English copies convey it, is actually derived from the Massoretic version which was established between the years 500-1000 AD by reformatting the Septuagint back into Hebrew, and then back into various languages.

Talk about a game of telephone! Acknowledging this process, it’s understandable how certain copies of the Massoretic text circulating today may depict an erroneous interpretation of that passage in Leviticus, but the Septuagint is definitely crystal clear that homosexual relations are an abomination according to the laws of God.

The English language is incompetent when compared to the rich lexicon of ancient/modern Greek. There are two kinds of love which the Bible expresses; eros & agape.

The love which Christ preached was agape which is accurately defined as:

a: unselfish, loyal, and benevolent concern for the good of another: as (1): the fatherly concern of God for humankind & (2): brotherly concern for others

b: a person’s adoration of God
Two men/women may have feelings of agape towards each other, and this is virtuous in the eyes of God.


The love which Christ condemns is eros and is accurately defined as:

1: of, devoted to, or tending to arouse sexual love or desire

2: strongly marked or affected by sexual desire
This is the type of love which two people of the same sex may never submit to.

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Also christ did die for all of our sins. We are saved by his grace, not by deeds so that none may brag, this is a gift that I presume stretches into the infinite, and I don’t see any asteriks or footnotes on this one, and as galatians makes clear those teaching a different gospel are condemned to hell. Anybody who tells you otherwise would be playing word games (example:homosexuality, abortion etc. these things just aren’t in the bible) [/quote]

So what you’re saying is that we’re saved by grace, and that no deed that we commit has an effect on our salvation EXCEPT when it comes to preaching a different gospel, right? Let’s just toss out all the commandments of Christ and walk in our own degenerate, lawless ways, right?

What’s to worry, we’re saved! Dude, if you really believe this, you’ve deluded yourself in a whirlwind of heresy. You may or may not own a copy of the Bible, but you sure as hell don’t understand the basic essence of the Christian Faith. And before you rant off on a topic you’re not equipped to discuss, just realize that YOU’RE the one preaching a different gospel.

St. Matthew 7:22
“Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness’!”

to be continued…

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:

So what you’re saying is that we’re saved by grace, and that no deed that we commit has an effect on our salvation EXCEPT when it comes to preaching a different gospel, right? Let’s just toss out all the commandments of Christ and walk in our own degenerate, lawless ways, right?

What’s to worry, we’re saved! Dude, if you really believe this, you’ve deluded yourself in a whirlwind of heresy. You may or may not own a copy of the Bible, but you sure as hell don’t understand the basic essence of the Christian Faith. And before you rant off on a topic you’re not equipped to discuss, just realize that YOU’RE the one preaching a different gospel.
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I’m not certain he was saying all that. I don’t think he was claiming that we can be “carnal Christians”. At least that’s not how I read it. Certainly we are called to obedience. But I think the point was that the letter to the Galatians emphasized Grace as apposed to works as the Judaisers had been suggesting.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I didn’t read “sin all you want so that grace may abound” in his post.

Matt

I can’t emphasize enough the flaw many people make by looking to find all the rules and regulations of a proper lifestyle within Christianity by simply skimming through a Bible. Yes, the Bible is the centerpiece of the Christian Faith but it does NOT encompass the entirety of the Faith. This is the reason why Christ presented us with His Church.
http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/sola_scriptura_john_whiteford.htm

1 St. Timothy 3:14
“These things I write to you, though I hope to come to you shortly; but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.”

It’s important to remember that the Church holds many teachings not fully communicated within the Bible. For it is also written:
St. John 21:25
“And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.”

The Christian Faith is composed of both written AND oral traditions so for all of you claiming you disagree with one translation of the Bible or another, this loophole is null and void.

2 Thessalonians 2:15
“Therefore brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by WORD, or our epistle.”

This WORD is preserved within the Orthodox Christian Church.

The Orthodox Christian tradition clearly denounces any manifestation of homosexuality. The Didache (Teaching of the Twelve Apostles), the works of St. Basil the Great, St. John Chrysostomos, St. Gregory of Nyssa, Blessed Augustine, and the canon of St. John the Faster all express the unchangeable teaching of the Church that homosexual relations are sinful and should be condemned. People involved in them have no right to even be members of the clergy.

Refer to:
St. Gregory the Great, Canon 7
St. Gregory of Nyssa, Canon 4
St. John the Faster, Canon 30

Addressing those who stained themselves with the sin of sodomy, St. Maxim the Greek made this appeal:
“See at yourselves, damned ones, what a foul pleasure you indulge in! Try to give up as soon as possible this most nasty and stinking pleasure of yours, to hate it and to fulminate eternally those who argue that it is innocent as enemies of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and corrupters of His teaching. Cleanse yourselves of this blight by repentance, ardent tears, alms-giving as much as you can and pure prayer. Hate this unrighteousness with all your heart, so that you may not be sons of damnation and eternal death.”

The Orthodox Church proceeds from the invariable conviction that the divinely established marital union of man and woman cannot be compared to the perverted manifestations of sexuality. She believes homosexuality to be a sinful distortion of human nature, which is overcome by spiritual effort leading to the healing and personal growth of the individual. Homosexual desires, just as other passions torturing fallen man, are healed by the sacraments, prayer, fasting, repentance, reading of Holy Scriptures and patristic writings, as well as Christian fellowship with believers who are ready to give spiritual support.

The Orthodox Church (est. 33 AD) has never vacillated on her stance on homosexuality. Whether in oral or written expression, this malady has always been condemned. I don’t know or care to comment on some other new age so-called churches, or the liberal minded, heretical faiths of other Christian communities, but the truth as preached by Christ and His Church is absolute and not open to compromise.

Heretics will not enter the kingdom of God.
Heresy: Following one’s own choice or opinion instead of divine truth preserved by the Church, so as to cause division among Christians. Heresy is a system of thought which contradicts true doctrine. It is false teaching, which all true Christians must reject (Matt. 7:15; 2 Pet. 2:1).
There are many lies yet only one truth.

to be continued…

Hold on, is this saying that all oral sex is bad? Even between hetero married couples?

And for those who want to throw around references in efforts of condoning homosexuality on a biogenetics or sociological level, I’m game. Let’s fight fire with fire. There’s another side to the coin you cunningly fail to mention and in efforts to protect the uneducated public from reading your biased posts and drawing uninformed conclusions, I’ve listed these references below so that a FULL evaluation on the issue may be conducted by intrigued readers.

Paul Cameron, PhD, “Medical Consequences of what Homosexuals Do”
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet3.html

RECTAL SEX a.k.a. sodomy
“Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month long study of daily sexual diaries, gays averaged 110 sex partners and 68 rectal encounters a year.”
*Also read on how gays use innocent, furry little creatures to fulfill their sexual desires. The grave sins of Sodom & Gomorrah (sodomy & bestiality) are evidently commonplace among homosexuals.

FECAL SEX
“About 80% of gays admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study, 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity - half regularly over 6 months.”
*Like dogs who return to their own vomit… so it is with grave sinners and heinous abominations.

SADOMASOCHISM
“…a large minority of gays engage in torture for sexual fun. Sex with minors 25% of white gays admitted to sex with boys 16 or younger as adults. In a 9-state study, 33% of the 181 male, and 22% of the 18 female teachers caught molesting students did so homosexually (though less than 3% of men and 2% of women engage in homosexuality… and 90% said that they used illegal drugs.”
*Analyzing this statistic it becomes clear that homosexuals, although a substantially smaller minority of the population, are exponentially at risk for molesting children.

John R Diggs, Jr, MD, “The Health Risks of Gay Sex” (pdf file)
http://www.corporateresourcecouncil.org/white_papers/Health_Risks.pdf

“Health and Homosexuality”
http://www.homosexuellt.com/infosida/show_article.asp?Idnr=207

Timothy J Dailey, PhD, “The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality”
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1

Timothy J Dailey, PhD, “Homosexual Parenting: Placing Children at Risk”
http://www.frc.org/index.cfm?i=IS01J3&f=WU05A06&t=e

Timothy J Dailey, PhD, “Comparing the Lifestyles of Homosexual Couples to Married Couples”
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02

Timothy J Dailey, PhD, “Ten Arguments from Social Science Research Against Same-Sex Marriage”

*As a veteran in the field of social services, I found this article quite enlightening.

NARTH, “What Do Clinical Studies Say?” (a compilation of links to several reports)
http://www.narth.com/menus/cstudies.html

NARTH, “Born That Way” Theory (a compilation of links to several reports)
http://www.narth.com/menus/born.html
*Bookmark these and forward to your gay or uneducated friends.

“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” May these words continue to echo in my heart as I hope they will in the hearts of homosexuals and all you other readers.

I developed a personal quote years ago which I repeat every so often when it seems I’ve fallen on hard times, am faltering with certain sins, or being tested by God.

Life flashes by in the blink of an eye, but eternity is forever.
-stellar_horizon

Peace be with you all.

[quote]ToShinDo wrote:
I don’t consider gays (in general) to be perverts.
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It doesn’t really matter what you consider perverted when it comes down to the wire.

Now go look up Romans 1 and start rationalizing it away.

[quote]ToShinDo wrote:
I personally hold nothing against homosexuals but they urgently need to repent. As does everyone who engages in premarital affairs, oral sex, or anal sex with a member of the opposite gender - we’re no better.

Hold on, is this saying that all oral sex is bad? Even between hetero married couples?[/quote]

Yes, that’s exactly what it’s saying. Oral sex between any persons is a form of sexual immorality. Not sure what exact penalty of measure the apostolic canons enforce concerning oral sex but from what I recall, according to the Orthodox Church, the individual committing the sin is prohibited from receiving the holy Eucharist for 6 full months. Oral sex is deemed a grave sin.

Augustine:
“For necessary sexual intercourse for begetting [children] is alone worthy of marriage. But that which goes beyond this necessity no longer follows reason but lust. And yet it pertains to the character of marriage . . . to yield it to the partner lest by fornication the other sin damnably [through adultery]. . . . [T]hey [must] not turn away from them the mercy of God . . . by changing the natural use into that which is against nature, which is more damnable when it is done in the case of husband or wife. For, whereas that natural use, when it pass beyond the compact of marriage, that is, beyond the necessity of begetting [children], is pardonable in the case of a wife, damnable in the case of a harlot; that which is against nature is execrable when done in the case of a harlot, but more execrable in the case of a wife. Of so great power is the ordinance of the Creator, and the order of creation, that . . . when the man shall wish to use a body part of the wife not allowed for this purpose [orally or anally consummated sex], the wife is more shameful, if she suffer it to take place in her own case, than if in the case of another woman” (The Good of Marriage 11-12 [A.D. 401]).

The Letter of Barnabas:
“Moreover, he [Moses] has rightly detested the weasel [Lev. 11:29]. For he means, ‘Thou shall not be like to those whom we hear of as committing wickedness with the mouth with the body through uncleanness [orally consummated sex]; nor shall thou be joined to those impure women who commit iniquity with the mouth with the body through uncleanness’” (Letter of Barnabas 10:8 [A.D. 74]).

[quote]Joe Weider wrote:
100meters wrote:
Well actually no tough luck the good news is that after he said this, he got on a cross and died for all of our sins! ALL no asteriks! Saved by grace stellar! Jeez, what do you think the gospels are all about, THE GOOD NEWS!

So now you’re a theologian as well as an expert in government and politics and economics and history?

(shaking head…walking away…)
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I don’t think you have to be a theologian to get the died for all of our sins! It’s in there, trust me.

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:
ToShinDo wrote:
I personally hold nothing against homosexuals but they urgently need to repent. As does everyone who engages in premarital affairs, oral sex, or anal sex with a member of the opposite gender - we’re no better.

Hold on, is this saying that all oral sex is bad? Even between hetero married couples?

Yes, that’s exactly what it’s saying. Oral sex between any persons is a form of sexual immorality.
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Damn. No wonder everyone’s so tense - it’s all “Nil by Mouth”.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
100meters wrote:
Zeb, the bible never condemns homosexuality in the modern day sense, Leviticus and corinthians are referring to another kind of activity (I would refer you to the actual translation of the words used, which in modern times have been replaced with the new word “homosexuality” but that term isn’t actually in the bible…

I have seen the Corinthians passage referencing homosexuals or alternately the effeminate in my internet searches. As I am no bible scholar what to you think is the original meaning?

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Zap,
First homosexuality is a 19th century term, the concept had no real meaning to biblical writers 2000 years ago so no word in the bible is translated to homosexual.

More to the point the word in question in Corinthians, and timothy is “arsenokoites” it is two words put togeather “man” and “bed”, it doesn’t appear anywhere else in the bible or in greek lit. from Paul’s time. The most likely scenario is that it refers to male prostitution w/ female customers, common in those days.

The word you mention is malakoi which is mistranslated for bias to effeminate, but actually means soft, or better yet here vulnerable,pliable,unreliable. Its used in matthew and luke as soft(reference to clothing) and isn’t used anywhere else.

As for Leviticus, the two passages are specifically referring to heterosexuals who sleep with men during baal fertility rituals used to help guarantee good crops and healthy flocks! The word translated “abomination” is “to?ebah” which means a condemned pagan cult practice (see the context here with the other “abominations”?)

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Sorry, but Homosexuality, and also it’s “meaning” is in the Bible, several times and it’s never a good thing :slight_smile:
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Sorry, ZEB, but it NEVER appears as a word in the bible…NEVER. Male prostitution is, cult rituals involving heteros sleeping with men are in there, but homosexuality is never mentioned nor is their a negative reference to consenting loving homosexual relations. In fact there are maybe 3(several) cases of homosexual loving relations in the bible and none are condemned see David and Jonathan for an example—it appears to be a good thing in this story, so the exact opposite of your conclusion

Your right, I was assuming that those in here concerned with going to heaven had already accepted Jesus, and we all know what happens when you assume.

[quote]Matthew9v9 wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
ZEB: Okay. My bad. Make that TWO references to homosexuality being bad.

Exactly how many does it take? Have you read Romans chapter 1?

Zeb’s paragraph on people applauding sin is also addressed in that chapter as well as statements about homosexuality. There’s certainly more than two “lists” in Scripture.

Matt[/quote]

There are zero lists refering to homosexuality as a loving relationship between 2 people in the bible as it “was” written. Roman’s chapter 1 is Paul railing on idolatrous worship and rituals, read for context! Paul certainly had the ability to use very clear language to condemn consentual homosexual relations, but NEVER does, nor does Jesus for that matter. You have to be careful about preaching a different gospel.

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:
100meters wrote:
the bible never condemns homosexuality in the modern day sense

Can you explain then what homosexuality referred to in the ancient sense? That’s a rhetorical question by-the-way. It’s the same concept yesterday, today, & tomorrow.

Leviticus and corinthians are referring to another kind of activity (I would refer you to the actual translation of the words used, which in modern times have been replaced with the new word “homosexuality” but that term isn’t actually in the bible).

The New Testament was written in ancient Greek (which fortunately a handful of priests at my church can decipher quite effectively). Those passages refer EXACTLY to sexual relations between persons of the same gender. With the assistance of these human resources, I’m able to avoid getting tangled up by the errors of interpretation which so many people are confused by. I even own a copy of the Septuagint, the Old Testament translation from the Hebrew language to ancient Greek by 70 Jewish scholars in Alexandria, Egypt around the time of 285-247 BC.

It’ll cost you a pretty penny but it’s definitely worth every cent. Most people are ignorant to the fact that the Old Testament, as most English copies convey it, is actually derived from the Massoretic version which was established between the years 500-1000 AD by reformatting the Septuagint back into Hebrew, and then back into various languages.

Talk about a game of telephone! Acknowledging this process, it’s understandable how certain copies of the Massoretic text circulating today may depict an erroneous interpretation of that passage in Leviticus, but the Septuagint is definitely crystal clear that homosexual relations are an abomination according to the laws of God.

that has nothing to do with two people of the same gender loving each other.

The English language is incompetent when compared to the rich lexicon of ancient/modern Greek. There are two kinds of love which the Bible expresses; eros & agape.

The love which Christ preached was agape which is accurately defined as:

a: unselfish, loyal, and benevolent concern for the good of another: as (1): the fatherly concern of God for humankind & (2): brotherly concern for others

b: a person’s adoration of God
Two men/women may have feelings of agape towards each other, and this is virtuous in the eyes of God.


The love which Christ condemns is eros and is accurately defined as:

1: of, devoted to, or tending to arouse sexual love or desire

2: strongly marked or affected by sexual desire
This is the type of love which two people of the same sex may never submit to.

Also christ did die for all of our sins. We are saved by his grace, not by deeds so that none may brag, this is a gift that I presume stretches into the infinite, and I don’t see any asteriks or footnotes on this one, and as galatians makes clear those teaching a different gospel are condemned to hell. Anybody who tells you otherwise would be playing word games (example:homosexuality, abortion etc. these things just aren’t in the bible)

So what you’re saying is that we’re saved by grace, and that no deed that we commit has an effect on our salvation EXCEPT when it comes to preaching a different gospel, right? Let’s just toss out all the commandments of Christ and walk in our own degenerate, lawless ways, right?

What’s to worry, we’re saved! Dude, if you really believe this, you’ve deluded yourself in a whirlwind of heresy. You may or may not own a copy of the Bible, but you sure as hell don’t understand the basic essence of the Christian Faith. And before you rant off on a topic you’re not equipped to discuss, just realize that YOU’RE the one preaching a different gospel.

St. Matthew 7:22
“Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness’!”

to be continued…[/quote]

Wrong, in several ways…OY! you quote matthew 7:22 AND THEN…he died for all of our sins, It’s grace,grace,grace,! What did he say to those dying with him? I’ll take Jesus over you I think.
(Read the Gospels—it will help)

[quote]Matthew9v9 wrote:
ToShinDo wrote:
I don’t consider gays (in general) to be perverts.

It doesn’t really matter what you consider perverted when it comes down to the wire.

Now go look up Romans 1 and start rationalizing it away.[/quote]
So right, except Romans 1 has nothing to do with gays, and you should consider Jesus’ one commandment.

This passage is directly extracted from the Septuagint and translated from ancient Greek into modern English by Sir Lancelot C.L. Brenton in 1851. I’ve also included the phrase in question according to the pronunciation as read aloud in ancient Greek.

Leviticus
20:10
Whatever man shall commit adultery with the wife of a man, or whoever shall commit adultery with the wife of his neighbor, let them die the death, the adulterer and the adulteress.

20:11
And if anyone should lie with his father’s wife, he has uncovered his father’s nakedness; let them both die the death, they are guilty.

20:12
And if anyone should lie with his daughter-in-law, let them both be put to death; for they have wrought impiety, they are guilty.

20:13
And whoever shall lie with a male as with a woman, they have both wrought abomination; let them die the death, they are guilty.

20:14
Whosoever shall take a woman and her mother, it is iniquity: they shall burn him and them with fire; so there shall not be iniquity among you.

20:15
And whosoever shall lie with a beast, let him die the death; and ye shall kill the beast.

20:16
And whatever woman shall approach any beast, so as to have connection with it, ye shall kill the woman and the beast: let them die the death, they are guilty.

Leviticus 20:13
ancient Greek
Kai os av koimithi meta arsenos koitin ginaikas vtheligma epoiisan amfoteroi thanato thanatousthosan enoxoi eisin

In the context of Leviticus, absolutely NOTHING in this entire chapter correlates to the Baal fertility rituals, but someone tried to create a false association with this passage in question. Beware!

Leviticus 20:13 clearly warns against men sleeping with other men in a sexual manner. In that age, it was scandalous for a man to even lay in the same bed with a woman unless they were unified by the bond of marriage because it could be suspected they were engaging in improper conduct (partaking in sexual relations). Laying with a woman inferred sexual relations. Not only does God clearly forbid any such relations between persons of the same gender, but the Almighty even orders their execution so they shall not spread their filthy lifestyle.