It’s like I said before; it’s not something I can wrap my brain around. I don’t consume things when I train. Never seems to limit me.
@kdjohn That is absolutely brag worthy! Great news for sure
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I’d love to take credit for it, but the original protocol as laid out by its creator, Borge Fagerli, is anywhere from 9-25+ reps for the initial set, and 3-5 reps on the subsequent mini sets. I usually shoot for 5’s for most exercises, but some, like pullups, I’ll use 3’s or 4’s.
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19/04/2021
Start time: 1220
Garage temp: 5C
Power clean & jerk
- 140x3
- 160x3
- 180x3
- 150x3
- 170x3
- 190x3
Front squat
- 170x5
- 195x5
- 220x5
45° hypers
- 3x8 @ 70 (weight BTN)
BTN press (myo-reps)
- 16+3+1 @ 100
Pullups (myo-reps)
- 11+3+3+2 @ BW
Sit-ups + Russian twists
- 1x25+25 @ 25
Notes:
- No issues on the main work. Smooth sailing.
- Need to lower the weight and slow down the BTN press. Should’ve been able to get more on the mini sets.
- That storm blew in over 6 inches of snow, so no running tonight. I’ll just use the bike for 25 minutes or so.
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That’s more snow that I’ve ever seen 
To engage, or not to engage, that is the question — with regards to a specific log on a specific subject that I’m very passionate about.
@T3hPwnisher, your thoughts?
So just a small one by your standards? As of now, my forecast is saying we’re getting about 0.15" of rain and 0.4" of snow tonight. It’ll all be done by sunrise tomorrow and leave us with 25+ mph wind and a high of 40F wind chill. What a useless storm.
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If its were I’m thinking, I’d ask the question: does that read like a post people are going to take seriously?
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Pretty much. Most of it will melt by the weekend anyways, as it’s supposed to get up to 14C this Thursday. Spring is a weird season.
You’re right. It reads like the experience of a disgruntled individual. It’s just one subject I immediately get irritated about, haha.
Bottom line, listen to Pwn and I on the subject.
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The fact that yourself, @T3hPwnisher, @carlbm and Jocko all agreed (more or less) on the subject was enough for me. Put that up against “it hurts and I suck at it” and its a pretty clear picture.
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It’s even simpler.
He found a bad school / class. You find them everywhere in all MA. Show me 10 boxing gyms and 5 will be full of run by an ex (semi) pro that likes beating up on new boys to make himself feel better. It doesn’t mean boxing is bad. Although I will add I suffered an almost total shoulder blow lot trying to defend a drop sayanagi.
I think @alex_uk is also savey enough to spot the but hurt.
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It ain’t nice to talk behind people’s back!
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In all seriousness, it’s a tad bit upsetting that you’ll make judgments without asking me why I feel the way I feel.
I specifically mentioned “hobbyists” for a reason. If you want to learn Judo for self defense and are serious about getting good at it then by all means go for it.
I love watching the sport. I just realized that I couldn’t progress in it in a meaningful fashion with the time I gave it and was attempting to be a bit humorous in giving reasons why I think it’s a poor choice for a martial arts hobby.
Given that you’ve mentioned a drop seoi nagi, I assume you’ve done Judo.
Out of curiosity-
How long have you done it?
Given what I wrote, how’d you determine that I found a bad school/class?
You’re right. It was a huge lapse of judgement on my part. I had hoped to avoid an internet squabble, but it appears I set course for the inevitable. I’m really sorry, my actions were wrong.
Now, as much as it may mitigate the above apology, I still disagree with your advice of choosing BJJ over judo. I would much rather have someone learn to take an opponent down and get up, instead of trying to keep things going on the ground. The amount of stuff to think about once you’re on the ground often overwhelms people too, and once you add in strikes, many people end up just turtling.
Now when we add boxing to the mix, you get a fantastic combo of strike to get in range, grapple, takedown, ground n’ pound, escape. I don’t want someone hanging out on the ground.
I’d still rather wrestling over judo, but if judo is all that’s offered, I’m gonna vouch for judo as a grappling base over BJJ.
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My unsolicited opinion
There is no best. Especially if it’s for kids. Depends on the facility and the people involved. Just find a good environment that’s enjoyable for them. Judo, BJJ, doesn’t really matter. Being the best possible fighter won’t be useful in life, at least it never has been for me. And they’re all going to put a major toll on your body if you want to become competitive.
But I like wrestling and boxing 
I admittedly missed this in my initial comments, but ULTIMATELY, as a coach and advocate for all martial arts, yes, pursue what you enjoy.
My point was that, in my experience, boxing and wrestling offer a great starting point for someone interested in eventually expanding their skills without getting overwhelmed at first.
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I don’t care if people disagree with me as long as they actually give reasons why they disagree, address the points I made, and talk with me in good faith.
I feel that none of you actually addressed what I wrote. I wrote specifically from my hobbyist PoV, and thus not strictly self-defense. I thought that mentioning “hobbyist” would be sufficient to get this across.
If you feel my perspective is inaccurate, then by all means let me know why! Let me know why doing Judo as a hobby is superior to doing BJJ as a hobby!
If you wanted to talk about martial art as serious self defense, then clarify. The conversation shifted back and forth between people who seemingly talked about it from a hobby perspective and those who spoke in a serious self defense perspective, so I thought it would be ok to give my perspective.
BTW- I agree with you. If you are looking for honest self defense training then you should go learn wrestling and boxing; definitely one where you’ll actually spar.
I further agree that, from an honest self defense PoV, Judo is superior to BJJ as long as you’ve trained it from a competitive standpoint for some point and have drilled the throw of your choice enough that it is second nature to you and you understand how to move the person for that particular throw.
I strongly disagree that Judo is better than BJJ in a hobbyist PoV because it takes A LOT of time, literally years of dedicated training, to learn how to move people (you and your oppponent) effectively. Certain throws and techniques seemingly require a near superhuman understanding of weight shifting and balance to pull off correctly. There’s a reason why people half-joke that you’ve finally ready to learn Judo once you’ve earned your shodan- because that’s when you start to really understand this concept and apply it broadly across techniques and your own movement.
This can get frustrating, especially when you really lack the time to commit to it. 1-2x a week is probably not going to be enough to learn this if you’re an adult beginner. I don’t know how it would go for a kid who comes 1-2x a week, but I’d imagine they’d also get bored if they never feel like they’re improving.
This kind of understanding isn’t necessarily required from a self defense PoV. You can always just drill a certain throw until you understand THAT throw. Plus, the Osotogari should be, in concept, a simple throw to apply in real life because it’s natural human instinct to want to shift their weight to the leg you’re pushing/pulling them towards.
But understanding a single throw is not sufficient to really say you know Judo. Plus it won’t get you closer to getting your next belt any time soon.
From what I’ve heard from people who cross-train BJJ and Judo, BJJ has a better sense of progression and knowledge gathering. I didn’t do enough BJJ to speak for this, but I do agree that there is a tangible sense of movement in the ground aspect of Judo (analogous to BJJ) simply because there’s obvious moves you should be taking to what your opponent does. You eventually learn this, thus allowing the “flow” that people talk about. In Judo you have no idea how that dude with a sandan threw you, you may not know how he threw you after being thrown for the 1000th time, and you’ll think that he’s a freaking boulder when you attempt to move him.
If you enjoy that as a hobby, then all the power to you; go have fun! I just realized that it wasn’t for me anymore when I was about to renew for the month with my Judo club. I was more interested at that point in weightlifting and decided to focus more of my time and energy on that.
FWIW- I did Judo on and off for a total of some 4-5 years. I started in college and picked it up again in my mid 20s. I’ve been away for about 4 years now and am finally starting to get the itch to head back. I feel this way ONLY because my work schedule is easier now.
And all that stuff about it hurting was meant to be humorous… but I don’t get people will get the humor until you get thrown on a barely padded floor and realize that, yes, Judo will probably work really well on concrete.
Edit- Realized while lifting that, in spite of writing all this, I didn’t actually concisely conclude why I feel BJJ>Judo for hobbyists.
Basically, Judo is a massive time sink with long periods of time where you feel you have no progress. This is strongly exacerbated if you only have time to train 1-2x a week, and you’ll likely eventually hit a wall where you simply need to invest more time to progress. At that point 1-2x a week is simply maintaining skill, not building it.
In comparison, there is a lot of stuff you can learn in BJJ. From what I understand (I never solely trained BJJ, so I am going off what I heard from my peers who cross-trained and what I read online), these may be niche stuff and not relevant to your actual basic skills, but they do contribute to the sense that there’s always something to learn.
Plus, there tends to be a larger variety of drilling positions and situational drills on the ground than the stand-up. This further helps the sense of constantly learning and progressing.
This ultimately means that you’ll likely continue BJJ longer than Judo as a hobbyist, especially if you don’t have a lot of time. You’re unlikely to stagnate as much in BJJ while training 1-2x a while, whereas it likely will in Judo.
Ultimately, this likely makes BJJ more enjoyable as a hobby than Judo. And the main thing that really matters in a hobby is that you enjoy it and can continue to do it.
… And this fucking thing isn’t concise either. I give up.
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You’re right, thats absolutely on me. I apologise for that, that was out of order.
@kdjohn thats my bad dude.
Dearie me lads
What have I walked into here
The witches coven 
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