Sorry but I feel you’ve missed the point slightly :\ I agree with you 10000%. You can be a chart “success” with zero talent - as charts are ALL to do with marketing. I never knew that that was an issue we were on…
anyways…Pop stars are slightly different though (as we’re discussing…) - therefore I regard them in a different light to any other genre of music lol… I mean, that (pop) is totally manufactured - Britney spears who can’t sing particularly well, yet she does sing and she’s famous for it. Thats all she “does”, is sing on a record. what about the people that do the hard work producing and making her sound acceptable lol.
To me though, they’re on a totally different level because most pop stars have Zero talent, yet do well due to other people. Therefore, I don’t even regard or count them in what I said - when I said to him , wheres your top 10 record, I meant it in a flippant way because well 1) hell never have a top 10 record, whatever he does. (probably lol) The fact that he may or may not have musical talent isn’t really part of the equation in this instance. However, based on the stupidity shown in the post, I doubt it. Also, as far as I remember (I may be wrong also) - he said “there is no genius in rap music or pop music period”, thereby classifying them together…
I replied to that post because he couldnt have possibly missed the boat any more than he did, and yes I agree largely with what you’ve said but yes, in a way he is right, because he said pop music - hang on - when was the discussion ever about pop music?! I thought it was about what Kanye said on national tv during an appeal for a disaster :\ lol. Kanye’s productions and pop music couldn’t possibly be further apart in my eyes.
But yes, most of the truely talented or even artists that make good tracks lol don’t shift many units. But when he thinks “rap music” he thinks whatever crap (or not crap) is out topping the charts at the moment. talent is irrelavent, he can’t tell the difference anyway?! lol. Even if he can tell the difference, it doesn’t matter, because he already has labelled it with the “crap” brush.
Yes I’m being pedantic but with what you said - I bet when she started “singing”, britney spears (for purposes of this discussion) had less than no idea what or how to give hte people what they want, she is merely the front “shop” of the marketing machine.
Frankly, marketing music is simply how you convert something that few peopel listen to, into something that a lot of people listen to. In pop music, you use different factors to rap or rock music, but marketing is still marketing. Agreed?
To be brutally honest, if you like all types of music, and think most mainstream music is garbage, then why do you listen to it?! YOU are making the problem worse by “agreeing” or “choosing” it. If you don’t like it, why listen to it. There are so many different kinds of types / styles/ artists in music that if you don’t like something, then you’re being stupid if you listen to it, especially if you have enough knowledge and an open enough mind to listen to all kinds and judge for yourself. And that goes for everyone else out there who is the same. (obviously I can understand if you hear the songs out or on radio and you have less control over it, I’m just trying to get the point across.) You wouldn’t listen to Classical FM if you had previously listened to a fair amount of classical music and decided you disliked it; so why do hte same with pop?!
Yes being successful does not equate to having talent - but if you are good, and become successful, then me for one would damn shure try and get as many peopel to try that music as possible. (If they have enough common sense to listen with an open mind and make a valid judgement.)