Just go for a drink/coffee a couple of times …small price to pay for banging hot 22 year olds.
If they demand more like expensive dinners or just keep playing games after this then you should want nothing more to do with them anyway.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
i don’t understand why having a kid makes a woman unfuckable.
Is this why I can’t get laid, because I have a kid?
It’s not like she’s going to hit you up for child support or want you to play daddy. IF she has a brain in her head she wouldn’t even let you meet the kid unless you developed a serious relationship.
Mom’s need cock too, it’s not like their vagina’s are ruined for the rest of their lives.
AND shockingly some of them ARE good people who were just careless when they were 19. And by good I mean like guys for guys and don’t give a flying rats ass how fat your wallet is. [/quote]
The problem is that for the most part women are lying when they say what you are saying (about money, not vagina). You might not be, how am I to know?
But that’s the problem, isn’t it? I’m only 25 and I’m pretty cynical based on interacting with women in a sexual way for just over 10 years. Imagine how bad it must get as guys get older?
I hear the same from women about men (liars, users) and always think how sad. I wonder what qualities the cynics select for that they encounter the same miserable thing over and over again. But maybe it’s not about selecting for poor qualities, because as I think about it I hear teachers condemn kids en masse, and what are the odds those teachers chose shitty students? So I guess I think maybe some people shouldn’t teach and some people shouldn’t date.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
i don’t understand why having a kid makes a woman unfuckable.
Is this why I can’t get laid, because I have a kid?
It’s not like she’s going to hit you up for child support or want you to play daddy. IF she has a brain in her head she wouldn’t even let you meet the kid unless you developed a serious relationship.
Mom’s need cock too, it’s not like their vagina’s are ruined for the rest of their lives.
AND shockingly some of them ARE good people who were just careless when they were 19. And by good I mean like guys for guys and don’t give a flying rats ass how fat your wallet is. [/quote]
The problem is that for the most part women are lying when they say what you are saying (about money, not vagina). You might not be, how am I to know?
But that’s the problem, isn’t it? I’m only 25 and I’m pretty cynical based on interacting with women in a sexual way for just over 10 years. Imagine how bad it must get as guys get older?[/quote]
Once you are over the hump, it gets better.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I hear the same from women about men (liars, users) and always think how sad. I wonder what qualities the cynics select for that they encounter the same miserable thing over and over again. But maybe it’s not about selecting for poor qualities, because as I think about it I hear teachers condemn kids en masse, and what are the odds those teachers chose shitty students? So I guess I think maybe some people shouldn’t teach and some people shouldn’t date.[/quote]
I think the main problem, the unforgivable sin, is that men are not close to the heros in romance novels and do not want to be and women are not close to the innocent wide wide eyed ersatz- mommies most men want them to be on some level.
However we all do live in societies that at least reward if not encourage the most base and vulgar female instincts while at the same time demonizing anything genuinely male.
If you have any kind of brains you see this and if you have any kind of balls you accept this.
Problem is, if you do not want to be steamrolled by some narcissistic, entitled bitch and her cohort of white knights and her minions on the court benches and in uniform you need a rather suspicious mindset and that requires a healthy dose of aggression.
Maybe you’re too picky? I remember in college I’d always go after sexy sorority girls so my batting average was horrible.
Life is short, maybe try for girls who might be a bit overweight, or a bit shy or a bit whatever.
At the end of the day, a hand is a hand, a mouth is a mouth, and a pussy is a pussy.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I hear the same from women about men (liars, users) and always think how sad. I wonder what qualities the cynics select for that they encounter the same miserable thing over and over again. But maybe it’s not about selecting for poor qualities, because as I think about it I hear teachers condemn kids en masse, and what are the odds those teachers chose shitty students? So I guess I think maybe some people shouldn’t teach and some people shouldn’t date.[/quote]
I think the main problem, the unforgivable sin, is that men are not close to the heros in romance novels and do not want to be and women are not close to the innocent wide wide eyed ersatz- mommies most men want them to be on some level.
However we all do live in societies that at least reward if not encourage the most base and vulgar female instincts while at the same time demonizing anything genuinely male.
If you have any kind of brains you see this and if you have any kind of balls you accept this.
Problem is, if you do not want to be steamrolled by some narcissistic, entitled bitch and her cohort of white knights and her minions on the court benches and in uniform you need a rather suspicious mindset and that requires a healthy dose of aggression.
[/quote]
Can’t say I disagree.
We live in societies that encourage base and vulgar behavior, period. Again, the qualities one selects for in potential mates to a large degree determines the result one achieves. I think men often prioritize qualities they believe confer high status, but the qualities represent a degree of shallowness. Manicures, expensively dyed and cut hair, implants, store-bought tans…these are the girls who really shine at the bars. Women do the same thing, of course. You want to date a guy with a hot sports car, don’t be surprised when having “hot” things he can brag about is his priority. You’re not going to be that hot thing post-pregnancy, when you’ve got a kid on your hip and puke in your hair. If that’s okay with you, good. Rock on. But if you wanted something different you should have selected for it in the first place.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
We live in societies that encourage base and vulgar behavior, period. Again, the qualities one selects for in potential mates to a large degree determines the result one achieves. I think men often prioritize qualities they believe confer high status, but the qualities represent a degree of shallowness. Manicures, expensively dyed and cut hair, implants, store-bought tans…these are the girls who really shine at the bars. Women do the same thing, of course. You want to date a guy with a hot sports car, don’t be surprised when having “hot” things he can brag about is his priority. You’re not going to be that hot thing post-pregnancy, when you’ve got a kid on your hip and puke in your hair. If that’s okay with you, good. Rock on. But if you wanted something different you should have selected for it in the first place.[/quote]
See, this is an example of trying to see men as women with penises.
We do NOT want hight status.
We want youth and beauty.
“Manicures, expensively dyed and cut hair, implants, store-bought tans” are not signs of high socio-economic status, they are pretend youth and beauty.
Not that it does not work mind you.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
We live in societies that encourage base and vulgar behavior, period. Again, the qualities one selects for in potential mates to a large degree determines the result one achieves. I think men often prioritize qualities they believe confer high status, but the qualities represent a degree of shallowness. Manicures, expensively dyed and cut hair, implants, store-bought tans…these are the girls who really shine at the bars. Women do the same thing, of course. You want to date a guy with a hot sports car, don’t be surprised when having “hot” things he can brag about is his priority. You’re not going to be that hot thing post-pregnancy, when you’ve got a kid on your hip and puke in your hair. If that’s okay with you, good. Rock on. But if you wanted something different you should have selected for it in the first place.[/quote]
Also, this whole encourages “base and vulgar behavior”.
Base and vulgar male behavior is not encouraged, in fact, any attempt of creating a functioning society is necessarily built on suppressing or channelimng male instincts.
When was the last time someone was applauded for raping or pillaging?
However, after decades of feminist indoctrination, there is a sizeable part of women who have no problem with “forgetting to take the pill”, ooops, or filing for divorce because she finally managed to turn her partner into an emasculated hamster, with all the consequences for her children, him and finally her that entails.
I would propose that if women want to have an equal say in how the world is run, they need to shoulder an equal part of the responsibility and that means suppressing or channeling female instincts.
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[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
i don’t understand why having a kid makes a woman unfuckable.
Is this why I can’t get laid, because I have a kid?
It’s not like she’s going to hit you up for child support or want you to play daddy. IF she has a brain in her head she wouldn’t even let you meet the kid unless you developed a serious relationship.
Mom’s need cock too, it’s not like their vagina’s are ruined for the rest of their lives.
AND shockingly some of them ARE good people who were just careless when they were 19. And by good I mean like guys for guys and don’t give a flying rats ass how fat your wallet is. [/quote]
The problem is that for the most part women are lying when they say what you are saying (about money, not vagina). You might not be, how am I to know?
But that’s the problem, isn’t it? I’m only 25 and I’m pretty cynical based on interacting with women in a sexual way for just over 10 years. Imagine how bad it must get as guys get older?[/quote]
But why would the liklihood of a woman being a money grubbing whore increase just because she has a kid? Like maybe the kid would be motivation for her to become an honest, hardworking individual? Maybe a mother would be less likely to be after your money, just a thought…
I know I try to be a better person so my kid doesn’t grow up thinking it’s okay to be a schmuck.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
i don’t understand why having a kid makes a woman unfuckable.
Is this why I can’t get laid, because I have a kid?
It’s not like she’s going to hit you up for child support or want you to play daddy. IF she has a brain in her head she wouldn’t even let you meet the kid unless you developed a serious relationship.
Mom’s need cock too, it’s not like their vagina’s are ruined for the rest of their lives.
AND shockingly some of them ARE good people who were just careless when they were 19. And by good I mean like guys for guys and don’t give a flying rats ass how fat your wallet is. [/quote]
I like you, Jen. ;-)[/quote]
Aww, thanks! I like you too 
[quote]bucephalus wrote:
Maybe you’re too picky? I remember in college I’d always go after sexy sorority girls so my batting average was horrible.
Life is short, maybe try for girls who might be a bit overweight, or a bit shy or a bit whatever.
At the end of the day, a hand is a hand, a mouth is a mouth, and a pussy is a pussy.[/quote]
Go after pretty girls?
I am not saying my encounters are like a dried river, I do get women but I want it without them demanding cash for pussy.
I actually avoid pretty girls because from my experience unless they are grounded (rare) and able to have a laugh at themselves and I mean a genuine laugh not a big cheesey smile because she fancies the size of my wallet or my ‘social status’, then I’d rather much go for those girls who I do fancy having sex with but are not superstars.
However that is way to shallow for my own tastes because I have had great sex with women who are bigger than normal.
Hell I’ve had 3 women who weigh just as much as me or a bit more.
Its not my ability to catch some decent fish it is merely my ability to say “ok I enjoyed this, can we do it again?”
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
i don’t understand why having a kid makes a woman unfuckable.
Is this why I can’t get laid, because I have a kid?
It’s not like she’s going to hit you up for child support or want you to play daddy. IF she has a brain in her head she wouldn’t even let you meet the kid unless you developed a serious relationship.
Mom’s need cock too, it’s not like their vagina’s are ruined for the rest of their lives.
AND shockingly some of them ARE good people who were just careless when they were 19. And by good I mean like guys for guys and don’t give a flying rats ass how fat your wallet is. [/quote]
The problem is that for the most part women are lying when they say what you are saying (about money, not vagina). You might not be, how am I to know?
But that’s the problem, isn’t it? I’m only 25 and I’m pretty cynical based on interacting with women in a sexual way for just over 10 years. Imagine how bad it must get as guys get older?[/quote]
But why would the liklihood of a woman being a money grubbing whore increase just because she has a kid? Like maybe the kid would be motivation for her to become an honest, hardworking individual? Maybe a mother would be less likely to be after your money, just a thought…
I know I try to be a better person so my kid doesn’t grow up thinking it’s okay to be a schmuck. [/quote]
It might work that way, but either way it is a form of retroactive cuckoldry.
Get the kid from the guy with the misspelled tattoo on his ass and then find a nice guy to raise ´em bad boy genes…
For the woman that means winning the genetic lottery, for the decent man willing to do that, not so much.
Also, people do not change.
Not really, unless they hit rock bottom.
Being bailed out by a provider type male is pretty much the opposite of hitting bottom.
That says nothing about you, I know neither you nor your circumstances but if 70-80% of the apples in the barrel are rotten, I suggest some men might be reluctant to grab one even if it looks good from the outside.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I am not saying my encounters are like a dried river, I do get women but I want it without them demanding cash for pussy.
[/quote]
Dont knock that, depending on how much money you make that can be the safer and cheaper alternative.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I am not saying my encounters are like a dried river, I do get women but I want it without them demanding cash for pussy.
[/quote]
Dont knock that, depending on how much money you make that can be the safer and cheaper alternative. [/quote]
Cheaper?
Dont you think the start of a relationship being a mere part-exchange is grounds for bad days ahead?
Its a red flag of mine when a woman starts demanding such things.