[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
I have nothing nice to say about the bum! Ohh and i hear that his music, if you can call it that, is nothing but crap![/quote]
LOL…much like the opinion of someone who bases their opinion only on what others think through no personal experience of their own.
In fact, I think that makes you worse.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Heracles_rocks wrote:
I have nothing nice to say about the bum! Ohh and i hear that his music, if you can call it that, is nothing but crap!
LOL…much like the opinion of someone who bases their opinion only on what others think through no personal experience of their own.
In fact, I think that makes you worse.[/quote]
I can see your point, but i watched the video of what he did, and i have also tried to listen to his music and i have yet to find something that i like. Any suggestions of his songs, that you would recommend, i do like to keep an open mind?
Professor X… can you take a look at your Inbox
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Heracles_rocks wrote:
I have nothing nice to say about the bum! Ohh and i hear that his music, if you can call it that, is nothing but crap!
LOL…much like the opinion of someone who bases their opinion only on what others think through no personal experience of their own.
In fact, I think that makes you worse.
I can see your point, but i watched the video of what he did, and i have also tried to listen to his music and i have yet to find something that i like. Any suggestions of his songs, that you would recommend, i do like to keep an open mind?[/quote]
Taste is individual. I like much of his music. I do not like all of his lyrics because I can tell when he is stretching for a word that matches what he rapped in the previous verse. However, like everyone has said many times by now, anyone who truly believes he has no talent as far as PRODUCING has their head up their ass and/or probably doesn’t listen to (or can’t relate to) the music.
I don’t listen to much of anything on the radio. It seems to get worse and worse every year and it isn’t because of age either.
However, one thing I can tell you is that all of the music I listen to…is because I alone love it. I could care less if my friends like it (unless I am looking for music to play while at their house). I damn sure wouldn’t be such a follower as to take someone else’s word for it with no investigation of my own.
Was Kanye a dick at the award ceremony?
Yep.
Will this destroy his career?
Hell fuck no.
This is the entertainment industry…and as far as I can tell, the several pages of this thread show you all have been… entertained.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Do you white guys actually listen to Rap/Hip Hop or do you just say you do so you can look cool?
What do you mean “you white guys?” Huh? What’s that supposed to mean sir?
I must confess I haven’t heard his 3rd album yet (the one that 50 said if it sold more copies he’d retire then didn’t, right?) But I have his first 2 and I was pretty dissapointed with both of them, to be honest. It seems he does his best shit on other people’s albums, just like Timbaland (I also have a few of his albums and was also dissapointed, a lot)
When I say “you white guys”, I mean you white male members of T-Nation who are posting in this thread who listen to Hip Hop/Rap.
Do you guys actually listen to Rap music? Do you actually take the time to digest the lyrics and understand what people are saying? Or do you just like rap because its the cool thing to do?
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I am white and I do ACTUALLY listen to rap music because I love the beats, the attitude and listening to tracks and hearing lyrics that I may have missed before as well as hearing peoples stories and how they can link in with each other. Yeh there seems to be a lot of people who listen to Hip Hop/Rap for the wrong reasons but don’t think thats an entire race.
I like Kanye’s music in general, but I could not find that many of his music videos that contained enough eye candy on I-tunes. I downloaded Gold Digger, but would like to download more - as long as some eye candy is involved. I downloaded all 10 Taylor Swift music videos because she IS eye candy even if I did not like all the songs. The shit I have to go through doing hours of cardio on the treadmill…
I first was told about Kanye when my brother told me about Jay Z’s Blueprint. I was like damnnnnnnnnnnn
[quote]Getting Closer wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Do you white guys actually listen to Rap/Hip Hop or do you just say you do so you can look cool?
What do you mean “you white guys?” Huh? What’s that supposed to mean sir?
I must confess I haven’t heard his 3rd album yet (the one that 50 said if it sold more copies he’d retire then didn’t, right?) But I have his first 2 and I was pretty dissapointed with both of them, to be honest. It seems he does his best shit on other people’s albums, just like Timbaland (I also have a few of his albums and was also dissapointed, a lot)
When I say “you white guys”, I mean you white male members of T-Nation who are posting in this thread who listen to Hip Hop/Rap.
Do you guys actually listen to Rap music? Do you actually take the time to digest the lyrics and understand what people are saying? Or do you just like rap because its the cool thing to do?
I am white and I do ACTUALLY listen to rap music because I love the beats, the attitude and listening to tracks and hearing lyrics that I may have missed before as well as hearing peoples stories and how they can link in with each other. Yeh there seems to be a lot of people who listen to Hip Hop/Rap for the wrong reasons but don’t think thats an entire race.[/quote]
All I’m doing is making a opinion on your race based on the few white people I’ve seen who listen to rap music and claim to be knowledgeable about it.
And thank you for the reply.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Getting Closer wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Do you white guys actually listen to Rap/Hip Hop or do you just say you do so you can look cool?
What do you mean “you white guys?” Huh? What’s that supposed to mean sir?
I must confess I haven’t heard his 3rd album yet (the one that 50 said if it sold more copies he’d retire then didn’t, right?) But I have his first 2 and I was pretty dissapointed with both of them, to be honest. It seems he does his best shit on other people’s albums, just like Timbaland (I also have a few of his albums and was also dissapointed, a lot)
When I say “you white guys”, I mean you white male members of T-Nation who are posting in this thread who listen to Hip Hop/Rap.
Do you guys actually listen to Rap music? Do you actually take the time to digest the lyrics and understand what people are saying? Or do you just like rap because its the cool thing to do?
I am white and I do ACTUALLY listen to rap music because I love the beats, the attitude and listening to tracks and hearing lyrics that I may have missed before as well as hearing peoples stories and how they can link in with each other. Yeh there seems to be a lot of people who listen to Hip Hop/Rap for the wrong reasons but don’t think thats an entire race.
All I’m doing is making a opinion on your race based on the few white people I’ve seen who listen to rap music and claim to be knowledgeable about it.
And thank you for the reply.[/quote]
LOL
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
I like Kanye’s music in general, but I could not find that many of his music videos that contained enough eye candy on I-tunes. I downloaded Gold Digger, but would like to download more - as long as some eye candy is involved. I downloaded all 10 Taylor Swift music videos because she IS eye candy even if I did not like all the songs. The shit I have to go through doing hours of cardio on the treadmill…
I first was told about Kanye when my brother told me about Jay Z’s Blueprint. I was like damnnnnnnnnnnn
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I really don’t see what the attraction is with Taylor Swift, her body has no shape and her face is ugly as a rats ass
I personally think Kanya is a classless peace of shit, and if I were at a position of celebrity I would lobby to have him banned from award shows. Security should have fucking tasered his ass. Do you think its a coincidence he walked up and pulled the mic out of a little girls hand? I wish he had fucking done it to Robert Plant and Allison Crouse. Hell, the fucking backstreet boys probably would have beat his ass for that. His music is highly over rated anyhow. Granted, there’s allot worse things out there, but compared to things like Jedi Mind Tricks he’s just not impressive.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
She’s a terrible singer.
Also, why do you guys care, she’s not going to fuck you.[/quote]
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
All I’m doing is making a opinion on your race based on the few white people I’ve seen who listen to rap music and claim to be knowledgeable about it.
And thank you for the reply.[/quote]
And Wol slips in with the middle finger!
Well played good sir, well played.
[quote]Getting Closer wrote:
hawaiilifterMike wrote:
I like Kanye’s music in general, but I could not find that many of his music videos that contained enough eye candy on I-tunes. I downloaded Gold Digger, but would like to download more - as long as some eye candy is involved. I downloaded all 10 Taylor Swift music videos because she IS eye candy even if I did not like all the songs. The shit I have to go through doing hours of cardio on the treadmill…
I first was told about Kanye when my brother told me about Jay Z’s Blueprint. I was like damnnnnnnnnnnn
I really don’t see what the attraction is with Taylor Swift, her body has no shape and her face is ugly as a rats ass[/quote]
There’s a craze in America that’s sweeping the nation. People love skinny, boobless, teenage girls who are slaves for Disney or make their our pop country music.
Pedo-mania is running wild.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
All I’m doing is making a opinion on your race based on the few white people I’ve seen who listen to rap music and claim to be knowledgeable about it.
And thank you for the reply.
And Wol slips in with the middle finger!
Well played good sir, well played.[/quote]
I’m actually surprised I posted without cursing or mentioning the words “Tits, Boobs, Ass, Anal, Show Your Tits, Vag, or Stick It In Her Pooper”. I even got X to laugh.
I think I’m growing up, Mak. I think I’m growing up.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Off the top of my head I couldn’t name a single track by Kanye and I probably couldn’t pick him out of a line up.
Everyone going on about how he is a great musician or a great producer or whatever has to be on drugs. Nobody will remember him in 20 years. Within his genre he may well be relevent at the moment but the fact that he has to jump on a stage during someone elses acceptance speach just to make a headline shows how truly irrelevent he is on a wider scale.
Ignorance. I am sure I have friends who don’t give a shit about or even know who Alter Bridge is. I happen to think they may be more talented than most groups over the last 5 years or more as far as that genre. It would make as much sense for them to degrade Alter Bridge because they don’t even listen to their music or know they exist.
Some of you are flat out retarded. Yay, you don’t listen to hip hop. Please tell me why this means the genre sucks or that specific musicians that many people love have no talent.
I happen to be a musician and I like Kanye West’s stuff at least enough to note the man isn’t talentless. He has been around long enough to NOT be some one hit wonder, so again, tell me why YOU have the power to tell us what and who is relevant when you don’t even listen to the music?
I never said he was talentless, he is obviously talented at marketing himself and making money. He also obviously makes music that appeals to a large number of people. That doesn’t meant that it is particularly good musically it just means that he knows that certain hooks, riffs, beats and melodies coupled with the right image will sell.
I was in no way denigrating hip hop. There are some fantastically talented people in hip hop.
LOL @ the attempted self-edit
How so? I at no point said anything against hip-hop, I just said that I don’t think that Kanye is particularly memorable for his music and therefore is not likely to be seen as anything special when people look back in 20 years time.
The part about him being relevant “within his genre” but not in popular music as a whole. What does that imply about hip hop as a genre when one of it’s most relevant artists supposedly isn’t relevant in popular music (other than publicity stunts)?
Not at all, I would say the same about any number of guitar bands or dance music acts. He is relevent at the mooment within his genre because he is selling lots of records and doing dickish things. Give it a few years and he will not even be seen as relevent within his genre let alone outside of it.[/quote]
But would you say that about any massive bands? Like a band as big as Kanye West is in hip hop? A band like Black Sabbath? It doesn’t say much to say that you’d describe other artists that way. He is extremely important to the most vital genre in popular music today, and that alone should warrent his being relevant in the future and now. It’s not like hip hop is going away…
And if you don’t find him relevant that’s fine. A lot of Elvis fans didn’t really find rock bands in the 70s to be all that relevant, but they weren’t supposed to.
Which is to say I agree with you that he is relevant in his genre, I just feel like that alone ensures his relevance in popular music. Hip hop’s a big deal, man. I feel that this who argument may have been something of a minor misunderstanding…
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
LOL @ “relevant”. What the hell is that supposed to mean anyway? Does that have something to do with the level of influence or something? Album sales? Best message? This is music, you are either selling records or you’re not.
Relevence is about how you influence other artists and how you dig out a space for yourself in music.
The New York Dolls for instance sold a shit load less records than Kanye has however they have a million times more relevence in terms of their influence on modern music.[/quote]
I’ve misjudged you. The New York Dolls are/were awesome, and I’m surprised to find someone else here is a fan.
And Lanky, if you think importance is limited to selling records, that you don’t know a damn thing about music at all. At all. You seem like one of the smarter posters here too, it’s just surprising you’d have such a shortsighted post.
I don’t watch MTV much anymore so I don’t know the current crop of female singers, but I saw her interviewed on 60 minutes that really got me interested. She is her own boss and tells people over double her age what to do which I found very attractive (I guess similar to what Miley Cyrus is doing). If you look at the music video “Love Story” - she is really pretty. Like a young Mariah Carey in “Vision of Love”, innocent and yet…
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Also, why do you guys care, she’s not going to fuck you.
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Doesn’t that go for almost any female star - actress, singer, model, athlete etc… Nobody should care unless they get to fuck them?
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
I think I’m growing up, Mak. I think I’m growing up.[/quote]
I’m proud of you son.
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Also, why do you guys care, she’s not going to fuck you.
Doesn’t that go for almost any female star - actress, singer, model, athlete etc… Nobody should care unless they get to fuck them?
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Understandable. Most men go crazy over pussy they’ll never have.