I just saw the Jay Leno video, and I really don’t know what to think. You see this side of Kanye, where you show remorse and regret, but it is just another publicity stunt? I get the feeling that this guy was told over and over, that he would not make it in the music business. That he would not be a success, and now that he has overwhelming success, he is making sure to let those who doubted him know. This is my own personal opinion of course.
Wow, if this is still going on, Kanye must really be a douche. I watched that Leno interview last night. It seemed like he was remorseful but didn’t really know why he should be. Said he knew he did something wrong when he saw her reaction after he left the stage. My friend said he was offering his drink he brought to the show to Michael Jackson’s father, too. Classy.
A lot of people here seem to think it takes talent to make it in the music industry. I laugh at that. I don’t want to say Kanye has none, cuz he does, he can make some nice beats (still mainly uses old songs to do so, but he still gets the job done). But a few people have brought up Soldier Boy. This guy is a prime example of why others like Nas would say that hip hop is dead. I’m sorry, but Soldier Boy simply has no talent in rapping. I’ve heard his shit. It’s pathetic. Now, his producer. Whoever makes his beats gets a thumbs up. And that is the main factor in his success right there. If you want to make it big as a rapper, put your piece of shit lyrics over the beat of a hit song and bingo. This is the type of music that is catered to people who don’t really listen and just want to mindlessly thump the song. That’s where all there sales come from. If your music caters to people who don’t really listen to your music, then I will always say you have no talent.
Lil’ Wayne is another one, he has like one good line in every verse I’ve heard him do (recently, the old ones were all garbage). Yet has the gall to say he’s the best rapper alive? and then other groups in an act of music industry politics (the real way you make it in the industry, by the way) back it up? Words can’t describe how retarded that is.
What a little bitch.
[quote]ComixGuy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That actually wasn’t the point. Whether he thought this out beforehand or not, the fact still stands that the RESULT of those actions is still going to be even more notoriety. That goes for him and Ms. Swift because I truly didn’t even know who the hell she was before this.
To Prof X:
Is it your conclusion that if something good happens from a bad action, then it partly absolves the person who did the bad action and the harm done is lessened? Because that is what you are seemingly saying. [/quote]
Why is this so hard to understand? He’s a fucking entertainer. So is Ms. Swift. They LIVE for publicity and you can GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE her manager is making the most of this situation by getting her name out there more. Was it a dick move? Yes. Does that mean a fucking thing in the grand scheme of things considering what these people do for a living? NO.
LOL at “bad action”. It was a lame ass award ceremony that hasn’t been worth watching in about ten years and he upstaged her. Big fucking deal. I sure won’t be losing sleep over this tonight.
Dude, if someone fucked with me I would be upset. If it in turn worked out for me, I would be fucking happy. If I were an entertainer, I would already be aware that controversy breeds celebrity.
One of the main reasons the world knows who Beyonce is happens to be due to all of the drama within the group Destiny’s Child when her father kicked out the other two girls. If that had not happened, I doubt she would be where she is today because she would not have stood out as much.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a toy of the entertainment industry.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
Yeah, but hip hop is still pretty young compared to rock, and at this point an artist like Kanye West who has been so large a presence in the genre is bound to have a big influence on the future. I totally agree on the Coldplay thing, but part of that has to do with the stage rock is in now. Rock has exhausted a lot of it’s areas for innovation, that’s why the retro movement was big in rock for a while. Hip hop’s got a long time before superstars have no influence/relevence in the genre.
And as for Hanoi rocks, I haven’t really listened to their stuff but supposedly they were pretty influential themselves. i might have to check out their stuff, thanks for the reference.
Hip hop has been around what, 40 years? I would say that is plenty long enough to evolve, certainly longer than Indie Rock. (god I hate categorising music)
No it’s not long enough. And I don’t know if hip hop’s been around as a fully formed genre for 40 years anyway. If you want to count it very earliest stages, then rocks in it’s 60s or 70s by now, and that’s a BIG difference. Indie Rock is a type of Rock, and COLDPLAY ARE NOT INDIE ROCK. I’ve noticed that sometimes the Brits throw that term around loosely, but Coldplay aren’t indie and I’m sure that’s known there too.
You don’t like categorizing music? Then you shouldn’t have brought up Kanye being “relevant in his genre” and not otherwise. You brought up genres, and if you didn’t like categorizing music you would’ve assumed if that if he’s popular he’s relevant and will be in the future. He isn’t a one hit wonder, he’s been behind big hits (not just for himself but for others, and not just big songs for hip hop fans, but casual fans) for almost the entire decade.
And for the record, his influence is already being seen and has been for a few years and it’s good and bad. Rappers don’t have to have a shred of “street cred” these day, which is a far cry from just a year before Kanye hit the scene. I think that’s a good thing, rappers not having to partake in macho posturing and and being insensitive if it’s not them. It hasn’t really been like that since the early 90s, and a lot of that has to do with Kanye. At the same time, I think his lyrics finally crossed the line into whiny bitch territory on his most recent (but still great) album, 808s & Heartbreak, and unfortunately it’s success may have opened the floodgates. [/quote]
When I said categorise I was meaning exactly the point you just made. Coldplay, Indie Rock, Rock, Alternative, AOR whatever you want to call them, it is guitar music. Within Hip-Hop their are loads of sub categories, but it is all hip-hop at the end of the day.
Maybe I have missed the impact of Kanye because I am A) older than his average fanbase and B) not living in the US.
He seems like a dick from some of the stunts he has pulled and I am not a fan of his music, but at the end of the day, I don’t really care that much so see no need to carry on arguing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
ComixGuy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That actually wasn’t the point. Whether he thought this out beforehand or not, the fact still stands that the RESULT of those actions is still going to be even more notoriety. That goes for him and Ms. Swift because I truly didn’t even know who the hell she was before this.
To Prof X:
Is it your conclusion that if something good happens from a bad action, then it partly absolves the person who did the bad action and the harm done is lessened? Because that is what you are seemingly saying.
Why is this so hard to understand? He’s a fucking entertainer. So is Ms. Swift. They LIVE for publicity and you can GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE her manager is making the most of this situation by getting her name out there more. Was it a dick move? Yes. Does that mean a fucking thing in the grand scheme of things considering what these people do for a living? NO.
LOL at “bad action”. It was a lame ass award ceremony that hasn’t been worth watching in about ten years and he upstaged her. Big fucking deal. I sure won’t be losing sleep over this tonight.
Say you decided to compete in a show and you were awarded 1st place by the judges. If someone well-known from the industry jumped on stage just as you were taking your place on the top stool and said to the crowd, that really so-and-so and not you should have won. How would you have felt at the time towards the industry person?
Would it have made you feel any better if you got product endorsements from the the notoriety of it? Would that have changed your mind about the industry person?
For the record, I don’t like either performer’s work.
Dude, if someone fucked with me I would be upset. If it in turn worked out for me, I would be fucking happy. If I were an entertainer, I would already be aware that controversy breeds celebrity.
One of the main reasons the world knows who Beyonce is happens to be due to all of the drama within the group Destiny’s Child when her father kicked out the other two girls. If that had not happened, I doubt she would be where she is today because she would not have stood out as much.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a toy of the entertainment industry.
[/quote]
OH. MY. GOD. He did not “upstage” her. Upstaging somebody is when you do something they do better than them. Vince Carter upstaged Tracy McGrady at the 2000 dunk contest. Kanye West took a young girls moment that had nothing to do with him and used it to force himself in the spotlight yet again under a fake cause. And it backfired horribly. He obviously didn’t think it would have done what it did, and now he feels bad for himself ‘cause people are starting to realize what a fuckin’ cocksucker he truly is. Point blank. End of story. Also, I’m from Houston and had no idea Knowles father kicked the others outta the group, and even if most people do that has little if anything to do with her celebrity. She was the face of one of pops biggest groups and was already doing Revlon and Pepsi [or Coke] commercials . The “Face” always moves on. Sting did it with the police, Justin Timberlake did it with N’SNYC and Knowles did it with Destinys child. That’s just the natural progression of things. Entertainers call it “outgrowing” or “branching out”, but it’s really about “making more money”.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ComixGuy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That actually wasn’t the point. Whether he thought this out beforehand or not, the fact still stands that the RESULT of those actions is still going to be even more notoriety. That goes for him and Ms. Swift because I truly didn’t even know who the hell she was before this.
To Prof X:
Is it your conclusion that if something good happens from a bad action, then it partly absolves the person who did the bad action and the harm done is lessened? Because that is what you are seemingly saying.
Why is this so hard to understand? He’s a fucking entertainer. So is Ms. Swift. They LIVE for publicity and you can GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE her manager is making the most of this situation by getting her name out there more. Was it a dick move? Yes. Does that mean a fucking thing in the grand scheme of things considering what these people do for a living? NO.
LOL at “bad action”. It was a lame ass award ceremony that hasn’t been worth watching in about ten years and he upstaged her. Big fucking deal. I sure won’t be losing sleep over this tonight.
Say you decided to compete in a show and you were awarded 1st place by the judges. If someone well-known from the industry jumped on stage just as you were taking your place on the top stool and said to the crowd, that really so-and-so and not you should have won. How would you have felt at the time towards the industry person?
Would it have made you feel any better if you got product endorsements from the the notoriety of it? Would that have changed your mind about the industry person?
For the record, I don’t like either performer’s work.
Dude, if someone fucked with me I would be upset. If it in turn worked out for me, I would be fucking happy. If I were an entertainer, I would already be aware that controversy breeds celebrity.
One of the main reasons the world knows who Beyonce is happens to be due to all of the drama within the group Destiny’s Child when her father kicked out the other two girls. If that had not happened, I doubt she would be where she is today because she would not have stood out as much.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a toy of the entertainment industry.
OH. MY. GOD. He did not “upstage” her. Upstaging somebody is when you do something they do better than them. Vince Carter upstaged Tracy McGrady at the 2000 dunk contest. Kanye West took a young girls moment that had nothing to do with him and used it to force himself in the spotlight yet again under a fake cause. And it backfired horribly. He obviously didn’t think it would have done what it did, and now he feels bad for himself ‘cause people are starting to realize what a fuckin’ cocksucker he truly is. Point blank. End of story. Also, I’m from Houston and had no idea Knowles father kicked the others outta the group, and even if most people do that has little if anything to do with her celebrity. She was the face of one of pops biggest groups and was already doing Revlon and Pepsi [or Coke] commercials . The “Face” always moves on. Sting did it with the police, Justin Timberlake did it with N’SNYC and Knowles did it with Destinys child. That’s just the natural progression of things. Entertainers call it “outgrowing” or “branching out”, but it’s really about “making more money”.[/quote]
You remind me of the white kanye west.
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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ComixGuy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That actually wasn’t the point. Whether he thought this out beforehand or not, the fact still stands that the RESULT of those actions is still going to be even more notoriety. That goes for him and Ms. Swift because I truly didn’t even know who the hell she was before this.
To Prof X:
Is it your conclusion that if something good happens from a bad action, then it partly absolves the person who did the bad action and the harm done is lessened? Because that is what you are seemingly saying.
Why is this so hard to understand? He’s a fucking entertainer. So is Ms. Swift. They LIVE for publicity and you can GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE her manager is making the most of this situation by getting her name out there more. Was it a dick move? Yes. Does that mean a fucking thing in the grand scheme of things considering what these people do for a living? NO.
LOL at “bad action”. It was a lame ass award ceremony that hasn’t been worth watching in about ten years and he upstaged her. Big fucking deal. I sure won’t be losing sleep over this tonight.
Say you decided to compete in a show and you were awarded 1st place by the judges. If someone well-known from the industry jumped on stage just as you were taking your place on the top stool and said to the crowd, that really so-and-so and not you should have won. How would you have felt at the time towards the industry person?
Would it have made you feel any better if you got product endorsements from the the notoriety of it? Would that have changed your mind about the industry person?
For the record, I don’t like either performer’s work.
Dude, if someone fucked with me I would be upset. If it in turn worked out for me, I would be fucking happy. If I were an entertainer, I would already be aware that controversy breeds celebrity.
One of the main reasons the world knows who Beyonce is happens to be due to all of the drama within the group Destiny’s Child when her father kicked out the other two girls. If that had not happened, I doubt she would be where she is today because she would not have stood out as much.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a toy of the entertainment industry.
OH. MY. GOD. He did not “upstage” her. Upstaging somebody is when you do something they do better than them. Vince Carter upstaged Tracy McGrady at the 2000 dunk contest. Kanye West took a young girls moment that had nothing to do with him and used it to force himself in the spotlight yet again under a fake cause. And it backfired horribly. He obviously didn’t think it would have done what it did, and now he feels bad for himself ‘cause people are starting to realize what a fuckin’ cocksucker he truly is. Point blank. End of story. Also, I’m from Houston and had no idea Knowles father kicked the others outta the group, and even if most people do that has little if anything to do with her celebrity. She was the face of one of pops biggest groups and was already doing Revlon and Pepsi [or Coke] commercials . The “Face” always moves on. Sting did it with the police, Justin Timberlake did it with N’SNYC and Knowles did it with Destinys child. That’s just the natural progression of things. Entertainers call it “outgrowing” or “branching out”, but it’s really about “making more money”.[/quote]
Dude, if you lived in Houston and didn’t know that her father kicked the others out the group, that is because you either didn’t follow the music or didn’t pay attention. That was quite a bit of controversy with those two girls threatening to sue, later trying to start their own group and failing miserably at it. They then had try out for replacements, hired two new girls and then kicked them out too.
All of that drama pushed Beyonce to the front of headlines getting her name out there. before that, they were simply known as a group, not by individual names.
The fact that you didn’t know this makes me wonder why you are arguing.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
lildave wrote:
Kanye on Jay Leno show.
What was that? He never even mentioned the girl by name and driveled into something about touring too much and his hurt making someone else hurt? What the fuck is his hurt? That Beyonce didn’t get an award?
It’s obvious the dude feels bad, but not because he recognizes what he did was wrong, but because he knows his image took a hit, like a kid who fucks up and apologizes because he doesn’t like his mom taking away his dessert. Clown.
I think he is trying to save a little face, maybe minimize the damage. He knows this would upset people, but maybe he didn’t expect it to bother people THIS much. [/quote]
Abso-fucking-lutely.
Kanye, I like some of your music–but, dude, you’re a dick.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
ComixGuy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That actually wasn’t the point. Whether he thought this out beforehand or not, the fact still stands that the RESULT of those actions is still going to be even more notoriety. That goes for him and Ms. Swift because I truly didn’t even know who the hell she was before this.
To Prof X:
Is it your conclusion that if something good happens from a bad action, then it partly absolves the person who did the bad action and the harm done is lessened? Because that is what you are seemingly saying.
Why is this so hard to understand? He’s a fucking entertainer. So is Ms. Swift. They LIVE for publicity and you can GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE her manager is making the most of this situation by getting her name out there more. Was it a dick move? Yes. Does that mean a fucking thing in the grand scheme of things considering what these people do for a living? NO.
LOL at “bad action”. It was a lame ass award ceremony that hasn’t been worth watching in about ten years and he upstaged her. Big fucking deal. I sure won’t be losing sleep over this tonight.
Say you decided to compete in a show and you were awarded 1st place by the judges. If someone well-known from the industry jumped on stage just as you were taking your place on the top stool and said to the crowd, that really so-and-so and not you should have won. How would you have felt at the time towards the industry person?
Would it have made you feel any better if you got product endorsements from the the notoriety of it? Would that have changed your mind about the industry person?
For the record, I don’t like either performer’s work.
Dude, if someone fucked with me I would be upset. If it in turn worked out for me, I would be fucking happy. If I were an entertainer, I would already be aware that controversy breeds celebrity.
One of the main reasons the world knows who Beyonce is happens to be due to all of the drama within the group Destiny’s Child when her father kicked out the other two girls. If that had not happened, I doubt she would be where she is today because she would not have stood out as much.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a toy of the entertainment industry.
[/quote]
TRUE.
When it comes to business and money the successful ones usually have short memory. I might be mad when I’m on stage but I would be happy as hell on Monday when everybody wants to hear my music, and ready to do a song with Kanye 5 months later when everybody forgets my name again.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
There’s no bad publicity except an obituary - Brendan Behan[/quote]
I think this is the most stupid statement I can think of. Of course there is bad publicity.
Look at Michael Jackson and the pedophile shit. Lets see how he can turn that into records sells.
Also, after the 1993 case he dropped the fuck off the planet. He was coming off of Bad and Dangerous album… had best-selling album of all time. Then in 1993 he dropped off the fucking map. The King of Pop, wasn’t really heard of until he dangled his kid out of a window.
So if you could, please tell me how to spin Pedophile into a marketing scheme making him more successful
[quote]Professor X wrote:
ComixGuy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
One of the main reasons the world knows who Beyonce is happens to be due to all of the drama within the group Destiny’s Child when her father kicked out the other two girls. If that had not happened, I doubt she would be where she is today because she would not have stood out as much.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a toy of the entertainment industry.
[/quote]
{clap, clap, clap} thank you. Another prime example right there of industry politics. And X is right, it was publicity, the incident got both of them in the news. As a result, Kanye was one of Jay’s first guests on his new show, regardless. Anyone who watches wrestling even knows that acting like a douche is one way to even gain popularity (the Rock is a good example, everyone’s dislike for him was what made him popular, originally, now he’s a fuckin movie star).
Oh, and fightinirish, even though you’re quoting someone else, in the hip hop world, many would argue that the obituary is the best publicity. There’s even been songs written about that
edit: and even though Beyonce is gorgeous and can sing and dance her ass off (and act) there’s still thousands upon thousands of girls who can do all that even better and look better at the same time that noone even knows about. It’s the industry. People who make it know the right things to focus on, has nothing to do with who is more talented (with some exceptions)
People are not always all good or all bad. Kanye’s obviuosly a dick but in all honesty I think even he knows he’s a dick, he has a huge ego and a short temper. I believe his apology. Now if he said he honestly thinks taylor swifts video is better than I would call him a liar.
[quote]ALKoHoLiK wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
There’s no bad publicity except an obituary - Brendan Behan
I think this is the most stupid statement I can think of. Of course there is bad publicity.
Look at Michael Jackson and the pedophile shit. Lets see how he can turn that into records sells.
Also, after the 1993 case he dropped the fuck off the planet. He was coming off of Bad and Dangerous album… had best-selling album of all time. Then in 1993 he dropped off the fucking map. The King of Pop, wasn’t really heard of until he dangled his kid out of a window.
So if you could, please tell me how to spin Pedophile into a marketing scheme making him more successful [/quote]
Please. Pedophilia, murder and rape may be the only exceptions. I hope you aren’t arguing that being a douche is the same as being accused of pedophilia.
Being a fucking drunk hasn’t hurt Morton Downy Jr. either.
[quote]ALKoHoLiK wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
There’s no bad publicity except an obituary - Brendan Behan
I think this is the most stupid statement I can think of. Of course there is bad publicity.
Look at Michael Jackson and the pedophile shit. Lets see how he can turn that into records sells.
Also, after the 1993 case he dropped the fuck off the planet. He was coming off of Bad and Dangerous album… had best-selling album of all time. Then in 1993 he dropped off the fucking map. The King of Pop, wasn’t really heard of until he dangled his kid out of a window.
So if you could, please tell me how to spin Pedophile into a marketing scheme making him more successful [/quote]
Is that the same bad publicity he got after he did most of his albums he was falling out of the public eye then all of a sudden for6 months his fans rallied behind him for no reason other than he had a case? no album tv show or movie. Sounds like pretty good publicity to me.
[quote]ALKoHoLiK wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
There’s no bad publicity except an obituary - Brendan Behan
I think this is the most stupid statement I can think of. Of course there is bad publicity.
Look at Michael Jackson and the pedophile shit. Lets see how he can turn that into records sells.
Also, after the 1993 case he dropped the fuck off the planet. He was coming off of Bad and Dangerous album… had best-selling album of all time. Then in 1993 he dropped off the fucking map. The King of Pop, wasn’t really heard of until he dangled his kid out of a window.
So if you could, please tell me how to spin Pedophile into a marketing scheme making him more successful [/quote]
You can’t compare things like Murder, Rape,and Pedophilia. These three crimes aren’t something you would commit on camera or in the public for people to see.
Sex Tape- You record it, it gets leaked, and your name becomes known.(Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, Pamela Anderson)
Public Outbursts- You do something brash or stupid for people to see, you gain attention, your name is mentioned multiple times for months, and then you have an interview with Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer where you discuss what you did and why you did, you publicly apologize, and then America fucking forgives you.
Talk shit about another celebrity- Rappers talk shit about one and then make albums or two celebrities talk shit about one another(Lohan, Hilton). One makes fun of the other, the media report it and then discuss who started it, why it happened, and who’s side they would be on, and this media coverage continues for as long as possible.
When you rape, murder, or hurt kids, your career is screwed.
OJ Simpson- Screwed even though he was proven innocent.
Michael Jackson- Screwed, but the man was so fucking popular that he is the exception to the rule. People still rep Michael Jackson. And one of the kids who accused him in 1993 came out and said that he lied!
I can’t think of anyone else at the moment.
I’m gonna tell your mother still works.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
Yeah, but hip hop is still pretty young compared to rock, and at this point an artist like Kanye West who has been so large a presence in the genre is bound to have a big influence on the future. I totally agree on the Coldplay thing, but part of that has to do with the stage rock is in now. Rock has exhausted a lot of it’s areas for innovation, that’s why the retro movement was big in rock for a while. Hip hop’s got a long time before superstars have no influence/relevence in the genre.
And as for Hanoi rocks, I haven’t really listened to their stuff but supposedly they were pretty influential themselves. i might have to check out their stuff, thanks for the reference.
Hip hop has been around what, 40 years? I would say that is plenty long enough to evolve, certainly longer than Indie Rock. (god I hate categorising music)
No it’s not long enough. And I don’t know if hip hop’s been around as a fully formed genre for 40 years anyway. If you want to count it very earliest stages, then rocks in it’s 60s or 70s by now, and that’s a BIG difference. Indie Rock is a type of Rock, and COLDPLAY ARE NOT INDIE ROCK. I’ve noticed that sometimes the Brits throw that term around loosely, but Coldplay aren’t indie and I’m sure that’s known there too.
You don’t like categorizing music? Then you shouldn’t have brought up Kanye being “relevant in his genre” and not otherwise. You brought up genres, and if you didn’t like categorizing music you would’ve assumed if that if he’s popular he’s relevant and will be in the future. He isn’t a one hit wonder, he’s been behind big hits (not just for himself but for others, and not just big songs for hip hop fans, but casual fans) for almost the entire decade.
And for the record, his influence is already being seen and has been for a few years and it’s good and bad. Rappers don’t have to have a shred of “street cred” these day, which is a far cry from just a year before Kanye hit the scene. I think that’s a good thing, rappers not having to partake in macho posturing and and being insensitive if it’s not them. It hasn’t really been like that since the early 90s, and a lot of that has to do with Kanye. At the same time, I think his lyrics finally crossed the line into whiny bitch territory on his most recent (but still great) album, 808s & Heartbreak, and unfortunately it’s success may have opened the floodgates.
When I said categorise I was meaning exactly the point you just made. Coldplay, Indie Rock, Rock, Alternative, AOR whatever you want to call them, it is guitar music. Within Hip-Hop their are loads of sub categories, but it is all hip-hop at the end of the day.
Maybe I have missed the impact of Kanye because I am A) older than his average fanbase and B) not living in the US.
He seems like a dick from some of the stunts he has pulled and I am not a fan of his music, but at the end of the day, I don’t really care that much so see no need to carry on arguing. [/quote]
Well again you mentioned indie rock to start with not me, but as for the rest of your post I completely agree :).
[quote]Professor X wrote:
ALKoHoLiK wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
There’s no bad publicity except an obituary - Brendan Behan
I think this is the most stupid statement I can think of. Of course there is bad publicity.
Look at Michael Jackson and the pedophile shit. Lets see how he can turn that into records sells.
Also, after the 1993 case he dropped the fuck off the planet. He was coming off of Bad and Dangerous album… had best-selling album of all time. Then in 1993 he dropped off the fucking map. The King of Pop, wasn’t really heard of until he dangled his kid out of a window.
So if you could, please tell me how to spin Pedophile into a marketing scheme making him more successful
Please. Pedophilia, murder and rape may be the only exceptions. I hope you aren’t arguing that being a douche is the same as being accused of pedophilia.
Being a fucking drunk hasn’t hurt Morton Downy Jr. either.[/quote]
I think you mean Robert Downy Jr. Morton Downy is the douchebag talk show host.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope you aren’t arguing that being a douche is the same as being accused of pedophilia.[/quote]
Did you read what and who I quoted? He made a general statement about All publicity being good except being in the obituary. Not once did I comment on Kayne being a douche or even try to parallel those two.
In my book, Kayne apologized like a man (whether he meant it or not) and it should be done and over with. I have no problem with Kayne being an ass and I agree 100% with you on I’m glad he is an ass private and public, at least he is honest