Anyone want to tell me about the Bush family legacy or their blue blood root from the Percy Family of England?
It does not hurt that Barbara Pierce Bush’s grandfather was our 14th POTUS.
They were both born with silver spoons in the arses.
You and I can never be POTUS.
Zeb, what lesson are you preaching?
That idiots should not be underestimated? That idiots speak to the common person? That idiots are more likely to be elected?
Oh, you mean that people aren’t idiots simply because they gather votes? I don’t know if there is much correlation, not that I have any first hand knowledge of which presidents were or weren’t idiots.
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
Anyone want to tell me about the Bush family legacy or their blue blood root from the Percy Family of England?
It does not hurt that Barbara Pierce Bush’s grandfather was our 14th POTUS.
They were both born with silver spoons in the arses.
You and I can never be POTUS.[/quote]
This would then have eliminated Clinton, Reagan, Carter…
It doesn’t hurt, but it doesn’t eliminate the rest. Move on
Kerry was a top student at the Naval Candidate School, which seems to indicate that he had other interests in college that kept him from his studies.
Damn was Kerry ugly.
I think this report if anything proves that we have crappy choices for our leadership positions. You would think a country of 280 million could find better.
While we’re at it, lets compare they’re service records too. Since they got the same grades, one would assume they would have been on equal footing out of the gate.
Military Service Records of Pres. George W. Bush and Senator John F. Kerry
This just in:
Kerry allows Navy release of military, medical records
Show numerous commendations
June 7, 2005
"It turned out that the records included commendations from some of the same veterans who were criticizing him."
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Snoop wrote:
He could have scored exceptionally well on his GRE! In addition most grad schools look at your last 2 yrs as a sign of maturation and scholastic ability.
Are you kidding me…? Just to get my application looked at I had to provide my high school record, my military record, my letters of recomendation, a letter of intent…and a picture of my mom in a zebra outfit.
The GRE is not really needed for Law School–I beleive they usually only care about the LSAT–but please correct me if I’m wrong. The only thing the GRE proves is that you have a basic understanding of undergraduate material. Some programs have their own GRE. Most higher graduate studies programs (PhD, MD, etc) want to know how successful the applicant MIGHT be in the future–i.e. what he will bring to the program. Inorder to do this they must look at ones previous school records. Academic success is the most consistant means. [/quote]
For engineering schools, GRE scores are a much better predictor of grad school performance than undergrad grades. I have no idea if this applies to liberal arts.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
The big lie of the left has always been “republicans are stupid.”
They called Dwight D. Eisenhower stupid. Adlai Stevenson was the supposedly the more intellectual of the two.
At that time the liberals were so shocked that an “idiot” like Ike actually won the White House they re-nominated Stevenson again. This time Ike won an even more impressive victory gaining 57.5% of the vote and 457 electoral votes to only 73 for the very, very smart democrat. Note Ike is in blue in this map:
Ike the “idiot” carried all but 7 states!
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Ike was also very inciteful…
“Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”
and apparently a conspiracy theorist…
“In the counsels of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.”
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
ZEB wrote:
The big lie of the left has always been “republicans are stupid.”
They called Dwight D. Eisenhower stupid. Adlai Stevenson was the supposedly the more intellectual of the two.
At that time the liberals were so shocked that an “idiot” like Ike actually won the White House they re-nominated Stevenson again. This time Ike won an even more impressive victory gaining 57.5% of the vote and 457 electoral votes to only 73 for the very, very smart democrat. Note Ike is in blue in this map:
Ike the “idiot” carried all but 7 states!
Ike was also very inciteful…
“Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”
and apparently a conspiracy theorist…
“In the counsels of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.”
JTBS, you do know Bush’s social security proposal is voluntary and will not eliminate SS don’t you?
[quote]larryb wrote:
For engineering schools, GRE scores are a much better predictor of grad school performance than undergrad grades. I have no idea if this applies to liberal arts.[/quote]
I have no idea about Liberal Arts and I never took the GRE.
Ike is starting to sound pretty smart to me.
However, if alert and knowledgeable citizenry are required, then I’d say we are already fucked.
Between security and liberty, which one would you rather kiss goodbye?
Oh, wait a minute, maybe the general populace is more alert and knowledgeable than those of us around here? Is there yet hope?
[quote]vroom wrote:
Zeb, what lesson are you preaching?
That idiots should not be underestimated? That idiots speak to the common person? That idiots are more likely to be elected?
Oh, you mean that people aren’t idiots simply because they gather votes? I don’t know if there is much correlation, not that I have any first hand knowledge of which presidents were or weren’t idiots.[/quote]
This lesson: That liberals constantly underestimate their republican opponents! And that the republicans are in fact not stupid as the left claims that they are.
You have called Bush “stupid” on this forum. Did you do so without first hand information? Yes, I guess you must have.
I suppose that means there is no “popularity contest” sort of thing going on. I know that national elections dont necessarily liken themselves to say student government situations but in those settings its name recognition not qualification (not that you need to be qualified for student government).
Ike was a very popular war general; name recognition.
Reagan was a well known actor; name recognition.
Bush had a father that happened to be president; name recognition.
Do you honestly think that people don’t vote based solely on name recognition? I would guess a large portion of the popular vote is based on this quality alone.
[quote]sasquatch wrote:
Marmadogg wrote:
Anyone want to tell me about the Bush family legacy or their blue blood root from the Percy Family of England?
It does not hurt that Barbara Pierce Bush’s grandfather was our 14th POTUS.
They were both born with silver spoons in the arses.
You and I can never be POTUS.
This would then have eliminated Clinton, Reagan, Carter…
It doesn’t hurt, but it doesn’t eliminate the rest. Move on[/quote]
Carter was not a poor man. A humble, poor peanut farmer was a load of crap.
Reagan was supported by the very rich and traveled in their circles.
Clinton was supported by the very rich…ironically a member of the Harriman family got him into the race. If you do not understand the significance then how can you debate politics?
None of us will ever be POTUS.
Get over it.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
vroom wrote:
Zeb, what lesson are you preaching?
That idiots should not be underestimated? That idiots speak to the common person? That idiots are more likely to be elected?
Oh, you mean that people aren’t idiots simply because they gather votes? I don’t know if there is much correlation, not that I have any first hand knowledge of which presidents were or weren’t idiots.
This lesson: That liberals constantly underestimate their republican opponents! And that the republicans are in fact not stupid as the left claims that they are.
You have called Bush “stupid” on this forum. Did you do so without first hand information? Yes, I guess you must have.
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Democrats make the mistake of choosing thier candidates with their head more so than with their heart.
Hey soco,
Turn that statment around and imagine W. being the lazier of the two.
Imagine your commentary.
By the way, this is a hilarious revelation.
No damn wonder it took this long for your clown-like “leader” to pony up.
I knew he was shit for brains when he stood up with a straight face and said, “I’ve had one consistent position on Iraq.”
Or, depending on whether he was in the Pacific Northwest or Motown, changed if and how many SUV’s he owned. Remember that: My family owns SUV’s (Washington) I own 7,894,213,873 SUV’s (Motown).
JeffR
Oh. Boohooo. Boohoo, boohoo, boohoo. I know it broke your itty bitty heart, and poor Bush was devestated too. If it wasn’t for the cheerleaders around here, I’m sure he’d have been heartbroken.
Um, well, I have seen him on television quite a few times. The incontinent bastard has a way of interrupting good television with his bumbling declarations concern the Axes of Weasle or something.
There, plenty of ammo you can hold against me for the next century if you so wish.
More seriously, I think he is a “good guy” in that he jokes around and gives the finger to the camera and otherwise generally would probably be a lot of fun to hang out and party with.
Other than the so called off-camera moments and the on-camera moments, I don’t know how you suggest I’d otherwise form an impression of him.
Have you had the opportunity to stay at his ranch or something? How is it that you have this keen insight into his abilities that the rest of don’t have? Is it based on what little scant first hand knowledge I myself also have?
Otherwise, your dutiful propping up of Bush is exactly the same and as exactly as silly as the ongoing trouncing going on from the other direction. It’s the same damned thing you foolish man you.
Don’t you see, the democrats and republicans are bizarro replicas of each other, each claiming they are superior and laughing at the other. They are all bunch of clowns - and so are all their silly cheerleaders.
Go Jerffy!!! 8000 thousands more posts!!!
Yeah!!!
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
Democrats make the mistake of choosing thier candidates with their head more so than with their heart.
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Then they must not have been thinking too hard…
I am not much for either Bush or Kerry
(what can I say Im a college student)
,but I thought this was mildly amusing.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/gwbushdrunk.html
a good number of you have probably already seen this but with the original poster being overboard for bush I thought it would be fun to remind everyone.
How do college grades equate with intelligence? I’m sure there is some correlation between intelligence and grades but anyone who has been through any kind of school knows that you don’t need to be a genious to get an A.
The reason I think Bush comes as “stupid” is for several of the reasons already mentioned… He talks like a common guy at a bar, he rolls his sleeves up when he goes to speeches, he has mispronounced enough words and phrases to MAKE AN ENTIRE CALENDAR OF THEM!
Oh well… At least he isn’t a flipflopper… right?
More than anything, it reflects Kerry’s motives for keeping a lid on this information during the election season.
Kerry had one hand to play - that he was the astute, erudite brainiac that would be the antidote to a cowboy. He couldn’t possiblt float this info during Election 04.
And, turns out, America likes cowboys.
I think both Bush and Kerry are plenty smart - the grades just help deflate the nonsense surrounding the cheap, lazy arguments about Bush’s intelligence in lieu of legitimate claims. I think it is quite funny, only from the perspective that so many Bush critics relied on Bush’s lack of distinction as ammo in their complaints.